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Jibriel Kohn

Can I claim my adult son as a dependent if he made over $5,000 in 2023?

I'm trying to file my taxes myself for the first time and I'm confused about dependent eligibility. My stepson turned 19 in 2023 and earned just over $5,000 during a short period of work last year. He's currently unemployed and lives with us while learning game development (not a traditional student). When I tried using two different tax software programs, I got conflicting results. One let me claim him without asking about his income, while the other asked about his earnings and told me he doesn't qualify since he made over $4,700. I'm assuming the second software is correct, but I have a few questions: 1. If he doesn't file his own taxes, does that change whether I can claim him? 2. For future years, could we contribute to a traditional IRA to get his AGI below $4,700 so I could still claim him as a dependent? It seems ridiculous that $4,700 is the cutoff amount - who can possibly live on that in today's economy? Where does this arbitrary number even come from? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

The second tax software is correct. For a qualifying relative dependent who is not a student, the income limit for 2023 was $4,700. This is the "gross income test" for dependents. This figure is adjusted annually for inflation (it's $5,050 for 2024). If your stepson earned over $5,000, he fails the gross income test regardless of whether he files his own return. His filing status doesn't affect your ability to claim him - it's his actual income that matters. As for your IRA strategy - yes, contributing to a traditional IRA could potentially reduce his AGI below the threshold in future years, allowing you to claim him as a dependent. This is a legitimate tax planning strategy as long as he has earned income to make the IRA contribution. The income threshold seems low because it's designed for genuinely dependent individuals. The IRS assumes that someone earning above this amount can contribute significantly to their own support, even if they're still living at home.

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Does he still need to file his own tax return even if I can't claim him as a dependent? And if I had claimed him incorrectly, would the IRS automatically reject my return or would this trigger an audit?

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If he earned over $5,000, he's required to file his own tax return since that's above the standard deduction threshold for dependents. This is separate from whether you can claim him or not. If you had incorrectly claimed him, the IRS might not immediately reject your return, but it could flag it for review. This wouldn't necessarily trigger a full audit, but you might receive a letter asking for clarification or documentation. The IRS can cross-reference SSNs to verify dependent claims, so it's always better to follow the rules correctly.

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Charlie Yang

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Just an FYI - the $4,700 limit for 2023 is indexed for inflation, which is why it seems so low. It doesn't apply if your dependent is a qualifying child (rather than qualifying relative) or if they're a full-time student under 24. For 2024, that limit is going up to $5,050. Still not much, but at least it's increasing. If your stepson decides to take some classes and becomes a full-time student, then the gross income test wouldn't apply at all.

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Grace Patel

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Wait, so if he enrolled in college classes the income limit wouldn't matter? Even at a community college? My daughter works part-time making about $8k but she's taking 3 classes each semester.

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Charlie Yang

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That's correct! If your daughter is under 24 and a full-time student (generally defined as taking a full course load for at least 5 months of the year), then the gross income test doesn't apply for determining if she's your qualifying child. She would need to meet the other tests: relationship (your daughter, so check), residency (lived with you for more than half the year), age (under 19 or under 24 if full-time student), and support (you provide more than half her support). The number of classes determines full-time status according to the school's definition, so 3 classes might qualify if her school considers that full-time.

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ApolloJackson

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The whole dependent thing is super confusing. Last year I thought I could claim my 22yo son cause he lives at home and I pay for everything, but turbotax said no cause he made like $13k at his part-time job. but then my friend claimed her 20yo daughter who made $15k???

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Your friend is probably claiming her daughter as a qualifying child rather than a qualifying relative. If her daughter is a full-time student under 24, the income limit doesn't apply. The rules are different depending on which type of dependent they are.

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