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Sophia Nguyen

Can I really file a Zero dollars tax return? What's the point?

So I just got this weird notification from my tax app saying that even people with zero income can still file a tax return. I was like... what's the point? I messaged their support team about it and they told me to "just enter $1" if the system won't accept zeros. This seems super sketchy to me. Does this actually make sense to anyone? Why would someone file taxes if they literally made NO money all year? And if I did go ahead with this, is there any benefit? Could I somehow get money back even though I didn't earn anything? The whole thing seems confusing, but I'm curious if I'm missing something here. I've been unemployed for most of last year and didn't think I needed to do anything with taxes. Now I'm wondering if I should actually file something. Anyone know what the deal is with these "zero dollar" returns?

Filing a zero-dollar tax return (or $1 as they suggested) actually makes sense in several situations, even if you had no income. First, it creates an official record with the IRS showing you had no taxable income that year. This can be helpful if you ever get audited in the future. Second, you might qualify for certain tax credits that are "refundable" - meaning you can receive them even without owing any taxes. The Earned Income Tax Credit sometimes applies to very low incomes, and there are others depending on your situation. Also, some government assistance programs require proof that you filed taxes, even with zero income. And if you're a dependent on someone else's return, filing your own return can sometimes help both you and them maximize credits. If you were unemployed but received unemployment benefits at any point, those are taxable and you definitely need to file.

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Does this actually affect stimulus checks or those pandemic payments from before? I didn't file last year and now I'm wondering if I missed out on money.

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Yes, this would have affected your eligibility for Economic Impact Payments (stimulus checks) during the pandemic. Those payments were technically advanced tax credits, and many people who didn't normally file taxes needed to file specifically to receive those payments. If you didn't receive stimulus payments you were eligible for, you might still be able to claim them by filing a return for the appropriate year. There's a look-back period where you can file returns for previous years. The Recovery Rebate Credit would be what you're looking for on those returns.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year and discovered taxr.ai https://taxr.ai which really helped me figure out if I should file a zero-income return. It analyzes your specific situation and tells you if there are any credits or benefits you might qualify for, even with no income. For me, it turned out I was eligible for a small refundable credit I had no idea about, and I wouldn't have known to file without checking. What I liked was that it showed me exactly what forms I needed and walked me through the process step by step. The system asks simple questions about your situation (like if you had any unemployment, if you're a student, if you have dependents) and then tells you if filing makes sense for you.

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How accurate is this? I'm always skeptical of tax tools that make big promises. Did it actually help you get money back?

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Does it actually work for zero income scenarios? Most tax software I've tried won't even let me proceed without putting some income in.

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It was definitely accurate for my situation. The analysis it provided matched what I later confirmed with the free filing tool from the IRS. The difference was taxr.ai explained things in plain language and highlighted credits I might qualify for that I wouldn't have known to look for. Yes, it absolutely works for zero income scenarios - that's exactly what I used it for. Unlike regular tax software that gets confused with zero entries, this specifically has pathways for people with no income, and explains which forms you should use and how to properly indicate zero income when filing.

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai - it was surprisingly helpful! I was skeptical since most tax sites just push you to upgrade for no reason, but this one actually analyzed my zero income situation and showed me I could get the American Opportunity Credit because I was a student last year, even though I had no income. I would have completely missed that $1,000! It explained exactly how to file properly with zero income entries too. Definitely worth checking out if you're in this situation.

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Ava Kim

If you're trying to contact the IRS to ask about this, good luck... I spent 3 weeks trying to get through their phone lines before discovering https://claimyr.com which held my place in line. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they wait on hold with the IRS for you and call you when an agent picks up. I had a similar zero income situation and needed to ask specific questions about previous years. After using Claimyr, I got through to an actual IRS agent who explained that I should have been filing returns even with zero income because I qualified for credits I never claimed. They helped me understand how to file for previous years to claim what I'd missed.

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How does this actually work? Seems weird that someone else can wait on hold for you... don't they need your personal info to talk to the IRS?

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Yeah right. No way this actually works. The IRS phone system is basically designed to make you give up. I've literally never gotten through.

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Ava Kim

They don't need any personal info because they're not talking to the IRS on your behalf. The system just navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold, then calls you when a human agent answers. You're the one who talks to the IRS directly - they just eliminate the hold time. I definitely get the skepticism - I felt the same way! But it really does work. The IRS phone system is awful by design, but this service just handles the most frustrating part (waiting sometimes for hours). It's basically like having someone wait in a physical line for you, then texting when they reach the front.

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Alright, I need to eat my words. After seeing the responses here I tried Claimyr just to prove it wouldn't work... and it actually did! Got a call back in about 40 minutes (after previously wasting HOURS trying to reach someone). The IRS agent confirmed I should file even with zero income and explained I might qualify for a savers credit from some retirement contributions my parents made for me. Never would have known this without being able to talk to an actual human. Thanks for recommending this service - totally changed my perspective on dealing with the IRS.

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One important note - if you received ANY form of income like unemployment, social security, disability, etc., those might be taxable and you absolutely need to file even if you think you made "zero dollars." Also, if you had any investment income, interest from a bank account, or sold stocks, those all count too. The tax software's advice to put $1 is just a workaround for their system that probably doesn't accept actual zeros in the income field. It's not technically correct, but it's a known workaround if your actual income was zero.

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Wait, social security is taxable?? I thought that was already taxed money the government gives back to you.

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Social Security can be taxable, but it depends on your total income. If Social Security is your only income, it's usually not taxable. However, if you have other income sources, up to 85% of your benefits might be taxable. The formula is complicated, but generally if your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds, then a portion becomes taxable. For individuals, that threshold starts around $25,000, and for married filing jointly around $32,000.

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Has anyone tried using the free file fillable forms from the IRS for a zero-income return? I don't want to pay for tax software if I'm not getting anything back.

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I did this last year. The free file fillable forms work fine for zero income returns, but they provide zero guidance. You're basically filling out the exact tax forms on your own with no help, so you need to know what you're doing. If you're confident and understand which forms you need, go for it!

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This is really helpful info! I had no idea about refundable credits for people with zero income. Just to clarify though - when you say "enter $1" as a workaround, does that create any problems later? Like, am I technically lying on my tax return if my actual income was $0? I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly and not accidentally committing tax fraud or something. Also, does anyone know if there's a time limit on filing these zero-income returns? Like if I should have filed last year but didn't, can I still go back and file for 2023 to claim any credits I might have missed?

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Great questions! For the $1 workaround - it's definitely not ideal to put incorrect information on your return. If your actual income was $0, you should report $0. The better approach is to use tax software that properly handles zero income entries, or file the forms directly with the IRS where you can enter actual zeros. Regarding time limits - yes, you can generally file returns for previous years! You typically have 3 years from the original due date to file and claim refunds/credits you missed. So for 2023, you'd have until April 2027 to file and claim any refundable credits. The IRS actually encourages people to file these "late" returns if they're owed money. I'd recommend using one of the tools mentioned earlier like taxr.ai to analyze what you might be eligible for, since there could be credits you're not aware of. Much better than guessing with the $1 entry!

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