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Fiona Sand

Are gift stocks considered long or short term capital gains when I sell them?

Hey all, I'm in a bit of a predicament with some stocks my grandmother gifted me last year. I'm planning to sell them soon but I'm confused about how the capital gains will be taxed. Do gift stocks count as long-term or short-term capital gains when I sell them? Does the holding period start when I received them, or does it somehow carry over from when my grandmother purchased them years ago? I've tried looking this up but keep getting conflicting information. I'd really appreciate any clarity on this since it could make a significant difference in how much tax I'll need to pay. Thanks in advance!

When you sell gifted stocks, the holding period actually carries over from the original owner. So if your grandmother held those stocks for more than a year before gifting them to you, and you sell them, they would typically qualify for long-term capital gains treatment - even if you've only owned them for a short time yourself. The cost basis is also important here. You generally inherit the donor's cost basis (what your grandmother paid for them), unless the stocks were worth less when you received them than when she bought them (in which case there are special rules for calculating losses). For example, if your grandmother bought the stocks for $2,000 five years ago, gifted them to you when they were worth $5,000, and you sell them for $6,000, you'd pay long-term capital gains tax on the $4,000 profit ($6,000 - $2,000).

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Thanks for that explanation. I'm in a similar situation but I'm confused about something - what if I hold the gifted stocks for another year myself before selling? Does that change anything tax-wise? Also, do I need any documentation from the person who gifted me the stocks?

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If you already have stocks that qualify for long-term capital gains treatment based on the original owner's holding period, holding them longer yourself doesn't change anything tax-wise - they're already considered long-term. Documentation is definitely helpful. Ideally, you should have information about when your gifter purchased the stocks and at what price. This establishes both the holding period and cost basis. If possible, ask for purchase confirmations or statements. If you can't get the exact purchase price, you might need to work with a tax professional to make a reasonable estimate based on historical prices.

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Finnegan Gunn

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I went through something similar last year with inherited stocks from my uncle. I was so confused trying to figure out the cost basis and holding periods that I was about to just guess on my taxes. Then I found https://taxr.ai and it literally saved me hours of headache. You can upload the gift documentation and your statements, and it breaks down exactly how to report it on your taxes, including the holding period classification. The best part was it showed me which date to use for determining if it was long or short term.

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Miguel Harvey

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Does this tool work for other types of inherited assets too? Like if I inherited real estate from my parents, would it help figure out the stepped-up basis and all that?

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Ashley Simian

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I'm skeptical about these online tax tools. How accurate is it really with complicated situations? Did you double-check the results with an accountant or anything?

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Finnegan Gunn

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Yes, it actually does work for inherited real estate too! The tool has specific sections for different types of inherited assets. For real estate, you can input the fair market value at the time of inheritance, and it helps calculate the stepped-up basis correctly. Regarding accuracy - I completely understand the skepticism. Initially, I was hesitant too. What convinced me was that it specifically references IRS publications and shows you exactly which tax rules apply to your situation. I did have my regular accountant review the results, and he was impressed with how detailed and accurate the calculations were, especially for the trickier scenarios like partial year holdings.

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Ashley Simian

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I have to admit I was wrong about https://taxr.ai - I decided to give it a try with my gifted stock situation (similar to the original poster). My grandfather had given me some tech stocks back in 2019, and I was completely lost on how to calculate everything. The tool actually walked me through determining my grandfather's original purchase dates and costs, which I was able to get from statements he had kept. Then it helped me figure out that even though I only held the stocks for 6 months before selling, they still qualified as long-term capital gains because my grandfather had owned them for years. Saved me thousands in taxes! Much better than the generic advice I was getting elsewhere.

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Oliver Cheng

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If you're having trouble getting documentation about when the stocks were purchased or their original value, I'd recommend trying to contact the IRS directly. Their records might have the information you need from previous tax filings. I spent WEEKS trying to get through to someone at the IRS about a similar gifted stock issue. I finally used https://claimyr.com to get a callback from the IRS instead of waiting on hold forever. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they wait on hold for you and call when an agent is available. I was shocked when I actually got through to a real person who helped me track down the original purchase information from my grandmother's estate.

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Taylor To

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Wait, how does this service actually work? Does it literally just wait on hold for you? I've been trying to reach the IRS about a similar issue for days.

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Ella Cofer

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS actually has records of stock purchases from decades ago that they can just look up for you? I doubt they'd be that helpful even if you did get through to them.

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Oliver Cheng

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It's pretty simple - you provide your phone number and what IRS department you need to reach, and they use their system to wait in the phone queue. When an actual IRS agent picks up, the service calls your phone and connects you directly to the agent. No more listening to that horrible hold music for hours! The IRS does have access to certain records, but you're right that they don't always have everything, especially for very old transactions. In my case, they were able to access my grandmother's Schedule D from previous years which showed when she bought the stocks and for how much. It can vary depending on how the stocks were reported on past tax returns. Even when they don't have the exact records, the agents can advise you on how to proceed with limited information or what alternative documentation might be acceptable.

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Ella Cofer

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I stand corrected on Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it for my own inherited stock situation. I needed historical basis information for stocks my father had purchased in the 1990s before gifting them to me in 2021. I used the service late yesterday afternoon, got a callback within an hour with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent was able to access some of my father's old returns and found the purchase dates for most of the stocks! For the few they couldn't find, they gave me specific instructions on how to establish a reasonable estimate based on available information. I was honestly shocked at how helpful they were once I actually got through. Going to finally be able to file my taxes accurately now.

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Kevin Bell

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Something everyone seems to be missing - there's actually a special gift tax form (Form 709) that the GIVER needs to file if the gift exceeds annual exclusion amount ($17,000 for 2023). This doesn't affect the recipient's capital gains treatment, but it's worth mentioning to your grandmother if the stocks were valuable. The giver needs to report gifts even though they probably won't owe any tax because of the lifetime exemption.

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Does this Form 709 matter to the person receiving the gift stocks though? Like do I need a copy of it for my own taxes when I sell the stocks? My aunt gave me some Disney shares last year worth around $20k.

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Kevin Bell

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No, you don't need a copy of Form 709 for your own tax filing when you sell the stocks. The form is strictly the responsibility of the person who gave the gift, not the recipient. In your case with the Disney shares worth around $20k, your aunt would have been responsible for filing Form 709 since the amount exceeded the annual gift tax exclusion. But that's completely separate from your eventual capital gains tax obligations when you sell. When you do sell, you'll just need to know the original purchase date and price your aunt paid to determine if it's long or short-term gains and calculate your tax liability correctly.

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Felix Grigori

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I just went through this exact situation! I found that the brokerage where the stocks are held often has the original purchase date info even after the shares were transferred to you as a gift. Call their customer service dept - they were super helpful in my case and emailed me all the original transaction details from my dad's account. Way easier than I expected.

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Felicity Bud

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Really? My broker (Fidelity) told me they couldn't access any info from the original owner's account due to privacy concerns. Maybe it depends on which brokerage you use?

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Cedric Chung

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@Felicity Bud You might need to specifically mention that you re'the recipient of a gifted stock transfer. When I called, I had to provide the transfer confirmation number and explain that I needed the original purchase information for tax purposes. They initially said they couldn t'help, but when I mentioned it was for calculating cost basis on inherited/gifted securities, they transferred me to a specialized department that handles these requests. Each brokerage probably has different procedures, but it s'worth asking to speak with their tax support team specifically.

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@Felicity Bud I had a similar experience with Fidelity initially, but I found that if you have the original account holder the (gift giver call) them directly and authorize the release of that specific transaction information to you, they ll'usually provide it. My mom had to call and give verbal authorization, then they were able to share the purchase dates and costs with me. Worth trying if you can get your gift giver to make that call!

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Eli Wang

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my uncle gifted me some Apple stock he'd held for about 8 years. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like I'd qualify for long-term capital gains treatment even if I sell immediately, which is a huge relief since short-term rates would be brutal. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - if you're missing the original purchase documentation, some brokerages will actually provide a "gift basis statement" that shows the cost basis information when stocks are transferred as a gift. I got one from Schwab and it had all the details I needed including the original purchase date and price. Definitely worth asking your brokerage about this specific document if you're having trouble tracking down the information from the original owner. Also, make sure to keep any gift documentation (like transfer confirmations) for your records since the IRS may want to see proof that these were actually gifted shares and not purchased by you directly.

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This is really helpful information about the gift basis statement! I had no idea that was even a thing. I've been struggling to get documentation for some Microsoft shares my dad gave me last year, and my broker (TD Ameritrade) kept giving me the runaround. I'm definitely going to call them tomorrow and specifically ask about getting a "gift basis statement" - that sounds like exactly what I need. Thanks for sharing that tip! It's frustrating how these brokerages don't always volunteer the most helpful options upfront.

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Lauren Zeb

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Great thread everyone! I'm a tax professional and wanted to clarify a few key points that might help others in similar situations: 1. **Holding Period**: As Mohammad correctly mentioned, you inherit the donor's holding period. If your grandmother held the stocks for more than a year, you get long-term treatment regardless of how long you've owned them. 2. **Cost Basis**: You generally take the donor's original cost basis (carryover basis), NOT the fair market value when you received the gift. This is different from inherited assets where you get a "stepped-up basis." 3. **Documentation**: The most important documents you need are: - Proof of the gift transfer (brokerage statements) - Original purchase information (date and price the donor paid) - Fair market value on the gift date (important for certain loss calculations) 4. **Special Loss Rule**: If the stock's value when gifted was LESS than what the donor originally paid, there are special dual-basis rules for calculating losses that can get complicated. One thing I'd add to the great suggestions here - if you're still missing documentation, the IRS allows reasonable estimates based on historical stock prices for the relevant dates, as long as you can document your methodology. But always try to get the actual records first through the methods others have mentioned (brokerages, IRS records, etc.).

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Thank you so much for the professional clarification, Lauren! This is exactly the kind of expert insight I was hoping to find. I'm particularly interested in your point about the special loss rule - could you elaborate on what those "dual-basis rules" mean in practice? For example, if my grandmother bought stocks for $5,000 but they were only worth $3,000 when she gifted them to me, and I later sell them for $2,500, how would that loss be calculated? Is it based on her original $5,000 cost or the $3,000 value when I received them? This scenario is actually pretty close to my situation with some energy stocks she gave me, and I want to make sure I understand the implications before I sell.

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