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Zara Shah

Best way to handle Consulting fee payments through my existing Personal Service Corporation (PSC)?

I juggle two different careers - I work as a TV/film producer and also do consulting in the commodities and structured finance space. Currently, I have a loan out personal services corporation (a C corp) that I use for my producing work. Basically when I'm on a production, the corporation lends my services to the production company, and then I get paid through the corporation. Now I'm about to receive a consulting fee for arranging some project financing (totally separate from my entertainment work). The payment structure is going to be around $135K upfront, and then starting a few months later, I'll get monthly payments spread across 2 years. I'm trying to figure out the smartest way to receive these consulting payments. Can I just run them through my existing PSC's bank account since consultants also qualify for Personal Service Corporations? Or would it be better to create a completely new entity just for my consulting business? Would really appreciate any suggestions or guidance on the best approach here! Thanks!

Luca Bianchi

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You can absolutely run your consulting income through your existing Personal Service Corporation. Since both producing and consulting qualify as personal services under IRS rules for PSCs, there's no need to create a separate entity unless there are other business reasons to do so. The key thing to remember is that Personal Service Corporations are subject to a flat 21% corporate tax rate (after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act), which might be lower than your personal rate depending on your situation. However, PSCs can't retain earnings indefinitely to avoid personal income taxes - the IRS expects reasonable compensation to be paid to the service provider (you). You'll want to consider how to structure your compensation from the corporation - salary, bonuses, and possibly dividends. This timing can be strategically planned with your tax professional based on your overall income situation.

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Zara Shah

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Thanks for your help! You mentioned I can't retain earnings indefinitely - is there a specific formula or percentage the IRS expects me to take as salary vs. leave in the corporation? I'm trying to understand if I need to pay myself all the consulting money as it comes in, or if I can leave some in the PSC for business expenses and future slow periods.

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Luca Bianchi

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There's no specific formula, but the IRS expects "reasonable compensation" for the services you provide. This typically means a salary comparable to what someone in your position would earn in the market. For a PSC, it's generally advisable to distribute a substantial portion as salary. You can certainly retain some earnings in the corporation for business expenses, equipment, and to smooth out income during slower periods. Just be aware that PSCs face additional scrutiny if they appear to be retaining excessive profits primarily for tax advantages. A good approach is to work with your accountant to document clear business purposes for retained earnings.

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Yuki Nakamura

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One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - you might want to look at having your PSC elect S corporation status rather than C corporation. With a C corp PSC, you're subject to that flat 21% corporate rate plus personal taxes on distributions (potential double taxation). An S corp PSC still gives you some potential employment tax savings, but income passes through to your personal return so you avoid the double taxation issue. Plus you have more flexibility with loss pass-through if either line of business has a down year.

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Zara Shah

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That's interesting - I hadn't considered switching to an S corp. Would I lose any benefits by making that change? And would it affect how I handle the two different income streams?

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Yuki Nakamura

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You wouldn't lose the liability protection benefits, but you would lose the ability to retain earnings at the corporate level at the 21% rate. All income would flow through to your personal return regardless of whether you take it out of the business. For handling the two income streams, there's no difference - both producing and consulting still qualify as personal services. You'd still want to maintain clear records separating the different business activities, but the S corp can absolutely handle both streams. The main benefit is avoiding potential double taxation, especially if you need to take most of the income out as compensation anyway.

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StarSurfer

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Has anyone addressed how to handle the 24 monthly payments part? I'm in a similar situation with my PSC and trying to figure out if there are timing benefits to how these future payments get recognized as income.

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Carmen Reyes

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There's actually an opportunity there depending on your overall income situation. With a C corp PSC, you could potentially recognize those monthly payments as corporate income when received, then time your salary distributions strategically based on your personal tax situation each year. Gives you more flexibility than if you were receiving those payments directly as an individual.

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Zara Shah

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That's a great point I hadn't thought about. I'm definitely interested in knowing if there are smart ways to handle the timing of those monthly payments to optimize my tax situation.

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