As a seller, do I need to file taxes for PayPal transactions over $600 but under $12,000?
I'm 23 and have a chronic health condition that makes traditional employment difficult. I've started selling handmade jewelry on Etsy in the past few months and have made about $3,500 so far through PayPal. Nowhere near the $12,000 threshold where I thought taxes kick in. PayPal just sent me this notice saying they're required to report any payments over $600 to the IRS, and I'm completely confused. I've never filed taxes before because I've never earned enough to be required to. Do I actually need to file and report these PayPal earnings even though I'm way under $12,000? Or do I only need to report if I'm already filing for other reasons? I don't want to get in trouble with the IRS, but I also don't want to go through the hassle of filing if I don't have to. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Jackie Martinez
The short answer is yes, you likely need to file a tax return even if you're making under $12,000. The $600 threshold is about PayPal's reporting requirements to the IRS (they'll send you a 1099-K), while the $12,000 you're thinking of is probably the standard deduction ($12,950 for single filers in 2022). When you're self-employed (which is what selling jewelry on Etsy makes you), you're required to file a tax return if your net earnings from self-employment are $400 or more. This is because you need to pay self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare taxes) even if you don't owe income tax. You'll need to fill out Schedule C to report your business income and expenses, and Schedule SE to calculate your self-employment tax. Make sure to track all your business expenses - materials, shipping, fees, etc. - as these can be deducted to reduce your taxable income.
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Lia Quinn
•So does this mean that even though PayPal only reports if you make over $600, you actually need to report if you make over $400? And what exactly counts as a business expense? Like if I buy stuff to make the jewelry, is that deductible?
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Jackie Martinez
•Yes, that's correct. PayPal's $600 reporting threshold is separate from your filing requirement. If you have net self-employment income of $400 or more, you need to file regardless of whether you receive a 1099-K. For business expenses, you can deduct the cost of materials used to make your jewelry (beads, wire, clasps, etc.), packaging materials, shipping costs, Etsy fees, PayPal fees, a portion of your internet if you're selling online, and even a home office deduction if you have a dedicated space for your business. Just make sure to keep good records and receipts for everything.
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Haley Stokes
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Serene Snow
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Haley Stokes
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Serene Snow
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Romeo Barrett
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Marina Hendrix
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Justin Trejo
Quick note that might help - make sure you're tracking ALL your business expenses carefully. I'm a small seller too, and I use a spreadsheet to track: - Cost of materials - Shipping supplies - Platform fees (Etsy, eBay, etc) - PayPal fees - Portion of internet/phone used for business - Home office space (if you have dedicated space) - Mileage when you go buy supplies You'd be surprised how quickly these add up and can reduce your taxable income. I learned this the hard way my first year and paid way more than I needed to!
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Monique Byrd
•Do you need receipts for absolutely everything? I haven't been great about keeping track so far. Also, how do you calculate the portion of internet/phone to deduct?
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Justin Trejo
•Yes, you should keep receipts for everything - the IRS can ask for documentation if you're ever audited. But if you've lost some, bank/credit card statements can sometimes work as backup. For internet/phone, you need to determine what percentage is used for business. For example, if you estimate 30% of your phone use is for business communications with customers, you can deduct 30% of your phone bill. Just be honest and reasonable with your estimates. Some people keep a log for a few weeks to establish a usage pattern. Same concept applies to your home office - you calculate what percentage of your home's square footage is used exclusively for business, then deduct that percentage of rent/mortgage, utilities, etc.
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Alana Willis
I see a lot of comments about filing, but nobody mentioned the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A). If your net income from your business is under certain thresholds, you might qualify for a deduction of up to 20% of your business income! This is separate from your regular business expense deductions. Also, consider making estimated quarterly tax payments if you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes. This helps avoid an underpayment penalty when you file your annual return.
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Tyler Murphy
•Omg this tax stuff is so complicated. Im making bracelets and selling them on etsy too and i had no idea about any of this!!! How do you even make quarterly payments? And what's this 199A thing?
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