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Its way too early to worry tbh. The IRS is still processing returns from last year lmaooo 🤔

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Mia Green

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Same thing happened to me last year! The SBTPG portal doesn't populate until the IRS actually starts processing your refund for payment. Since you just filed last week, you're still well within the normal timeframe. I'd give it another week or two before getting concerned. The "accepted" status just means they received it without errors, but processing takes time especially early in the season.

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GalaxyGazer

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Don't panic about the missed June payment! The IRS isn't as scary as everyone makes them out to be. I missed TWO quarterly payments last year when I switched from W2 to freelancing and the penalty was only like $75 when I filed. The most important thing is to start making payments now for September and January. You can easily do this online at IRS.gov using Direct Pay - takes like 5 minutes. And definitely dont worry about "bothering" your accountant. That's literally his job! Even if it's his off season, he should at least respond to urgent questions. If he won't, might be time to find someone new.

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Be careful with this advice. Penalties vary GREATLY depending on how much you owe. I missed a quarterly payment on $20k of freelance income and my penalty was over $400. It depends on your income level and how much you underpaid.

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Yuki Ito

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I've been freelancing for about 3 years now and can share some practical advice from my experience: For your first question - yes, definitely start making quarterly payments now. The general rule is if you expect to owe $1,000+ in taxes when you file, you need to make estimated payments. Regarding the June deadline - don't stress too much about it. The penalty is calculated as a percentage (currently around 8% annually) of the underpaid amount for the time it was late. So if you owe $2,000 for that quarter and pay it 2 months late, you're looking at maybe $25-50 in penalties, not hundreds. One thing that really helped me was using the "safe harbor" rule - if you pay 100% of what you owed last year (or 110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k), you won't face any penalties even if you end up owing more when you file. This gives you a baseline to work with. For tracking, I highly recommend QuickBooks Self-Employed or even just a dedicated business bank account like others mentioned. Makes everything so much cleaner at tax time. And honestly, if your tax guy disappears completely during off-season, that's a red flag. A good tax professional should at least be available for urgent questions year-round, even if they're busier in spring.

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James Maki

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This is incredibly helpful, especially the safe harbor rule explanation! I had no idea that paying 100% of last year's tax liability could protect me from penalties. That actually makes this way less stressful since I can just look at my 2023 return to get a baseline. Quick question about the safe harbor rule - does that 100% apply to just income tax or does it include the self-employment tax portion too? And when you say "what you owed last year," do you mean the total tax liability or just what I had to pay when filing (after accounting for W2 withholdings)? Also totally agree about the tax guy situation being a red flag. I'm starting to think I need to find someone who's more accessible year-round, especially now that I'm self-employed and likely to have ongoing questions.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is a really complex QSBS situation that requires careful planning. One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned yet is the working capital safe harbor under 1202(e)(6). When you're contributing assets from the 3 C Corps to the new corporation, you'll want to ensure that any cash or investment assets don't push you over the limits for qualifying as an active business. The safe harbor allows reasonable amounts of working capital, but "reasonable" is based on the business needs and plans of the company. If the C Corps are contributing significant cash along with equipment, you might need to document specific business plans for how that working capital will be used in the active business within 2 years. Also, regarding the LLC conversion timing - make sure you're structuring this so the converted C Corp is the one receiving the contributed assets, not doing the contributions first and then converting. The order of operations could affect whether the resulting stock qualifies under Rev Rul 84-111. Have you considered getting a private letter ruling for this structure? Given the complexity and the multiple moving parts, it might be worth the cost and time to get IRS blessing upfront rather than risking an audit challenge later.

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Great point about the working capital safe harbor - that's definitely something that could trip up the qualification if not handled properly. I've seen situations where excess cash from asset contributions ended up disqualifying QSBS status because it wasn't properly planned for under 1202(e)(6). A PLR seems like it could be really valuable here given all the moving parts. The cost might be worth it compared to the potential tax savings from QSBS qualification, especially if we're talking about significant gain exclusion amounts. Have you had success getting PLRs approved for similar multi-entity QSBS restructurings? I'm curious about the typical timeline and whether the IRS has been receptive to these types of requests. One follow-up question on the order of operations - if we convert the LLC to C Corp first, would that potentially affect the 5-year holding period calculation for the shareholders when they eventually contribute assets from the liquidated C Corps? I want to make sure we're not inadvertently resetting any clocks that could delay QSBS benefits.

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Axel Bourke

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The complexity of your situation definitely warrants careful structuring. One approach that might work is to treat this as two separate phases: first, complete the LLC-to-C-Corp conversion under Rev Rul 84-111 to establish your qualifying QSBS entity. Then, after sufficient time has passed (ideally 60-90 days to avoid step transaction issues), liquidate the 3 C Corps and have their shareholders contribute the assets directly to the converted corporation. This structure should help you avoid the stock-for-stock exchange prohibition in 1202(c)(1)(B) since the shareholders would be contributing assets, not stock. The liquidation gives them a stepped-up basis in the distributed assets, which addresses the basis reference concerns under 1202(h)(2). However, you'll need to be very careful about several things: (1) ensure the converted C Corp meets the $50M gross assets test after receiving the contributed assets, (2) document legitimate business purposes for each transaction step, (3) verify that any cash contributions fit within the working capital safe harbor, and (4) make sure no redemptions occur within the prohibited 4-year window. Given the potential tax savings at stake and the multiple compliance requirements, I'd strongly recommend getting a private letter ruling. The cost is usually justified when you're dealing with this level of complexity and the potential for significant QSBS benefits.

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This phased approach makes a lot of sense and seems like the most conservative way to handle this complex situation. The 60-90 day separation between transactions should definitely help establish distinct business purposes and avoid step transaction issues. One thing I'd add - make sure to document the business rationale for each phase clearly in corporate resolutions and board minutes. For the LLC conversion, focus on operational benefits like easier access to capital markets or employee stock option plans. For the subsequent asset contributions, emphasize operational synergies and business consolidation benefits rather than just tax advantages. Also, regarding the PLR recommendation - while it does add time and cost, it's probably wise given that Section 1202 audits have been increasing and the IRS is paying more attention to complex QSBS structures. Having that advance ruling would provide significant peace of mind and could actually save money in the long run by avoiding potential penalties and professional fees during an audit. Has anyone worked with the IRS on QSBS PLRs recently? I'm curious about their current position on multi-entity reorganizations like this one.

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This has been such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat - first time using a professional preparer after years of doing my own taxes with TurboTax. My situation got complicated with some freelance income and I was totally lost. My preparer was amazing and found several business deductions I had no clue about. I was definitely thinking about tipping since that's my instinct when someone provides great service, but reading all these responses from actual tax professionals really opened my eyes. I love the idea of a coffee shop gift card - that feels like the perfect middle ground between showing appreciation and staying professional. And I definitely need to write a detailed Google review. She spent almost an hour explaining estimated quarterly payments to me which probably saved me from underpayment penalties next year. Thanks everyone for the education on proper etiquette here! It's so different from other service industries but makes total sense.

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Luca Bianchi

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Welcome to the club of finally using a professional! I made the switch three years ago and it's been a game changer. Your preparer sounds fantastic - spending an hour on estimated quarterly payments shows she really cares about setting you up for success long-term, not just getting this year's return done. The coffee gift card idea is perfect, and definitely do that detailed Google review. I've noticed that when I mention specific services like "explained quarterly payments" or "found business deductions" in reviews, it really helps other freelancers and small business owners know they're in good hands. One tip for next year - start keeping better records throughout the year now that you know what deductions to look for. It'll make the whole process even smoother and might help you catch even more savings!

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As a tax professional myself, I really appreciate this whole discussion! It's refreshing to see people wanting to show appreciation appropriately. The gift card to a local coffee shop is honestly perfect - we absolutely run on caffeine during tax season and it shows you put thought into something we'd actually use. The $25-50 range mentioned earlier is spot on. But I have to echo what others have said - detailed Google reviews are pure gold for us. When you mention specifics like "found business deductions for my freelance work" or "explained quarterly estimated payments," that tells future clients exactly what kind of expertise we offer. Those reviews bring in clients who are actually a good fit for our services. One more thing - if your preparer offers year-round tax planning consultations (many of us do), that's another great way to show appreciation. Coming back for mid-year check-ins or planning sessions shows you value the relationship beyond just the annual filing. Plus it often saves you money in the long run!

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Emma Wilson

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This is such valuable insight from a professional! I'm definitely going with the coffee gift card approach now. Quick question though - is it better to give it at the end of the appointment when everything's done, or should I bring it to a follow-up meeting if I have one? I don't want to make it seem like I'm trying to influence the work, just genuinely want to show appreciation after the fact. Also really good point about the year-round planning sessions. I had no idea that was even an option! My business income fluctuates a lot month to month, so having someone to check in with during the year could probably save me from making estimated payment mistakes.

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I went through this exact situation in 2023 and want to offer some reassurance - you're absolutely right that you shouldn't owe taxes on personal items sold at a loss! The most important thing to understand is that the 1099-K is just eBay's report to the IRS of gross payments processed - it doesn't determine your actual tax liability. Since you sold personal belongings at a loss, you have no taxable gain to report. Here's the approach that worked best for me after consulting with multiple sources: Report the 1099-K on Schedule 1, Line 8z (Other Income) with a description like "Personal items sold at loss - eBay 1099-K." Then document your cost basis (what you originally paid) for each item. For documentation, I created a simple spreadsheet with three columns: Item Description, Original Cost, and Sale Price. For items without receipts, I used reasonable estimates based on what I remembered paying or looked up similar retail prices online. The IRS accepts good faith estimates for personal property - they understand people don't keep receipts for everything. Since your total original costs will likely exceed your sales proceeds, you can show zero taxable income while still accounting for the 1099-K the IRS received from eBay. Don't stress too much about perfect documentation. Focus on being transparent about the transactions and showing that these were personal items sold during financial hardship, not business inventory sold for profit. The IRS encounters this situation frequently and has guidance specifically addressing personal property sales. You're being proactive by researching this properly - that's exactly the right approach!

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This is such a relief to read - thank you for sharing your experience! I've been going in circles trying to figure out the right approach and your explanation about Schedule 1, Line 8z makes the most sense to me. I really appreciate you emphasizing that reasonable estimates are acceptable for original costs. I was getting overwhelmed thinking I needed perfect documentation for items I bought years ago. Your three-column spreadsheet approach sounds very doable and straightforward. The point about the IRS encountering this situation frequently is particularly reassuring. I was starting to feel like I was in some unusual predicament, but it sounds like selling personal items during financial hardship and receiving a 1099-K is actually pretty common. I'm going to follow your method - report the 1099-K amount on Schedule 1, Line 8z with a clear description, then create that documentation showing my original costs exceeded the sale proceeds. It feels good to finally have a clear path forward instead of worrying about making the wrong choice. Thank you for taking the time to help others going through this same stressful situation!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I received a 1099-K from eBay after selling my old gaming console, some furniture, and various household items during a tough financial period last year. Like you, I definitely sold everything for less than what I originally paid. After reading through all the advice here, I'm planning to use the Schedule 1, Line 8z approach that several people have recommended. It seems like the clearest way to show the IRS that I received the 1099-K they have on file while demonstrating that there was no actual taxable gain from these personal item sales. I'm creating a spreadsheet documenting what I originally paid for each item versus what I sold it for. Even though I don't have receipts for everything, I can make reasonable estimates based on what I remember paying or by looking up similar items online to estimate original retail prices. The reassurance from multiple people here that the IRS understands people sometimes need to sell personal belongings during financial hardship really helps reduce the stress. It's comforting to know this is a common situation that many people navigate successfully each tax season. Thanks for starting this discussion - it's exactly the kind of practical guidance those of us in this situation need to hear!

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