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Can I contribute to Roth IRA without any earned income this year?

So I just found out something that's totally messing with my plans. Apparently you can only contribute to a Roth IRA if you have earned income for that tax year? Ugh! I'm 22 and in college full-time, and here's my situation. I worked during summers in 2021 and 2022 and made about $7k each year, which was great because I maxed out my Roth IRA both years. But this year (2023) I've been focusing completely on my studies and haven't worked at all. The problem is I already contributed the full $6k to my Roth IRA for 2023 thinking it wouldn't be an issue! Now I'm worried about what happens when I file my taxes since I technically had zero earned income this year. Will I get penalized? Do I need to take that money out? I feel so stupid for not knowing this rule. My parents helped me set up the account but clearly neither of us understood this requirement. Anyone deal with this situation before or know what I should do? I'm stressing because I don't want to get in trouble with the IRS over this mistake!

You're not alone in misunderstanding this rule! The IRS does require that Roth IRA contributions come from "earned income" (basically money you made from working, not investments or gifts). Since you've already contributed without having earned income, you have a few options: You can withdraw the excess contribution (and any earnings on that money) before your tax filing deadline (including extensions). This is called a "return of excess contributions." If you do this, you'll avoid the 6% excess contribution penalty. If you have a part-time job or side gig before the end of the year that generates earned income, that would qualify and you could keep some or all of your contribution depending on how much you earn. You could also have your spouse "share" their earned income with you if you're married filing jointly, but that doesn't sound applicable to your situation. Don't panic - this is a fixable situation and happens more often than you'd think!

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This is actually a common misunderstanding about Roth IRAs! You're right that contributions must come from earned income - which includes wages, salaries, tips, self-employment income, and similar sources. Since you've already contributed without having earned income, you need to address this as an "excess contribution." You have options: You can remove the excess contribution plus any earnings before your tax filing deadline (including extensions). Your IRA provider has a specific process for this called a "return of excess contributions." If you're expecting any earned income before the end of the year, you could keep a portion of your contribution equal to what you earn (up to the $6,000 limit). For married couples filing jointly, a working spouse can make contributions for a non-working spouse, but that doesn't apply in your situation. Don't worry too much - many people make this mistake, and there are established ways to correct it without major consequences!

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Thank you for explaining this! I'm definitely not married so that option is out. How exactly do I do that "return of excess contributions" thing? Do I just tell my brokerage to take the money out or is there a special form? And what happens to any gains that money might have made while it was in there?

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To process a return of excess contributions, contact your brokerage directly - they'll have a specific form or process for this. Tell them you need to remove an excess contribution for the current tax year. They'll calculate any earnings that need to be withdrawn along with your contribution. Those earnings will be taxable income for the year you withdraw them, and if you're under 59½, you might owe a 10% early distribution penalty on just the earnings portion. The original contribution amount comes back to you tax-free since you already paid taxes on that money.

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Thanks for explaining this clearly! I definitely won't have any income this year, so I'll need to take everything out. When you say "before tax filing deadline including extensions" - does that mean I have until April 15, 2024? Or is it too late since I already filed my 2023 taxes?

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You have until your tax filing deadline including extensions, so that would be April 15, 2024, for correcting 2023 contributions. Even though you've already filed your taxes, you still have until that deadline to remove excess contributions without penalty. If you need more time, you can file an extension (Form 4868) which would give you until October 15, 2024, to make the correction. Just contact your IRA provider and tell them you need to process a "return of excess contributions" for 2023. They'll handle the calculation of any earnings that must also be withdrawn.

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One option nobody mentioned - if you can get ANY kind of job before December 31st, even something part-time or gig work, you could earn enough to justify at least part of your contribution. The IRS allows contributions up to the lesser of $6,000 or your total earned income for the year. So if you could make even $3,000 before year end, you'd only need to withdraw the other $3,000 as excess. Might be worth picking up some holiday season work!

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That's actually a really good idea! I could probably pick up some delivery gig work or something at the campus bookstore during finals. Does income have to be W-2 or would 1099 work from like DoorDash or Uber count as earned income too?

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1099 income absolutely counts as earned income for IRA contribution purposes! Self-employment income, gig work, contract work - it all qualifies. So DoorDash, Uber, Instacart or any similar platform would work perfectly. Just keep in mind that with 1099 income, you'll have to pay self-employment tax on those earnings (about 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare). But even with those taxes, having the ability to keep your Roth contribution is usually worth it in the long run because of the tax-free growth potential.

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned - the deadline for fixing excess contributions isn't just the regular tax filing date (April 15th). You actually have until October 15th if you file an extension on your taxes, even if you don't actually need more time to file! This gives you extra months to either earn income or process the removal. I made this mistake a few years ago and the extension saved me from penalties.

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Does filing an extension cost anything? And do you have to actually wait until October to file your taxes or can you file normally but still have until October for the IRA fix?

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Has anyone done the math on whether it's better to just leave the excess contribution in and pay the 6% penalty versus taking it out if the market has gone up significantly? Seems like sometimes the gains might outweigh the penalty, especially if it's a one-time thing.

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This is actually a common misconception. The 6% penalty isn't a one-time fee - it applies EVERY YEAR until you correct the excess contribution. So if you leave $6,000 of excess contributions in your account indefinitely, you'd pay $360 in penalties the first year, another $360 the next year, and so on. The only way the math would work out is if you had extraordinary returns in a single year that exceeded the penalty AND you corrected it before the next tax year. Even then, you'd be breaking IRA rules, which could potentially lead to more serious consequences if you're audited. The IRS designed the penalty specifically to make it economically impractical to leave excess contributions in place.

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This is exactly why I always tell college students to be super careful with retirement accounts! The earned income requirement trips up so many people. One thing that might help for future reference - if you're ever unsure about IRA rules, you can always call your brokerage first before making contributions. Most of them have retirement specialists who can walk you through the requirements. Also, don't beat yourself up too much about this mistake. The fact that you're thinking about retirement savings at 22 puts you way ahead of most people your age! Once you get this sorted out and start working again, you'll be back on track with your Roth IRA contributions. Keep us posted on how it goes with getting the excess contribution removed!

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Thanks for the encouragement! You're absolutely right about calling the brokerage first - I wish I had done that before making the contribution. I'm definitely going to be more careful about understanding the rules before making any financial moves in the future. It's reassuring to hear that this is a common mistake and that I can get it fixed. I'm planning to contact my brokerage this week to start the excess contribution removal process. Really appreciate everyone's advice here - this community has been so helpful in understanding my options!

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Don't stress too much about this - it's actually one of the most common IRA mistakes people make! The good news is that you caught it and there are clear ways to fix it without major penalties. Since you're a full-time student with zero earned income for 2023, you'll need to remove the entire $6,000 contribution plus any earnings it generated. Contact your brokerage ASAP and tell them you need to process a "return of excess contributions" for tax year 2023. They'll handle the calculations and send you the proper tax forms. The original $6,000 comes back to you tax-free since you already paid taxes on it. Any earnings will be taxable income and subject to a 10% early withdrawal penalty, but that's still much better than the 6% annual penalty for leaving excess contributions in place. You have until April 15, 2024 to fix this (or October 15 if you file an extension). Once you graduate and start working, you can get back to maxing out your Roth IRA contributions. The fact that you're already thinking about retirement savings at 22 shows you're on the right track financially!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm relieved to hear that this is such a common mistake - I was feeling pretty foolish about not knowing the earned income requirement. Your explanation about the process is much clearer than what I was finding online. I'm definitely going to call my brokerage tomorrow to start the removal process. Quick question though - when they calculate the "earnings" that need to be withdrawn along with my contribution, is that based on the overall account performance or just the performance of that specific $6,000? My account has had some ups and downs this year so I'm not sure what to expect.

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Don't panic - you've discovered this issue in time to fix it properly! This is honestly one of the most common Roth IRA mistakes, especially for students and young adults. The earned income requirement catches a lot of people off guard. Since you have zero earned income for 2023, you'll need to remove the entire $6,000 contribution as an "excess contribution." Here's what you need to do: Contact your brokerage immediately and request a "return of excess contributions" for tax year 2023. They have a specific process for this and will calculate any earnings that need to be removed along with your original contribution. The $6,000 you contributed will come back to you tax-free (since you already paid taxes on that money), but any earnings on that money will be taxable income for 2023 and subject to a 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½. You have until April 15, 2024 to complete this process without facing the 6% annual excess contribution penalty. If you need more time, you can file a tax extension to get until October 15, 2024. Don't feel stupid about this - the fact that you're prioritizing retirement savings at 22 shows excellent financial awareness! Once you graduate and start working again, you can resume your Roth IRA contributions. This is just a temporary setback, not a permanent problem.

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