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Zainab Ahmed

Are Allocated Tips (box 8) double-counted if included in Wages (box 1) on W-2?

So I'm pretty confused about my W-2 from the restaurant I work at. When I was comparing my final paystub to my W-2, I noticed something weird. It looks like my employer added my Allocated Tips and my Regular Pay together, and that total is what shows up in Box 1 (Wages) on my W-2. But then they ALSO put those same Allocated Tips in Box 8 (Allocated Tips). Isn't this counting the tips twice? From everything I've read online, Allocated Tips shouldn't be added to the wages in Box 1. I went back and checked my W-2 from 2023, and the same thing happened last year too. Am I missing something here? Is my employer doing this wrong or am I just misunderstanding how these boxes are supposed to work? Has anyone else had this issue with their W-2s from restaurant jobs?

Connor Byrne

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You're absolutely right to question this. Allocated tips should NOT be included in Box 1 wages on your W-2. These are two separate things being reported for different purposes. Box 1 should only include your wages, reported tips, and other compensation - basically the income that's subject to federal income tax. Allocated tips (Box 8) are tips that your employer has assigned to you because the total reported tips in your workplace were less than a certain percentage of the business's food and drink sales. They represent additional tips your employer thinks you should have received based on sales. Since you haven't actually reported these allocated tips as income (that's why they're "allocated"), they shouldn't be included in Box 1. It sounds like your employer may be making a payroll error by adding these amounts together.

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Yara Abboud

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This is super helpful, thanks! If my employer is doing this wrong, what should I do about it? Can I just file my taxes based on what I know is right, or do I need to get a corrected W-2 from them?

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Connor Byrne

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You should definitely reach out to your employer's payroll department first to point out the discrepancy. Ask them to review how they're calculating Box 1 wages and explain that allocated tips shouldn't be included there. If they agree it's an error, they should issue you a corrected W-2 (marked as "CORRECTED") before you file your taxes. If they refuse or don't understand the issue, you can report this to the IRS and file Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) with your tax return, showing the correctly calculated amounts.

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PixelPioneer

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Paolo Rizzo

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Amina Sy

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Amina Sy

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OK I have to eat my words! After seeing the comments here I tried Claimyr because I was desperate - I've been fighting with my restaurant's payroll department for weeks about this exact allocated tips issue. Got a call back from the IRS in about 40 minutes! The agent confirmed everything people are saying here - allocated tips should NOT be included in Box 1 wages. She even sent some kind of notice to my employer. Got my corrected W-2 yesterday. Sometimes being wrong feels pretty good!

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NebulaNomad

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For those wondering about the tax implications, when allocated tips are incorrectly included in Box 1, you're essentially paying income tax on that money twice! Once as part of your regular wages and again as allocated tips. The IRS specifically designed Box 8 to handle these separately since allocated tips are a special category.

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Javier Garcia

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Wait so do we pay taxes on allocated tips at all? I thought they were just the restaurant's way of making sure we're reporting enough tips to match their sales ratios or something?

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NebulaNomad

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Yes, you do need to pay taxes on allocated tips (Box 8) - they're considered taxable income. The IRS assumes these are tips you received but didn't report to your employer. However, they shouldn't ALSO be included in Box 1. That's where the double-counting problem happens. Box 1 should only include your normal wages and any tips you actually reported to your employer during the year. Allocated tips go only in Box 8, and you'll pay tax on them when you file your return.

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Emma Taylor

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Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this situation? Will it automatically catch this error or do I need to manually adjust something?

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TurboTax doesn't automatically detect if your employer made a mistake on your W-2. It just uses whatever numbers you enter from your W-2 form. Your best bet is to get a corrected W-2 from your employer before filing.

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