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Kaitlyn Otto

Can I still set up a stretch IRA for my inherited 401k after SECURE Act?

Hi everyone, I've got a situation with an inherited 401K that I'm transferring to an inherited IRA, and I'm trying to figure out if I can set it up as a stretch IRA. When I say stretch IRA, I'm specifically asking about taking RMDs over my life expectancy rather than the 10-year rule. Here's my situation: 1. The original 401K owner passed away in 2022 (after the SECURE Act went into effect) 2. The 401K owner was 52 when they passed, so hadn't reached RMD age and never took any distributions 3. I'm directly named as a beneficiary on the 401K documents 4. I'm not the spouse of the owner (we're siblings) 5. I'm actually 7 years older than the original owner I've been getting conflicting information about whether I qualify for an exception to the 10-year rule since the SECURE Act changed everything. Does anyone know if I can still set this up as a traditional stretch IRA based on my circumstances? Any advice would be really appreciated!

Axel Far

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You've asked an excellent question about stretch IRAs post-SECURE Act. The landscape definitely changed after 2020, and the 10-year rule became the default for most non-spouse beneficiaries. However, there are exceptions to the 10-year rule that allow certain beneficiaries to still use the stretch IRA option with RMDs based on life expectancy. These exceptions apply to: - Surviving spouses - Disabled or chronically ill individuals - Individuals not more than 10 years younger than the decedent - Minor children of the decedent (but only until they reach majority age) Based on your situation, you would qualify under the third exception since you're actually older than the original 401k owner. This means you should be able to take distributions over your life expectancy rather than being forced into the 10-year rule. When you transfer to the inherited IRA, make sure the financial institution sets it up correctly as a stretch IRA and understands you're an "eligible designated beneficiary" under the SECURE Act.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! Just to double check - even though the 401k owner died after the SECURE Act went into effect, I can still do the stretch option because I fall into that exception category? And do I need to start taking the RMDs right away this year or is there a specific timeframe I need to follow?

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Axel Far

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Yes, absolutely - the SECURE Act created these specific exceptions that still allow the stretch option, and your situation as someone older than the deceased owner places you squarely in one of those exception categories regardless of when they passed away. For the RMD timeframe, you generally need to begin taking distributions by December 31st of the year following the year of death. Since the original owner passed in 2022, you would need to take your first RMD by December 31, 2023. If you haven't done so yet, you should act quickly to avoid potential penalties. The RMD amount will be calculated based on your life expectancy using the IRS Single Life Expectancy Table.

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Ellie Kim

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Fiona Sand

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Fiona Sand

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Finnegan Gunn

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Just a word of caution - many financial institutions don't fully understand the SECURE Act exceptions. When I inherited my brother's IRA (I was 5 years older than him), the bank initially insisted I had to follow the 10-year rule despite qualifying for the stretch provision. I had to provide them with a printed copy of the relevant IRS publications and specifically reference the exception for beneficiaries not more than 10 years younger. Even then, they had to escalate it to their legal department before finally setting up my account correctly. So whatever you do, get everything in writing and be prepared to advocate for yourself if they try to apply the wrong rules.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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That's really good to know. Did you have to provide any specific documentation to prove your age relationship to the original account holder? I'm wondering if I should gather birth certificates or something similar before I go to the financial institution.

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Finnegan Gunn

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I needed to provide both my birth certificate and my brother's death certificate to establish our age difference. I also brought a copy of IRS Publication 590-B which outlines the eligible designated beneficiary exceptions to the 10-year rule and highlighted the relevant sections. Some institutions may also want proof of your relationship to the deceased, so having any documentation that establishes your sibling relationship could be helpful. In my case, I happened to be named in my brother's obituary as his surviving sibling, and that was sufficient along with the birth certificates.

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Miguel Harvey

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Does anyone know if the financial institution you transfer the inherited 401k to matters? I've heard some places handle stretch IRAs better than others since the SECURE Act changes. I'm in a similar situation where I qualify as an eligible designated beneficiary (I'm disabled) but worried about choosing the right place to transfer my late husband's 401k.

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Ashley Simian

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In my experience, the larger financial institutions like Fidelity, Vanguard, and Charles Schwab tend to be more knowledgeable about the SECURE Act provisions and have specific protocols for handling eligible designated beneficiaries. When I transferred my inherited account to Fidelity, they had a specialized team that handled these situations and knew exactly what documentation I needed. I'd avoid smaller local banks that might not deal with these situations regularly enough to be familiar with all the exceptions.

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StarStrider

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my estate attorney. Since you're older than the original 401k owner, you definitely qualify as an "eligible designated beneficiary" under the SECURE Act exception for individuals not more than 10 years younger than the decedent. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure when you do the rollover that it's titled correctly as an "inherited IRA" with both your name and the deceased's name (something like "Kaitlyn Otto as beneficiary of [deceased's name] IRA"). This is crucial for maintaining the tax-deferred status and ensuring you can take the stretch distributions properly. Also, since the original owner passed in 2022, you should have already started taking RMDs by December 31, 2023. If you missed that deadline, you may need to file Form 5329 to request a waiver of the 50% penalty, but the IRS has been more lenient with inherited account penalties during the transition period after the SECURE Act. I'd strongly recommend getting everything documented before you approach the financial institution, because as others have mentioned, many of them are still learning these rules themselves.

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Dmitry Popov

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This is incredibly helpful information about the account titling - I hadn't thought about that detail but it makes perfect sense that it needs to be set up as an inherited IRA with both names. Quick question about the missed RMD deadline: since I'm just now getting this sorted out in 2025, am I looking at penalties for both 2023 and 2024? And is Form 5329 something I can file myself or do I need professional help with that? The documentation point is well taken too. It sounds like I should go in armed with birth certificates, death certificate, IRS publications, and a clear explanation of which exception I fall under. Better to over-prepare than have to go back multiple times!

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