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Kayla Morgan

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I went through this exact situation last year when I had to relocate for a 6-month work assignment! The stress about tax implications was real, but it ended up being much more straightforward than I initially feared. Everyone here is absolutely right about reporting the rental income on Schedule E and deducting your rent payments as expenses. Even though it feels like unnecessary paperwork for a break-even situation, proper reporting is definitely the way to go. One thing that really helped me was setting up automatic transfers to make the payment flow cleaner. I had my subtenant set up automatic payments to me on the 1st of each month, and then I set up an automatic transfer to my roommate on the 2nd. This created a consistent paper trail and reduced the chance of any payment timing issues that could complicate the tax reporting. Also, I'd recommend taking photos of your apartment before the subtenant moves in and after they move out. While this doesn't directly relate to taxes, it protects you in case there are any security deposit disputes that could affect your income calculations later. The peace of mind from knowing you're fully compliant is definitely worth the extra documentation effort. Plus, if you ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future, you'll already have a system in place!

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Luca Greco

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The automatic transfer setup is such a smart idea! I'm just starting my subletting arrangement and hadn't thought about automating the payments, but you're absolutely right that it would create a much cleaner paper trail. Plus it eliminates the risk of forgetting to make the transfer and having timing issues that could complicate things. The photo documentation tip is really valuable too. I can see how having before/after photos would be crucial if there are any disputes about damages or the security deposit. Even though it's not directly tax-related, anything that could affect the financial outcome of the arrangement is worth documenting properly. I'm feeling much more confident about handling this whole situation correctly after reading everyone's experiences. It's reassuring to know that while the reporting requirements might seem complicated at first, the actual process is pretty straightforward when you have good documentation practices in place. Thanks for sharing your systematic approach - definitely going to implement something similar!

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Evelyn Xu

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I'm in a very similar situation right now - had to relocate suddenly for a job opportunity but still have 5 months left on my lease. Found someone to sublet my room and have been wondering about exactly these same tax questions! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly reassuring. I was really hoping there might be some way to avoid reporting this since I'm literally just passing the money through and not making any profit, but the advice about reporting on Schedule E and offsetting with deductions makes total sense from a compliance perspective. The tips about documentation have been especially helpful. I've been pretty loose with record-keeping so far, but I'm definitely going to implement that separate bank account strategy and start tracking everything more systematically. The automatic payment setup that someone mentioned also sounds like a great way to create a clean paper trail. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone dealt with mid-month timing issues? My subtenant moved in on the 15th of the month, so I collected half-rent from them for that first month and paid my full portion to the landlord. I'm assuming I report exactly what I received and deduct exactly what I paid, even though the amounts don't match perfectly for that initial month? Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this thread has been incredibly valuable for understanding how to handle this situation properly!

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Have you considered using a Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) site? If your income is under $60,000, you can get your taxes prepared for free by IRS-certified volunteers. They handle most common tax situations including Form 1040 schedules, itemized deductions, and education credits. What specific tax forms did you need that required the TurboTax upgrade? Some alternatives handle certain forms for free that TurboTax charges for.

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I looked at the VITA site locator on irs.gov and there are three locations within 10 miles of me! Has anyone here actually used their services? I'm nervous about going in person vs. doing it online where I can take my time and double-check everything.

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Appreciate all the suggestions everyone! I've made a note of FreeTaxUSA, Cash App Taxes, and the VITA option. Definitely want to save that $100+ next year... could use that money for literally anything else lol. Will probably try FreeTaxUSA since so many of you recommended it.

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Ezra Bates

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I've been using TaxAct for the past two years after getting fed up with TurboTax's pricing, and it's been solid for my situation. I have rental income, some freelance 1099-NEC work, and investment accounts, and TaxAct handled everything for around $50 total (federal + state). The key thing I learned is to check each software's fee structure BEFORE you start entering data. TaxAct shows you upfront what each "tier" covers, so there are no surprises halfway through like with TurboTax. Their "Premier" version covers most investment forms and rental property schedules without additional fees. One tip: if you're organized with your records like you mentioned, consider doing a "dry run" with the IRS Free File Fillable Forms (basically electronic versions of paper forms) just to see exactly which forms you need. Then you can choose software that covers all those forms at their base price level.

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James Johnson

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Has anyone tried the IRS's Free File program? I heard they have direct options now for filing without using third-party software if your income is under a certain amount. Wondering if it's user-friendly or if it's better to just pay for one of the options mentioned.

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I used the IRS Free File option last year with an AGI under $73k. It basically directs you to free versions of the major tax software options that participate in the program. I was directed to TaxSlayer and it was completely free for federal and state. Interface was decent, not as nice as TurboTax but definitely usable. Worth checking if you qualify!

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I made the switch from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA two years ago and it's been great! The savings are definitely real - I went from paying around $100 with TurboTax to about $25 total with FreeTaxUSA (federal + state). For your situation with W2, mortgage interest, and stock sales, FreeTaxUSA handles everything smoothly. The stock transaction entry is actually pretty intuitive - you can import from most major brokers or enter manually. The mortgage interest deduction process is straightforward too. One tip: if you're worried about making the transition, FreeTaxUSA offers a side-by-side comparison tool where you can prepare your return in both systems to make sure you get the same result. I did that my first year for peace of mind. The interface isn't as flashy as TurboTax but honestly, once you get used to it, it's just as functional for a fraction of the cost.

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KingKongZilla

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Thanks for mentioning the side-by-side comparison tool! I had no idea FreeTaxUSA offered that. That would definitely give me peace of mind for my first year switching over. Did you find any differences between the two when you ran the comparison, or did they come out with the same refund amount? I'm always paranoid about missing something when switching tax software.

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This is a complex situation that highlights why SEP-IRA planning needs to consider your total business picture, not just individual entities. Since your combined self-employment income is negative ($675K - $985K = -$310K), you technically don't have eligible compensation to support any SEP contribution for this tax year. A few additional considerations that might help: 1. **Timing of contributions vs. business results**: If you made the SEP contribution early in the year before the second business losses materialized, this is an unfortunate but common planning mistake. Many business owners make retirement contributions based on projected income that later changes. 2. **Multiple business entity structures**: If these are separate business entities (LLCs, partnerships, etc.), make sure your tax professional reviews how the K-1s are being combined for SE tax purposes. Sometimes there are allocation or characterization issues that could affect the calculation. 3. **State tax implications**: Don't forget to consider how removing the excess SEP contribution might affect your state tax situation, as some states have different rules for retirement account deductions. Given the $69K amount involved, the potential 6% annual penalty ($4,140 per year) makes this a high-priority issue to resolve before your filing deadline. The consensus advice about removing the excess contribution is sound - you really don't want to let this drag into future years with ongoing penalties. Have you considered whether any of the business losses might be subject to limitation rules that could change your net SE income calculation?

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Jamal Carter

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This is really excellent analysis - thank you for bringing up the timing and entity structure considerations. You're absolutely right about the timing issue. I made the SEP contribution in January based on strong Q4 projections from my first business, but the second business completely imploded in Q2-Q3 due to some major contract cancellations and supply chain issues. Regarding the entity structures, both are LLCs taxed as partnerships, so the K-1s should be combining properly for SE tax purposes. But your point about potential limitation rules is interesting - I hadn't considered whether the passive activity loss rules or at-risk limitations might apply to the second business. That business involved some significant equipment financing that went sideways, so there might be some debt basis or at-risk issues that could limit the deductible losses. I'm definitely going to have my CPA review the loss characterization before I make any moves on the SEP contribution. If some of those losses end up being limited or suspended, it could change my net SE income calculation entirely. Better to get the foundation right before dealing with the retirement account implications. The timing pressure with the October extension deadline is real though. Even if we find some limitation issues that improve my SE income picture, I'm probably still looking at removing at least a portion of that SEP contribution to be safe.

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Naila Gordon

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This is exactly the kind of scenario that catches business owners off guard - making retirement contributions based on one business's strong performance only to have another venture crater later in the year. Your situation perfectly illustrates why SEP-IRA contributions need to be based on your total net self-employment picture. You're absolutely correct that with negative combined SE income (-$310K), the entire $69K contribution becomes excess. The key thing to understand is that SEP contributions aren't like traditional IRA contributions where you can have non-deductible basis - they must be supported by actual net earnings from self-employment in the contribution year. Here's what I'd recommend as your action plan: 1. **Have your CPA review the loss limitations first** - As Jamal mentioned, the at-risk rules, passive activity limitations, or debt basis issues could potentially limit some of those losses from the second business. This could improve your net SE income calculation. 2. **Calculate the exact excess amount** - Even if some losses are limited, you'll likely still need to remove a significant portion of the contribution. Your IRA custodian can help calculate the earnings/losses that need to come out with the excess. 3. **Act before October 15th** - If you filed an extension, that's your hard deadline to avoid the ongoing 6% penalty trap. The silver lining is that once you remove the excess, you can potentially redirect some of those funds to other retirement vehicles like a traditional IRA (up to the annual limit) or consider other tax-advantaged strategies for next year when your business picture hopefully stabilizes. Don't beat yourself up too much about the planning - this kind of business volatility is exactly why the IRS has these correction procedures in place.

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Emma Wilson

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This is really solid advice, Naila. I'm in a somewhat similar situation (though not as extreme) and this thread has been incredibly helpful. One thing I'm wondering about - when you remove the excess SEP contribution, does that create any issues with the IRA custodian? Do they typically handle this type of correction smoothly, or should I expect pushback or complications? Also, for future planning, would it make sense to wait until closer to the tax filing deadline to make SEP contributions to avoid this timing mismatch issue? I know you lose out on potential tax-deferred growth for part of the year, but it seems like it might be worth it to avoid these kinds of surprises. The business volatility point really hits home - 2024 has been such a rollercoaster year for so many small business owners. It's good to know the IRS has procedures in place for these situations, even if they're not fun to deal with.

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Sara Unger

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I just did this last week for my three kids! The IRS.gov process is pretty straightforward now compared to previous years. I followed the guide on https://www.irs.gov/identity-theft-fraud-scams/get-an-identity-protection-pin and was able to get PINs for all three children in about an hour total. The verification part took the longest. Make sure you have your ID and their social security cards handy before you start.

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Malik Davis

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I just went through this process for my two kids last month and wanted to share a few tips that made it smoother: 1. Do the ID.me verification during off-peak hours (like mid-morning weekdays) - it's much faster 2. Have both your driver's license AND a utility bill ready - the system sometimes asks for additional verification 3. Write down the PINs immediately and store them securely - you'll need them when filing next year's taxes One thing I wish I'd known earlier: if you use tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, make sure it supports IP PINs before you start filing. Most do now, but it's worth double-checking. The peace of mind is totally worth the 30 minutes it takes per child!

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This is super helpful! I've been putting off getting IP PINs for my kids because I was worried about the technical side of it. Your point about checking tax software compatibility is something I never would have thought of. I use FreeTaxUSA - do you happen to know if they support IP PINs? Also, when you say "store them securely," do you mean like a password manager or just write them down and put them in a safe place?

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