Amended return stuck for 7+ months after removing fraudulent fuel credit - $8,365 balance frozen since February
My brother filed his 2023 taxes and just found out his tax preparer fraudulently added a fuel credit to his return. He filed an amended return back in August to fix this mistake, but everything seems frozen since then. I've got his transcript from this year and I'm trying to figure out what's happening with his refund. The transcript shows the following: ACCOUNT BALANCE: -$9,455.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Feb. 25, 2025 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Feb. 25, 2025 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$9,455.00 ** INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED ** EXEMPTIONS: 01 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $69,836.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $55,986.00 TAX PER RETURN: $7,723.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2024 PROCESSING DATE May 13, 2024 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION | CYCLE | DATE | AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed | 20241705 | 05-13-2024 | $7,723.00 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding | | 04-15-2024 | -$3,568.00 810 Refund freeze | | 02-08-2024 | $0.00 766 Credit to your account | | 04-15-2024 | -$12,520.00 971 Amended tax return or claim forwarded for processing | | 07-23-2024 | $0.00 977 Amended return filed | | 07-23-2024 | $0.00 I'm confused because it shows a refund freeze from 02-08-2024, which is before he even filed his taxes. Then there's this large credit of -$12,520.00 to his account, which I'm guessing includes the fraudulent fuel credit. His amended return shows as filed and forwarded for processing on 07-23-2024, but there's been no movement since then. It's now been over 7 months since the amended return was filed and everything still appears frozen. The account balance shows -$9,455.00 which means the IRS thinks they owe him money, but he knows that's not correct because of the fraudulent credit. Why would there be a refund freeze BEFORE he even filed? And why is there no additional activity after the amended return was processed? Is this typical for fraud cases? What should he expect next? Any ideas why this is taking so long or what might be happening? Thanks for any help!
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Sophia Long
Looking at the transcript, I can see that your brother's original return included a large credit ($12,520) which is likely the fraudulent fuel credit. The timeline shows: 1. A refund freeze was placed on Feb 8, 2024 - this happened BEFORE the return was even processed (May 13), suggesting the IRS systems flagged the return automatically due to the suspicious credit. 2. The amended return was received and forwarded for processing on July 23, 2024. 3. The current negative balance of $8,365 represents money the IRS would potentially owe your brother, but it's frozen pending review. Since this involves potential fraud by a tax preparer, the IRS is likely conducting a more thorough review. The absence of any further transaction codes since July suggests the amended return is still under review. This type of review can take 6-12 months or longer, especially in cases involving potential fraud. Your brother should try calling the IRS Amended Return hotline at 866-464-2050 to check the status, but be prepared for a long wait.
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Carter Holmes
Thank you! That timeline makes sense. Do you think the freeze was automatic because the credit was so large compared to his income? He's really worried about penalties even though he's trying to fix someone else's mistake.
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Sophia Long
Yes, exactly. The fuel credit is typically used by businesses with specific fuel expenses, not typical W-2 employees. The IRS has automatic filters that flag returns with certain credits that don't match the taxpayer's profile. Based on the transcript, I don't see any penalty assessments yet, which is good news.
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Carter Holmes
That's a relief about no penalties. He already spent some of the refund before realizing the mistake 😬 Is there anything he should do besides wait? Should he contact the tax preparer who did this?
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Sophia Long
He should definitely document everything with the tax preparer - save emails, get written confirmation that they made the error. He might also want to file a complaint with the IRS using Form 14157 (Tax Return Preparer Fraud or Misconduct Affidavit). And unfortunately, he'll likely need to repay any portion of the refund that was based on the fraudulent credit.
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Jade O'Malley
Something looks fishy with those dates. How was there a refund freeze on 02-08-2024 but the return wasn't filed until May? And why would a fraudulent fuel credit even be attempted on a normal W-2 worker? Those are typically for businesses with specific fuel usage.
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Carter Holmes
I noticed that too! I think maybe he filed in January/February but it wasn't fully processed until May? As for the credit, the tax preparer apparently did this to multiple clients to inflate refunds and get higher fees. My brother didn't even notice until he got a letter from the IRS questioning it.
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Carter Holmes
OMG that tax preparer needs to be reported! That's straight up fraud and they're probably doing it to tons of people. Your brother should file Form 14157 to report the preparer. The IRS takes this stuff seriously.
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Carter Holmes
Thanks for the advice. I'll tell him about Form 14157. He was so embarassed about this whole thing he almost didn't want to file the amendment, but I told him it would be worse not to fix it.
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Hunter Edmunds
The reason why this is taking so long is cuz the IRS thinks your brother committed fraud, not his tax preparer. The freeze code (810) indicates investigation. Since this is a potentially fraudulent fuel credit claim, expect a looooong wait. The IRS is buried in these cases rn.
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Ella Lewis
I can tell you exactly what's happening. That 810 freeze code means IRS flagged the return for review, probably because of the fuel credit. The fact that your brother filed an amended return to remove it is good, but here's the problem - amended returns take FOREVER to process right now. Like 6-12 months minimum. They're severely backlogged. Your brother should proactively contact IRS and explain situation. The freeze won't automatically lift just because he filed an amendment. I bet that $12,520 credit is the fuel credit amount which is obviously bogus for a W-2 employee.
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Carter Holmes
Thanks for explaining! Is there any way to speed up this process? He's worried this will impact next year's filing.
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Ella Lewis
Honestly the fastest way would be getting through to someone on the phone, but good luck with that... Maybe try the Taxpayer Advocate Service if it's causing financial hardship.
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Andrew Pinnock
Wait a minute - the tax return was filed in May 2024 but there was a freeze in February 2024? How does that work? And that's a MASSIVE fuel credit for someone with 69k income. Your brother needs a tax lawyer yesterday.
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Carter Holmes
Yeah that timing is weird! I'm guessing maybe he e-filed earlier but it wasn't fully processed until May? And yeah, the credit is ridiculous - that's why he amended as soon as he realized what happened.
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Andrew Pinnock
The timing suggests the IRS was onto this before processing was complete. They probably have algorithms flagging suspicious credits. That tax preparer is toast.
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Brianna Schmidt
Former IRS employee here. That fuel credit is a major red flag - it's supposed to be for businesses with specific fuel expenses. When a regular W-2 employee suddenly claims it, especially a large amount, automatic fraud detection kicks in. The 810 freeze was placed before full processing because their system flagged it immediately. Your brother did the right thing by amending, but unfortunately he's in for a wait. The IRS is processing these very slowly. My advice: don't just wait. He should call and request to speak with someone in the amended return department. Be prepared to wait 2+ hours or use a service that can help get through like many here have mentioned. He might also need to provide documentation showing he was victim of preparer fraud rather than trying to commit fraud himself.
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Carter Holmes
Thanks so much for this insight! Really helpful to hear from someone who worked there. I'll make sure he calls rather than just waiting. Any specific documentation you'd recommend besides the amended return itself?
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Brianna Schmidt
He should gather any communications with the tax preparer, receipts for their services, and documentation showing he had no business activity that would qualify for the fuel credit. If he paid the preparer extra based on the inflated refund, that's important evidence too. Also, make sure he doesn't file next year's return with the same preparer!
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Carter Holmes
Definitely not using that preparer again! Thanks for all this advice.
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Alexis Renard
This is exactly why I dont use tax preparers anymore. Too many of them adding fake credits to pump up refunds (and their fees). Your brother's in for a headache that's gonna last at least another 6 months, I'd bet money on it.
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Camila Jordan
I'm suprised no one said this yet, but your brother needs to be prepared to PAY BACK the portion of the refund he already received that was fraudulent. The IRS will eventually want that money back with interest. He should start setting aside funds now if possible.
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Carter Holmes
That's what I'm worried about. He already spent some of it 😬 Do you know if they'll set up a payment plan or just demand it all at once?
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Camila Jordan
They'll usually offer a payment plan. The interest will keep accruing, but the rates aren't terrible. Just make sure he responds to any notices immediately when they eventually come.
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Carter Holmes
That's a relief. Thanks!
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Hmmm might check it out then. The IRS transcripts are like reading hieroglyphics to me lol
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Max Knight
One thing no one has mentioned - when did your brother receive the refund that included the fraudulent credit? If he already got it and spent it, the IRS will want that money back plus interest. The transcript shows a negative balance which means IRS thinks they owe HIM money, which is confusing if he's trying to pay back an erroneous refund.
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Emma Swift
Hi there, I spent 7 years at IRS in the examination department. The codes on the transcript tell a clear story: 1. Your brother's tax preparer claimed a fuel tax credit (probably Form 4136) 2. IRS systems immediately flagged it as suspicious (the 810 freeze) 3. Despite the freeze, the return completed processing 4. Your brother realized the issue and filed an amended return The good news is the amended return was received (code 977). The bad news is amended returns with fraud concerns take much longer to process. The negative balance means on paper, IRS owes money, but the freeze prevents any refund. Your brother should: - Call IRS Amended Return line (866-464-2050) - Consider Taxpayer Advocate Service if it's been >6 months - File Form 14157 to report the tax preparer - Be prepared to repay any fraudulent refund amount received
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Carter Holmes
Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! This really helps us understand the situation better. I'll make sure he follows all these steps!
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Isabella Tucker
Quick question but why is there a freeze date BEFORE the filing date? That seems weird.
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Jayden Hill
The IRS system probably detected the issue during pre-processing. When returns are e-filed, they go through initial validation before formal acceptance. The 150 code date is when the return completed full processing, not when it was initially received.
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Isabella Tucker
Thanks! Didn't know they did pre-processing like that.
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Carter Holmes
Did they actually help with an amended return though? I've heard the regular agents can't do much with amendments.
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LordCommander
Yes! The key is getting connected to the right department. When you get through, immediately ask to be transferred to the amended return department. The first agent might say they can't help, but insist on the transfer. That's what worked for me.
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Carter Holmes
Great tip! Will do that. Thanks!
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Lucy Lam
why is everybody talking about these paid services? Just call the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service. It's FREE and they are literally designed to help with these exact situations. 877-777-4778
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Aidan Hudson
Good luck getting through to TAS right now. They're so backed up they're rejecting cases unless you can prove severe financial hardship. I tried for 2 months and couldn't even get past their phone system.
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Lucy Lam
Damn really? Things must be worse than when I used them last year. That sucks.
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