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Haley Stokes

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Just want to clarify something important - while your kids need to file their own tax returns, their income does NOT disqualify them from being your dependents! I got audited last year because of confusion about this. The test is whether YOU provide more than half their support, not how much money they make. So even if your 18-year-old made $12,500, as long as that money wasn't paying for more than half of their total living expenses (think about the value of housing, food, medical, etc. that you provide), you can still claim them. This is especially important for the 18-year-old because they might try to claim their own personal exemption if they file independently, which would prevent you from claiming them.

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Asher Levin

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Do you know if college savings count as support? I paid for my kid's tuition from his 529 plan, not directly from my pocket. Does that still count as me supporting him or not since it technically came from money that was already saved?

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Harmony Love

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Yes, 529 plan distributions for qualified education expenses absolutely count as support you provided! It doesn't matter that the money was previously saved - what matters is that YOU are the one who established and funded the 529 plan, and the distributions are being used for your child's benefit. The IRS considers educational expenses paid from a 529 plan as support provided by the account owner (you), not by the beneficiary (your child). So if you paid $15,000 in tuition from his 529 plan, that counts as $15,000 of support you provided toward the total support test. This is actually a common misconception that trips people up during audits. The key is who controls the account and who made the contributions, not the technical source of the funds at the time of distribution.

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This is such a common confusion for parents! Just to add to the great advice already given - make sure you coordinate with your teens about who claims what on their returns. Since you'll be claiming them as dependents on your return, they need to check the box that says "Someone else can claim me as a dependent" on their own tax returns. If they accidentally claim themselves as dependents on their own returns while you also claim them on yours, it creates a mismatch that can delay both returns and potentially trigger correspondence from the IRS. I learned this the hard way with my oldest! Also, keep good records of what you spend on their support (housing, food, medical, school expenses, etc.) in case you ever need to prove the "more than half support" test. It's usually pretty clear-cut when they're living at home, but documentation never hurts.

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Mei Zhang

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This is such helpful advice! I'm completely new to dealing with teen tax situations and had no idea about the coordination needed between returns. Quick question - if my 17-year-old files their own return to get back withheld taxes but I'm claiming them as my dependent, do they still get to keep their full refund? Or does some of it come to me since I'm the one claiming them? Just want to make sure we handle this correctly from the start!

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I'm so grateful to have found this thread! I got an EIN about 5 months ago when I was planning to start a freelance graphic design business, but then I got offered a promotion at my current job and decided to focus on that instead. I've been quietly stressing about whether I needed to file some kind of return for my non-existent business. Reading through everyone's experiences is such a huge relief - it's clear that getting an EIN during that initial burst of entrepreneurial energy and then having life take a different direction is incredibly common. The explanations about EINs being just administrative identifiers rather than triggers for tax obligations really puts everything in perspective. What I found most reassuring is learning from the tax professional that the IRS systems are actually designed to handle inactive EINs automatically. It makes perfect sense that they'd have processes in place for this since so many people must get EINs for businesses that never materialize. I'm definitely saving this entire discussion as documentation of my research process. It's smart to have a clear record showing that I investigated my obligations thoroughly rather than just assuming everything was fine. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories - it's amazing how much peace of mind comes from knowing you're not alone in these situations!

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@Marcelle Drum Your situation sounds so familiar! I think a lot of us go through that cycle of getting excited about a business idea, taking the first administrative steps like getting an EIN, and then having life pull us in different directions. The promotion opportunity sounds like a great reason to shift focus - sometimes the timing just isn t'right for entrepreneurship even when the ideas are solid. What really stands out to me from this entire thread is how the IRS has clearly thought through these scenarios. It makes total sense that their systems would be designed to handle dormant EINs since business planning doesn t'always lead to actual business operations. The graphic design business idea sounds like something you could always revisit in the future when your schedule allows, and now you ll'know exactly when filing requirements would kick in if you do decide to pursue it later. I m'also following everyone s'lead on documenting this research - this thread has become like a masterclass in understanding EIN obligations! It s'such a relief to get clear, consistent information from multiple perspectives instead of trying to decipher confusing IRS publications on your own.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful for so many of us! I got my EIN about 4 months ago for a potential meal prep delivery service I was going to start, but then some personal health issues came up and I had to put everything on hold. I've been quietly worrying that I was supposed to file something by now. What really stands out to me from reading everyone's experiences is how this situation is SO much more common than I realized. It seems like there's this natural entrepreneurial cycle where you get excited about a business idea, take those first administrative steps like getting an EIN, and then reality hits and priorities shift. The key insight that's giving me the most peace of mind is understanding that the EIN is truly just an identifier - like getting assigned a student ID number before you actually start taking classes. The tax obligations only begin when you start conducting actual business activities, not when you get the paperwork in order. I'm also really appreciating the practical advice about documentation. I'm saving this entire thread as evidence that I researched my obligations thoroughly. It feels so much more responsible than just crossing my fingers and hoping I wasn't missing anything important. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories - it's amazing how much anxiety can be resolved just by knowing you're not the only one navigating these confusing situations!

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Fidel Carson

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@Connor O'Neill I'm so sorry to hear about your health issues - I hope everything is getting better for you! Your meal prep delivery service idea sounds really promising for when you're ready to pursue it again. Reading through this entire thread has been such an eye-opener about how common this situation really is. It's like there's this whole community of people who got EINs with big entrepreneurial dreams and then had life happen! The student ID analogy you used is perfect - it really drives home that having the administrative setup doesn't create any obligations until you actually start "attending classes" (conducting business). What's been most reassuring to me is seeing how many different types of businesses are represented here - jewelry, tutoring, pottery, graphic design, dog walking, meal prep - it really shows that this EIN-but-no-activity situation crosses all industries and circumstances. Life just gets complicated sometimes, and it's good to know the tax system is designed to handle that reality. I'm definitely joining the documentation club too! This thread has become like a comprehensive FAQ for unused EINs. It's such a relief to have clear, consistent information from multiple sources instead of trying to piece together confusing government websites on your own.

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed my 1040 about 12 days ago through H&R Block online, got the acceptance confirmation immediately, but have been stuck on "still being processed" ever since. My return is super straightforward too - just one W-2, standard deduction, no dependents or credits. Reading all these responses is honestly such a relief. I was starting to think something was wrong with my return, but it sounds like this is just the reality of tax season 2024. The 21-day timeline from acceptance seems to be the real benchmark to watch, not the "7-10 days" I was hoping for in my head. What's really helpful is learning that the "Where's My Refund" tool is basically useless this year. I've been checking it obsessively every morning, but based on everyone's experiences here, I should probably just be monitoring my bank account instead since refunds seem to show up randomly without any warning or status updates. @3889e6ce151f I hope your refund comes through soon, especially with the car repair situation adding pressure. At least we're all in this waiting game together and it's clearly a widespread issue rather than something specific to our individual returns!

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I'm in the same exact boat! Filed about 8 days ago and have been refreshing that "Where's My Refund" page like it's going to magically change. It's so reassuring to see that literally everyone is dealing with this same "still being processed" limbo right now. The fact that so many people with simple returns (just W-2s, standard deduction) are all experiencing the same delays really drives home that this is just how things are working this season, not something wrong with our specific filings. I was getting worried that maybe I made some mistake or forgot to include something important. @2f0c71de36d6 You're so right about the "Where's My Refund" tool being useless - I'm definitely going to stop obsessively checking it and just keep an eye on my bank account instead. Based on all these stories, it sounds like the money just appears randomly one day regardless of what their website says. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and timelines. This thread has been way more helpful than any official IRS guidance I've found online!

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Yara Khoury

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I can definitely relate to this anxiety! I filed my 1040 about 16 days ago and have been in the exact same "still being processed" status with no updates. Like many others here, I have a straightforward return - just W-2 income from my job and standard deduction, nothing complicated that should trigger extra scrutiny. What's really helping me stay calm is reading everyone's experiences in this thread. It's clear that the 21-day processing window is much more realistic than what we might hope for, and the fact that so many people with simple returns are experiencing identical delays shows this is just how the system is working this season. The most valuable insight I'm taking away is to stop obsessively checking the "Where's My Refund" tool and instead monitor my bank account directly. Based on multiple stories here, it sounds like refunds are appearing randomly in people's accounts days before the IRS website even updates to reflect the status change. I know the waiting is especially stressful when you have specific plans for that money, but it seems like patience is really the only option right now. The IRS is clearly dealing with processing backlogs and system issues that are affecting pretty much everyone who filed in the past few weeks. Hang in there everyone - sounds like we're all in this together and the money will eventually show up, even if the timing is unpredictable!

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This entire thread has been such a lifesaver for my anxiety! I filed my return 9 days ago and have been stuck in the same "still being processed" status. Reading everyone's experiences really puts things in perspective - it's clearly a system-wide issue rather than something wrong with any of our individual returns. I'm definitely taking the advice about checking my bank account instead of obsessing over the IRS tracking tool. It's wild how many people have reported their refunds appearing randomly without any warning or status updates on the official website. @bc2679de8fd7 You're absolutely right that patience seems to be the only option here. I was getting really worked up thinking 9 days was way too long, but now I understand that the 21-day window is much more realistic. Thanks for helping normalize this frustrating but apparently very common experience!

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Chloe Harris

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Something no one mentioned - if this is your first year as a sole proprietor, you technically qualify for a safe harbor based on last year's taxes. If you had zero tax liability last year, you may not need to make estimated payments your first year.

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Diego Vargas

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That's not entirely accurate. The safe harbor only applies if you actually filed a tax return for the full 12 months of the previous year. If you didn't file or if you filed a short-year return, it doesn't apply.

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Miguel Ramos

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As a fellow sole proprietor who went through this same confusion, here's what I wish someone had told me clearly: You need to make quarterly PAYMENTS (not file returns) if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes. The deadlines are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15. Your 20% savings rate might not be enough - I learned the hard way that you need to account for both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (15.3%). I typically set aside 25-30% to be safe. The easiest way to start is to use Form 1040-ES to calculate your first quarter payment, then you can just make payments online through IRS Direct Pay without mailing forms each time. Keep detailed records of all business income and expenses - you'll need them for your annual Schedule C filing. Don't stress too much about getting it perfect the first year. The IRS understands learning curves, and as long as you're making good faith efforts to pay what you owe, any small penalties are manageable. The key is to start now rather than wait!

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This is exactly the kind of clear, practical advice I needed! The 25-30% savings rate makes so much more sense than my 20% - I was definitely underestimating the self-employment tax portion. Quick question though - when you say "good faith efforts," does that mean if I'm a little short on a quarterly payment but I'm actively trying to comply, the IRS won't come down hard on me? I'm still figuring out my cash flow patterns and worried about underpaying accidentally.

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Sienna Gomez

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I'm glad to see so many people helping out with this question! Just wanted to add that when I was in a similar situation, my credit union's customer service was actually really helpful too. If you're still feeling uncertain after reading all these great explanations, don't hesitate to call or visit your credit union and ask them to walk through the form with you. They deal with first-time account holders all the time and are usually very patient about explaining these questions. Most credit unions have a community-focused approach and genuinely want to help their members succeed financially. Sometimes it's nice to have that face-to-face reassurance, especially when you're taking this big step toward financial independence!

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That's such great advice! I was actually thinking about doing exactly that - calling the credit union to double-check my understanding. It's really comforting to know that they're used to helping people through these forms and won't make me feel silly for asking. I've been so nervous about messing something up on my first banking application, but everyone here has made me realize that asking questions is actually the smart thing to do. The credit union staff probably appreciate when people take the time to understand what they're signing rather than just guessing. Thanks for the encouragement!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm actually a tax preparer and see this confusion all the time during tax season. Just wanted to reinforce what everyone has said - for 99% of people opening their first bank account, the answer to backup withholding is "No." The only time I've seen clients subject to backup withholding is when they've had serious ongoing issues with the IRS - like repeatedly providing wrong SSNs to banks or consistently failing to report investment income. The IRS doesn't just randomly put people on backup withholding. One thing I'll add that might be helpful: even if your account does earn interest (which is pretty minimal on most checking accounts these days), as long as it's under $10, the bank doesn't even have to send you a 1099-INT form. So for a new checking account holder, the backup withholding question is really just a formality. You're being smart by asking questions and taking your time with the application. That careful approach will serve you well as you navigate more financial decisions in the future!

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This is so helpful to hear from a tax professional! I had no idea that banks don't even have to send a 1099-INT if the interest is under $10. That makes me feel even better about this whole process. I was worried I'd be dealing with complicated tax forms right away, but it sounds like for a basic checking account, especially when you're just starting out, the tax implications are pretty minimal. It's really reassuring to know that my cautious approach to filling out these forms is the right way to go. Thank you for taking the time to share your professional perspective - it's exactly the kind of expert insight that makes this community so valuable!

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