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Fatima Al-Farsi

As a sole director of my company with 0 employees, how do I pay myself?

So I've recently set up my own company and I'm the only director with absolutely no employees. I'm trying to figure out the most tax-efficient way to get money out of the business and into my own pocket. From what I understand, I basically have two options: 1) Put myself on the payroll as an employee of the company and pay myself a regular salary OR 2) Take money out as dividends periodically What I'm really confused about is - if I don't become an employee, am I literally just stuck waiting for dividend payments once or twice a year? Are there any other legitimate ways to extract money from my business without being on the payroll? I'm trying to understand all my options before making any decisions that might affect my tax situation. Any advice from people who've been in this position would be super helpful!

Dylan Cooper

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You actually have several options for taking money out of your business, and most successful small business owners use a combination approach for tax efficiency. Option 1: Salary - You can pay yourself a reasonable salary as an employee-director. This creates earned income which allows you to contribute to retirement accounts and build Social Security credits. Most accountants recommend at least a modest salary to avoid IRS scrutiny. Option 2: Dividends - These are taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income (currently 0-20% depending on your tax bracket vs. up to 37% for income tax). However, dividends aren't subject to FICA taxes, which is an advantage. Option 3: Loan repayments - If you loaned money to your business initially, you can repay yourself with interest. This isn't taxable as it's simply returning your capital. Option 4: Reimbursements - Legitimate business expenses paid out of pocket can be reimbursed tax-free with proper documentation. The most tax-efficient approach usually involves a combination of modest salary and dividends.

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Sofia Perez

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Thanks for this breakdown! I'm wondering about the salary part - is there a minimum amount I should pay myself to keep the IRS happy? I've heard some people say just enough to cover Social Security, but I'm not sure what that means exactly.

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Dylan Cooper

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The "reasonable salary" standard is somewhat subjective, but the IRS looks at what similar businesses pay for comparable services. For a one-person company, I typically suggest enough salary to maximize your Social Security contribution but minimize Medicare tax - around $45,000-60,000 depending on your industry and profit levels. For Social Security purposes, you need 40 credits (10 years) of work to qualify for benefits, and your benefit amount is based on your highest 35 years of earnings. So maintaining some salary is important for your long-term retirement planning.

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Yara Abboud

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - you should really look into the QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction when making this decision. It lets you deduct up to 20% of your business income in certain situations, but salary payments to yourself DON'T count toward this deduction. This is why a lot of small business owners do a smaller salary and larger distributions - to maximize the QBI deduction. But there are phase-outs based on income levels and business type.

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PixelPioneer

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Can you explain more about these phase-outs? I've heard about QBI but my accountant said I probably can't use it because of my income level (around $225k).

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Yara Abboud

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The phase-outs start at $170,050 for single filers and $340,100 for joint filers (for 2022 tax year, slightly higher for 2023). Above those thresholds, the deduction starts to phase out for specified service businesses (legal, health, consulting, financial services, etc.). For non-service businesses, instead of phasing out completely, the deduction becomes limited based on W-2 wages paid and qualified property. This is where it gets tricky - sometimes paying yourself MORE in W-2 wages actually increases your QBI deduction if you're over the threshold. That's why personalized analysis is so important.

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Has anyone here dealt with health insurance as a sole director/owner? I'm setting up a company and wondering if I should put myself on payroll JUST to get the health insurance deduction, since I think it has to run through the payroll system to be fully deductible?

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Paolo Rizzo

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If you have an S-Corp, health insurance premiums paid for a >2% shareholder (which you would be) must be reported as income on your W-2, but then you get to deduct them on your personal return. It's a wash tax-wise, but requires the proper paperwork. For an LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship, you can take the self-employed health insurance deduction directly on your personal return without running it through payroll.

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