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Can I claim both home internet expenses AND simplified home office deduction for my business?

Title: Can I claim both home internet expenses AND simplified home office deduction for my business? 1 I stumbled upon this interesting article recently. Apparently, there was a tax court case where the IRS argued that a couple couldn't deduct their home internet expenses because they didn't take the home office deduction. However, the tax court ruled in favor of the couple, allowing them to deduct internet expenses. This ruling seems to suggest that internet expenses are treated differently from the home office deduction, which makes me wonder if I can deduct both. So here's my question: If I'm using the simplified home office deduction ($5 per square foot, up to 300 square feet), can I ALSO deduct the percentage of my home internet bill that I use specifically for my business purposes? Or would the internet costs be considered included in the simplified method? I use my internet about 60% for business purposes (video calls with clients, accessing cloud software, research, etc.) and the rest is personal. My monthly internet bill runs about $85, so it adds up over the year. I'm trying to maximize legitimate deductions while staying compliant.

2 The simplified home office deduction was created to make things easier by bundling typical home office expenses together, but there's some nuance here worth understanding. When you take the simplified deduction ($5 per square foot, up to $1,500), you're giving up the ability to deduct actual expenses related to the home itself - like utilities, rent, mortgage interest, depreciation, etc. that would be allocated based on the percentage of your home used for business. However, business expenses that aren't directly related to the home's operating costs can still be deducted separately. Internet service falls into a gray area that has been subject to interpretation. The safer approach is to consider internet as part of the utilities covered by the simplified method. However, as the tax court case you mentioned suggests, there's an argument that internet is a separate business expense, especially if you can demonstrate it's primarily for business use. If you do decide to deduct internet separately, make sure you keep detailed records showing business vs. personal usage. Also consider consulting with a tax professional who can advise based on your specific situation and the latest IRS guidance.

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7 This is useful info but I'm still confused. In the case I mentioned, did the couple use the simplified or regular home office deduction? Or neither? That might help clarify whether internet can definitely be claimed separately.

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2 Based on what you've described, it sounds like the couple in that case didn't take any home office deduction at all, yet they were still permitted to deduct internet expenses that were used for business purposes. The simplified home office method was specifically designed to bundle typical home-related expenses together for convenience. When using this method, you're trading itemized deductions of actual expenses (like utilities, which would traditionally include internet) for the simplified $5/sq ft calculation. If you want to be conservative in your approach, include internet within the simplified method. If you want to be more aggressive while still having some support for your position, you could separate out the internet as its own business expense with appropriate documentation of business use percentage.

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12 Does it actually analyze tax court cases? That sounds too good to be true. How accurate is it compared to what an actual CPA would tell you?

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15 I'm skeptical. How does the tool determine what percentage of internet is for business use? That seems really subjective.

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9 It actually does analyze tax court cases! You can upload PDFs or even just paste the case details, and it finds the relevant parts and explains how they apply to your situation. It's not just regurgitating information - it's connecting the dots between precedents and your specific scenario. As for accuracy, I cross-checked its recommendations with my CPA, and she was impressed with how thorough and up-to-date the guidance was. Of course, a CPA brings additional personalized advice, but for straightforward questions like this one, it's remarkably reliable. The tool doesn't magically determine your business percentage - you still need to track that yourself. It provides guidelines on acceptable methods for tracking (time logs, data usage reports, etc.) and helps you document your methodology in case of an audit. It's about creating defensible documentation, not making up numbers.

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13 Here's my experience: I've been deducting 70% of my internet as a separate business expense while using the simplified home office deduction for the past 3 tax years. Never had an issue with the IRS questioning it. The key is documentation. I keep a log of how my internet is used, including: - Business video conferencing hours - Data usage for business uploads/downloads - Time spent on business research My CPA said this is a reasonable approach since internet is more of a "business tool" than a home utility in my case (I'm a graphic designer who transfers large files daily).

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7 Do you think this would work for other utilities too? Like could I deduct my cell phone separately if I use it for business calls?

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13 Yes, the same principle applies to cell phones. If you use your personal cell phone for business, you can deduct the business percentage of use as a separate expense, even while taking the simplified home office deduction. The IRS views communication tools (phones, internet) somewhat differently than general home utilities (electricity, heat, water). Just make sure you have a reasonable method for tracking business vs. personal use. Some people keep logs of business calls or have separate business apps that they can show consume a certain percentage of data. As with internet, the key is documentation and reasonableness. Don't claim 90% business use if you're only making occasional business calls. But if your phone is a primary business tool, documenting 50-70% business use with good records is typically acceptable.

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23 Anyone else feeling like the tax code is deliberately confusing? Like they WANT us to make mistakes so they can fine us? 🙄

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4 It's actually because of lobbying by tax preparation companies. They've spent millions lobbying against simplified tax filing so they can keep selling their services. Look up "Free File Alliance controversy" - it's pretty eye-opening.

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Nia Thompson

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Based on my experience as a small business owner who's dealt with this exact question, I can confirm that you CAN deduct internet expenses separately from the simplified home office deduction, but you need to be smart about it. The key distinction is that the simplified method ($5/sq ft) is meant to replace the home-related overhead expenses like utilities that power the physical space. Internet service, however, is more of a business tool - especially when you're using it primarily for business activities like client calls, cloud software, and research. I've been doing this for 2 years now with no issues. Here's my approach: - I track my business vs personal internet usage monthly (roughly 65% business in my case) - I keep detailed logs of business activities that require internet - I treat it as a separate line item on Schedule C under "Other Business Expenses" The tax court case you mentioned is spot-on - it established that internet can be treated as a distinct business expense. Just make sure your business percentage is reasonable and well-documented. With your 60% business use and $85/month bill, you'd be looking at about $612 annually in deductions, which is definitely worth the effort to track properly. Pro tip: Set up a simple spreadsheet to log your business internet activities monthly. Makes tax time much easier and gives you solid documentation if questioned.

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Liv Park

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! Thank you for sharing your real-world experience. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to set that up to track my business internet activities monthly. Quick question: when you say you log "business activities that require internet," do you track specific hours/time, or do you focus more on the type of activities? I'm wondering if I should be timing my video calls and research sessions, or if a more general approach (like "3 client calls, 2 hours research, cloud backup") would be sufficient documentation. Also, have you ever had any pushback from your CPA or tax preparer about taking both deductions? I want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for problems down the road.

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