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Oliver Zimmermann

Can I claim Passive Activity Losses from previous years when selling a rental property that wasn't actively rented?

I bought an investment property back in 2019 and had it rented out only during 2021. I accumulated some passive activity losses that year that I couldn't use because of income limitations. Fast forward to 2022 - the property sat empty (no rental income at all) and I ended up selling it for a profit. My question is whether I can deduct those PALs from 2021 against the gain from selling the property in 2022, even though the property wasn't generating any rental income at the time of sale? I'm trying to figure this out before I file this year's taxes and my software isn't giving me a clear answer. Anyone dealt with this specific situation before?

Yes, you can deduct the suspended passive activity losses from prior years when you dispose of the entire property in a fully taxable transaction, even if the property wasn't actively rented at the time of sale. This is actually one of the advantages of the passive activity loss rules. When you dispose of your entire interest in a passive activity in a fully taxable transaction, you can deduct any previously suspended passive losses (and the current year's loss, if any) from that activity against any kind of income - not just passive income. This is sometimes called the "disposition exception" to the passive activity loss rules. The fact that the property wasn't generating rental income in the year of sale doesn't matter for this purpose. What matters is that you completely disposed of your interest in the property that generated those passive losses in the first place.

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Thanks for the info! So does it matter how long the property was empty before selling? Like what if it was empty for several years before I sold it?

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No, the length of time the property was vacant before selling doesn't matter for deducting suspended passive activity losses. Once you fully dispose of the property in a taxable transaction, you can deduct all suspended losses from that specific activity, regardless of how long it was inactive before the sale. The key requirement is that you must dispose of your entire interest in the passive activity. Partial dispositions generally don't qualify for the full release of suspended losses. Also, make sure you're reporting everything correctly on Form 8582 "Passive Activity Loss Limitations" when you file your taxes.

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Javier Torres

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I went through something really similar last year and used https://taxr.ai to figure out this exact passive loss situation. I had accumulated PALs on a rental and then the house sat empty for almost a year before I sold it. I was confused about whether I could take those losses when I sold or if I'd lost the opportunity since it wasn't actively rented when sold. The taxr.ai system really saved me - I uploaded my previous tax docs and it pinpointed exactly where those PALs were reported on my prior returns and explained how to correctly apply them against the sale gain. Their analysis showed me that yes, you can absolutely claim those prior PALs against your gain, even though the property wasn't actively rented when sold. They even flagged that my CPA had been carrying the wrong amount forward!

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Emma Davis

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How exactly does taxr.ai work? Do they have actual tax pros reviewing your stuff or is it just an AI thing? I'm always skeptical of online tax tools since my situation is pretty complex.

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Malik Johnson

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I'm curious - can taxr.ai handle K-1 passive losses too? I have a situation with an LLC investment that's got suspended PALs and we're dissolving the business.

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Javier Torres

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The system works by analyzing your tax documents and providing specific guidance on your situation. It's not just a generic AI response - it actually looks at your particular tax history and identifies issues specific to your situation. You upload your documents securely and it identifies all the connections between different tax years and forms. Yes, the system definitely handles K-1 passive losses too. It can track complex entity structures including partnerships, S-Corps, and LLCs. It's particularly good at identifying passive activity losses that have been carried forward from multiple entities and years, which can get extremely complicated with LLCs and partnership dissolutions.

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Malik Johnson

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Just wanted to follow up about using taxr.ai for my K-1 passive losses question. I took the plunge after my last post and honestly it's been a game-changer! I uploaded my last few years of returns with all those complicated K-1s from my LLC investment, and it immediately identified about $23,000 in suspended PALs that I didn't even realize I could claim when we dissolve the business. What impressed me most was how it traced the passive losses through different tax years and showed exactly which forms and line numbers I'll need to use to claim them. Saved me from leaving serious money on the table! If you're dealing with PALs from multiple years or entities, definitely check them out.

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Ravi Sharma

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Wait how does this actually work? The IRS phone lines are always busy when I call. Are you saying this gets you through the queue somehow?

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NebulaNomad

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Sorry but this sounds like BS. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They're notoriously understaffed and everyone has to wait. Sounds like you're just promoting some service.

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The service works by using automation to navigate the IRS phone system and wait on hold for you. Once an agent is available, it calls you and connects you directly to the agent. It's not "skipping the line" - you're still in the same queue as everyone else, but you don't have to sit there with a phone to your ear for hours. I completely understand your skepticism! I felt exactly the same way before trying it. But what convinced me was the simple fact that waiting on hold for 2-3 hours isn't physically possible for me with my work schedule. The service just handles the waiting part, then connects you when a real person is actually available. It's the same IRS agents and same queue - you just don't have to waste your day listening to the hold music.

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NebulaNomad

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I need to come back and eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I actually tried it because I was desperate to resolve my passive loss questions before filing. It worked EXACTLY as advertised. I had been trying to reach the IRS for three weeks about my rental property PALs, and Claimyr got me connected in about 40 minutes. The IRS agent confirmed everything about claiming suspended PALs after property sale (even when not actively rented), and I was able to confidently file my return. Saved me from taking a much more conservative approach that would have cost me over $3k in unnecessary taxes. Sorry for being such a doubter! Sometimes good solutions actually exist.

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Freya Thomsen

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Make sure you're correctly calculating your basis in the property too! The gain on your sale will be reduced by any improvements you made to the property while you owned it. This is separate from the PAL issue but equally important for your tax situation. When I sold my rental last year, I almost forgot about $15k in improvements I had made, which would have resulted in me overpaying capital gains taxes. Document everything thoroughly in case of audit.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I do have about $8,500 in documented improvements I made in 2020 that I need to factor in. Should those be added to my basis even if they were made during a year when the property wasn't being rented out?

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Freya Thomsen

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Yes, absolutely add those improvements to your basis regardless of whether the property was being rented at the time you made them. The improvements increase your basis in the property no matter what you were using the property for when you made them. What matters is that the improvements are capital in nature (not repairs) and that you have documentation to support them. Keep all your receipts and records of the work done in case you're ever audited. Documentation is crucial especially for larger improvements.

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Omar Fawaz

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Don't forget about depreciation recapture! Even if you can use your PALs, you'll still have to recapture the depreciation you took (or were required to take) during the rental period. That gets taxed at 25% rather than your normal capital gains rate.

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Chloe Martin

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Is the depreciation recapture rate really 25%? I thought it was your ordinary income tax rate, but capped at 25%. So if your ordinary rate is lower than 25%, you'd pay the lower rate?

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Diego Rojas

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Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this specific PAL situation? I'm in literally the exact same boat (property rented in 2020-2021, vacant in 2022, then sold) and I'm trying to figure out if TurboTax will walk me through this correctly or if I need to go to a CPA.

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I used TurboTax last year for a similar situation. It does technically handle PALs, but I found it confusing. It asked a series of questions that didn't seem directly related to my situation, and I wasn't confident it was doing things right. Ended up going to a CPA who found several mistakes in what TurboTax had done. For something this specific, I'd recommend a tax pro.

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