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Sofia Gomez

Should I file Schedule C instead of a 1065 for husband/wife LLC? Can I switch filing methods?

I've been looking into possibly changing how my wife and I file taxes for our LLCs. Currently we have two LLCs together (50/50 ownership) and have been filing 1065 partnership returns for years. But I recently came across some advice suggesting that husband/wife LLCs could file Schedule C as a disregarded entity instead. This has me wondering: Would it be better for us to switch to Schedule C? And since we've been filing 1065 forms for several years already, is it even possible to make that change now? Some background that might be relevant - we're in Oregon (not a community property state). We actually moved here from Utah (also not community property) after forming the LLCs. One LLC rents out a condo, so we'd clearly still owe Oregon state tax on that income. The other is an internet business, which might change our state tax situation if we switched filing methods. I'm especially concerned about whether having the rental condo in an LLC that's taxed as a partnership (non-disregarded entity) would mess up the basis step-up when we die. That's a big deal for our estate planning, so I want to make sure I understand all the implications before making any changes. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Are there advantages to Schedule C that I'm missing out on?

StormChaser

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The question of Schedule C vs 1065 for husband/wife LLCs is a common one. Generally speaking, you have options based on how you want the entity treated for tax purposes. If you've been filing as a partnership (Form 1065) for years, you can technically change to a disregarded entity (Schedule C), but you'd need to file Form 8832 to elect to change the classification. This is considered a technical termination of the partnership. The IRS typically allows you to change entity classification once every 60 months. Regarding your specific concerns: For the rental property, having it in an LLC taxed as a partnership can indeed affect the step-up in basis rules. With a partnership, the basis adjustment works differently than with individually owned property or property in a disregarded entity. This could potentially limit the full step-up benefit your heirs would receive. For the state tax implications, changing from a partnership to a disregarded entity would mean the income flows directly to your personal returns, which might change which states have taxing authority, especially for the internet business.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Thanks for the info! Would switching to Schedule C mean less paperwork? We pay our accountant like $800 each year just to prepare the 1065s, and I feel like we're burning money since it's just the two of us. Also, do we need to file anything special with Oregon if we change the tax status?

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StormChaser

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Yes, filing Schedule C instead of Form 1065 typically means less paperwork and potentially lower preparation costs. Instead of a separate partnership return, the business activity would be reported directly on your personal return via Schedule C. Many couples find this simplification worth making the switch. Regarding Oregon requirements, you wouldn't need special filings with the state tax authorities just for changing federal tax classification. However, you should ensure your LLC remains in good standing with the Oregon Secretary of State. The LLC entity itself continues to exist; only its tax treatment changes.

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Ava Williams

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Yara Khalil

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - if you switch from 1065 to Schedule C, you'll need to consider how you handle self-employment taxes. When filing as a partnership, you're reporting your income on Schedule K-1 and then paying self-employment tax on that. With Schedule C, you're directly reporting business income and paying self-employment taxes accordingly. For the rental property LLC, this might not matter much since rental income is generally not subject to self-employment tax anyway. But for your internet business, it could make a difference in how the income is treated for SE tax purposes.

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Keisha Brown

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Wait, so if we switch to Schedule C for our rental property LLC, would we actually save on self-employment taxes? Currently we pay them on the K-1 income even though it's rental income...I think our accountant might be doing something wrong.

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Yara Khalil

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Rental income reported on Schedule C is typically not subject to self-employment tax, regardless of how you structure the entity. If you're currently paying self-employment tax on rental income from a K-1, that does sound incorrect in most cases. Rental activities are generally considered passive income unless you're in the business of real estate or providing substantial services along with the rental. You should definitely have your accountant review this - you may have been overpaying self-employment taxes for years if they're treating straight rental income as self-employment income on your K-1s.

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Has anyone addressed the 50/50 ownership issue? My understanding is that for a husband/wife LLC to be treated as a disregarded entity (filing Schedule C), one spouse typically needs to be considered the 100% owner for tax purposes. Since you're in a non-community property state, I'm not sure you can just file a Schedule C without changing the actual ownership structure first.

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Amina Toure

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Actually that's not quite right. In a non-community property state, a husband and wife can't automatically be treated as a single owner. BUT they do have options: 1. They could change their ownership structure so one spouse owns 100% 2. They could create a qualified joint venture (QJV) where they're both considered sole proprietors and each files their own Schedule C for their portion of the business The QJV option lets them keep the 50/50 ownership but avoid the partnership filing. Each spouse would report 50% of the income/expenses on their own Schedule C.

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Great discussion here! I wanted to add some perspective on the practical side of making this switch. My husband and I went through this exact process last year with our two LLCs (one rental property, one consulting business). The biggest surprise was how much simpler our quarterly estimated tax payments became after switching to Schedule C. With the partnership returns, we had to calculate our share of partnership income and then figure out estimated payments. Now it's much more straightforward since everything flows directly to our personal return. One thing to consider though - if you have any equipment or assets that have been depreciated through the partnership, you'll need to handle the depreciation recapture when you terminate the partnership. Our accountant said this is often overlooked but can create unexpected tax consequences in the year you make the switch. Also, regarding the estate planning concerns you mentioned - we consulted with an estate attorney who confirmed that having the rental property in a disregarded entity does preserve the full step-up in basis for our heirs, which was a major factor in our decision to switch. The QJV option that @16c549f4e269 mentioned is worth exploring if you want to keep things truly 50/50. We ended up going with one spouse as 100% owner to keep things as simple as possible.

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This is really helpful insight, especially about the quarterly estimated payments becoming simpler! I hadn't thought about that aspect. Can you elaborate on the depreciation recapture issue you mentioned? We have some equipment in our internet business LLC that we've been depreciating over the years, and I want to make sure we don't get hit with any surprise tax bills when we make the switch. Also, did you have to get new EINs for the LLCs after changing the tax classification, or do you keep using the same ones?

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Sofia Torres

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@0d3e8f732f14 Great question about the depreciation recapture! When you terminate a partnership (which happens when you switch to disregarded entity status), any depreciated assets get distributed to the partners. This can trigger depreciation recapture - basically you have to "pay back" some of the depreciation deductions you took over the years. The good news is that if you're switching to a disregarded entity where one spouse owns 100%, the assets transfer to that spouse's Schedule C and the depreciation schedule continues. But there can still be some recapture depending on the specific assets and depreciation methods used. Regarding EINs - you actually keep the same EIN for the LLC. The entity itself doesn't change, just its tax classification. However, if you elect disregarded entity status, you might not need to use the EIN for most tax purposes since everything flows to your SSN on the personal return. But you'd still use it for business banking, contracts, etc. Definitely have your accountant run the numbers on any potential recapture before you make the switch. In our case it was minimal, but every situation is different depending on what equipment you have and how long you've been depreciating it.

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Zainab Ahmed

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This is such a timely discussion for me! My spouse and I are in a very similar situation with our husband/wife LLC that we've been filing 1065 returns for. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. One thing I wanted to add based on our research - if you do decide to switch from partnership to disregarded entity status, make sure you understand the timing implications. The election to change classification (Form 8832) needs to be filed within 75 days of the effective date you want the change to take effect. If you miss that window, you might have to wait until the following tax year or request a late election relief from the IRS. Also, regarding the Oregon state tax implications you mentioned - I'd recommend checking with a local tax professional about any potential Oregon-specific consequences. While the federal change is straightforward, some states have their own rules about entity classification changes that might affect your state tax liability. The estate planning benefits you mentioned for the rental property are definitely worth considering. We're leaning toward making the switch ourselves primarily for that step-up in basis preservation, even though it means dealing with the one-time hassle of terminating the partnership.

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This is really great information about the timing requirements! I had no idea about the 75-day window for Form 8832. That's definitely something to plan ahead for rather than rushing into at the last minute. Your point about Oregon-specific rules is spot on too. Even though the federal change might be straightforward, states can have their own quirks when it comes to entity classification changes. I've heard some states don't automatically follow federal elections, so it's worth double-checking to avoid any surprises. The estate planning angle seems to be a major consideration for a lot of people in this thread. It makes sense - preserving that step-up in basis could save significant capital gains taxes down the road, especially for real estate that appreciates over time. Sounds like the one-time hassle of switching might be worth it for the long-term benefits. Thanks for sharing the timing details - that's exactly the kind of practical information that can save someone from making a costly mistake!

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Sean Doyle

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This has been such a comprehensive discussion! I'm in a similar situation with my spouse - we have a husband/wife LLC that we've been filing 1065 returns for, and I've been on the fence about switching to Schedule C. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the key factors to consider are: 1) the simplified paperwork and potentially lower accounting costs, 2) the estate planning benefits (especially that step-up in basis for rental property), and 3) the timing requirements for making the switch. What's really helpful is hearing from people like @0d3e8f732f14 and @9977feaefd10 who actually went through the process. The practical details about quarterly estimated payments becoming simpler and the 75-day window for Form 8832 are exactly what I needed to know. I think I'm convinced that for our situation (also have a rental property), preserving that full step-up in basis is worth the one-time hassle of switching. The potential tax savings for our heirs could be substantial, especially given how much real estate has appreciated over the years we've owned our rental. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been more helpful than hours of reading IRS publications!

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I'm glad this discussion has been so helpful! As someone who's just starting to research this same situation, I appreciate everyone sharing their real experiences. The estate planning angle is something I hadn't even considered - we've been so focused on the immediate paperwork simplification that we missed the bigger picture about step-up in basis. One question I have after reading through all this: for those who made the switch, did you run into any issues with business banking or contracts that still reference the EIN? @585ff4dd4cf0 mentioned keeping the same EIN but using your SSN for tax purposes - I'm wondering if that creates any confusion with banks or vendors who are used to dealing with your LLC as a separate tax entity. Also, has anyone dealt with this switch if you have business credit cards or loans tied to the LLC? I'm wondering if changing the tax classification affects those relationships at all, even though the entity itself remains the same.

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