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Starting a Business Selling Collectibles: Tax Implications for Personal Collection Items

I've got a specific tax question about selling collectibles that I can't seem to find a clear answer to anywhere. I've searched the IRS website and Google with no luck. I've accumulated quite a collection of collectibles over the last 30+ years. Some I purchased myself, others were gifts, and a portion were inherited from relatives. I'm planning to start a part-time business selling collectibles online and want to include some items from my personal collection in this business venture. I've done plenty of research on how the IRS distinguishes between hobby income and business income, and I think I understand that distinction. I've also read about capital gains tax for collectible sales. Several online sources, including a Nolo article, mention that the IRS treats collectible sellers differently depending on whether they're classified as hobbyists, investors, or dealers. My understanding is this: As a hobbyist selling collectibles, I'd owe capital gains tax on any profit. If I run a business buying and selling collectibles for profit, I'd pay tax on the business profit. But here's where I'm confused - if I start a business and incorporate part of my personal collection as inventory, alongside items I specifically purchase to resell, how will the tax situation work? Will I still need to pay capital gains tax on profits from selling my personal collection items? Or can I simply include everything under the business profit umbrella? I plan to consult with a CPA if I proceed with setting up this business, but I'd like to have a basic understanding before getting too far into planning. Thanks for any insight!

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This thread has been absolutely amazing to read through! I'm in a similar situation with my vintage sports memorabilia collection that I've been building for about 13 years, and the depth of practical advice here is incredible. One thing I'd add that I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact on insurance premiums when transitioning from personal collection to business inventory. I discovered that my homeowner's policy has significantly lower coverage limits for business property, so I'm looking at needing separate commercial insurance which is considerably more expensive. This could be a significant ongoing cost that affects the viability of the transition. Also, for those concerned about maintaining collector relationships, I've found that being transparent about your intentions early can actually strengthen some relationships. I mentioned to a few dealer contacts that I was considering this transition, and several offered to help with sourcing inventory or even consign items through my future business. The community response was more positive than I expected. The seasonal timing considerations several people mentioned are spot-on for sports memorabilia too - there are clear peaks around draft seasons, playoffs, and major anniversaries that could really impact first-year success if you time the launch properly. Thanks to everyone, especially the professionals who've shared their expertise. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes the difference between success and costly mistakes!

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Ravi Patel

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This has been such an incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! As someone who's been collecting vintage currency and paper money for about 17 years, I'm facing this exact transition question and have learned more from this thread than months of independent research. One aspect I'd like to add that hasn't been fully explored yet is the impact of authentication and grading services on this transition. Much of my collection is raw (ungraded), but for business sales, customers increasingly expect third-party authentication, especially for high-value notes. The cost of professional grading could significantly impact which items are viable for business inventory versus keeping as personal collection. I'm also wondering about the timing of major collection additions during the transition period. I have an opportunity to acquire a significant estate collection next month, but I'm not sure whether to purchase it as personal collection items (if I haven't established dealer status yet) or business inventory (if I move forward with the transition first). The tax implications could be substantial either way. The international considerations Paolo mentioned really resonate with me too. Currency collecting often involves transactions across borders, and I'm concerned about how dealer status might affect customs declarations and the ability to import/export certain historical currency items. Thank you to everyone for sharing such detailed real-world experiences. The documentation strategies, timing considerations, and relationship preservation advice have been invaluable. This thread really should be a case study in how to approach complex collector-to-dealer transitions!

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Zoe Stavros

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Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the total interest reported on the 1098s doesn't match what you actually paid according to your payment history? My mortgage was sold in August and the sum of both 1098s was about $340 less than what my payment records show for interest.

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Jamal Harris

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This happened to me too! I think it has to do with the timing of when payments are applied. Check your December payment - if you paid it late in the month, the new lender might not have counted it until January of the next year.

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Felix Grigori

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Great question! I dealt with this exact situation last year when my mortgage was sold in July. You definitely need to add both 1098 forms together - each lender reports the interest they collected during their respective periods of servicing your loan. One thing to watch out for: make sure there's no overlap in the dates. Sometimes there can be a few days where both lenders might report interest, especially around the transfer date. If the numbers seem unusually high when added together, double-check your monthly statements to verify the totals. Also, keep both 1098 forms with your tax records. The IRS receives copies of both forms, so they'll expect to see the combined total reflected in your return. TurboTax should handle this smoothly when you enter both forms separately - it will automatically combine the mortgage interest amounts for your Schedule A.

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This is really helpful advice about checking for overlap! I'm curious - if there is an overlap in dates between the two lenders, how would you handle that? Do you subtract the overlapping amount from one of the 1098s, or is there a different way to report it to avoid double-counting the interest?

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Ethan Wilson

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As a tax professional who's helped dozens of small construction LLCs with their first partnership returns, I want to emphasize something that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between your distributive share and actual distributions when completing Line 14. Line 14a should reflect your share of the partnership's self-employment income regardless of how much cash you actually took out of the business. So even if you and your brother-in-law only withdrew $30,000 each but your share of business income was $53,000 each (after removing rental income), you'd still report the full $53,000 on Line 14a. This is a common source of confusion for new partnership filers. The self-employment tax is based on your allocated share of income, not your actual cash distributions. Any money you left in the business for equipment, working capital, etc. is still subject to self-employment tax in the year it was earned. Also, since you mentioned revenue of $135,000 for two partners, make sure you're properly tracking and deducting all your legitimate business expenses. Construction businesses often have significant deductible expenses (tools, vehicle expenses, materials, etc.) that can substantially reduce your taxable income if properly documented. The difference between gross revenue and net income after expenses is what determines your Line 14 amounts. Keep excellent records going forward - the IRS pays extra attention to cash-heavy businesses like construction, so having solid documentation will serve you well in the long run.

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This is an excellent point about distributive share vs. actual distributions! I'm just getting started with understanding partnership taxation, and this distinction would have definitely tripped me up. So just to make sure I understand correctly - if our business made a profit of $106,000 after expenses (giving us $53,000 each in distributive share), but we only took out $30,000 each in cash, we'd still owe self-employment tax on the full $53,000 each? That seems like it could create a cash flow issue if you're reinvesting heavily in the business. Also, you mentioned the IRS pays extra attention to cash-heavy businesses - is there anything specific construction LLCs should be doing differently in terms of record keeping? We've been pretty good about keeping receipts for materials and equipment, but I'm wondering if there are other documentation requirements we should be aware of. Thanks for the professional insight - it's really helpful to get perspective from someone who works with businesses like ours regularly!

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Rachel Clark

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Yes, you've got it exactly right! You would owe self-employment tax on the full $53,000 each, even though you only withdrew $30,000 in cash. This is one of the trickier aspects of partnership taxation - the tax liability is based on your share of the profits, not what you actually took out. You're absolutely correct that this can create cash flow challenges, especially for growing businesses that need to reinvest earnings. Many partnerships address this by having a policy of distributing at least enough cash to cover each partner's tax obligations on their allocated income. Something to discuss with your brother-in-law for future years. For construction businesses, I always recommend my clients maintain detailed records of: job-by-job income and expenses, vehicle mileage logs (if you use personal vehicles for business), tool and equipment purchase receipts with dates, subcontractor payments and 1099s, and bank statements showing clear separation between business and personal expenses. The IRS particularly scrutinizes cash payments and personal use of business assets in construction. If you buy a truck through the business but sometimes use it personally, keep a detailed log. If you pay subcontractors in cash, make sure you have signed receipts and issue 1099s where required. Also consider getting a dedicated business credit card and bank account if you haven't already - it makes record keeping much cleaner and shows the IRS you're treating this as a legitimate business operation.

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Amina Sy

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I went through this exact same situation with my HVAC partnership last year! The Line 14 confusion is so real - I spent hours trying to decode those IRS instructions. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track what goes where. I made columns for total income, rental income (we also rent out some equipment), and self-employment income. This made it crystal clear that our Line 14a should be total business income minus the rental portion. For your situation with $55,000 each in ordinary business income and $2,000 each from equipment rentals, you'd indeed report $53,000 on Line 14a for each partner. The rental income goes on Line 3 of the K-1 instead. Also, since this is your first year, definitely set up a system for quarterly estimated payments going forward. We got hit with penalties because we didn't realize how much the self-employment tax would be on top of regular income tax. The 15.3% SE tax on $53,000 is over $8,000 per partner - something to plan for! One last tip: keep really detailed records of which jobs generated what income. Construction businesses get audited more frequently, and having job-by-job documentation makes everything much smoother if the IRS ever comes knocking.

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Norah Quay

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This spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I'm definitely going to set something like this up to keep track of our different income sources. Having it all laid out clearly would have saved me so much confusion when I was first trying to figure out what goes on Line 14. The point about quarterly estimated payments really hits home too. We've been so focused on just keeping the business running that we completely underestimated the tax implications. $8,000+ per partner in self-employment tax is a huge number when you're not expecting it! We definitely need to get a system in place for 2024 so we don't get caught off guard again. I'm curious about your job-by-job documentation system - do you use any specific software or just track everything in spreadsheets? With our construction work, we're usually juggling multiple small projects at once, and I can see how having detailed records for each job would be really important if we ever got audited. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who's been through this exact situation!

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Jacob Lewis

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I went through something very similar when I found $85k cash in my late father's workshop about two years ago. Here's what I learned from the process: First, don't panic about the CTR (Currency Transaction Report) - it's just paperwork the bank files for any cash transaction over $10k. It's not an investigation, just documentation. The key is being completely transparent about the source. What really helped me was gathering as much documentation as possible BEFORE going to the bank. I collected: - Old photos of my dad's business - Statements from family members who knew about his cash-saving habits - Any old business records or tax returns I could find - A timeline of when he likely accumulated the cash The bank was actually very understanding once I explained the situation clearly. They asked some standard questions about the source, I provided my documentation, and the deposit went smoothly. No red flags or additional scrutiny. One important thing: make sure you're clear on whether your grandfather's estate went through probate. If it did and this money wasn't included, you might need to work with an estate attorney to handle it properly before depositing. In my case, my dad's estate was still open, so we were able to add this as an asset. The good news is that inherited cash isn't taxable income to you at the federal level, though your state might have inheritance taxes depending on where you live. Feel free to ask if you have other questions - happy to share more details about my experience!

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Omar Fawaz

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm curious about the timeline aspect you mentioned. How far back did you have to trace your dad's business activities? My grandfather's restaurant was sold in the late 80s/early 90s, so I'm worried I won't be able to find much documentation from that long ago. Did the bank accept your explanation even with gaps in the paper trail? Also, regarding the estate issue - my grandfather passed 8 years ago and I believe there was some kind of probate process, but honestly my parents handled everything and I wasn't really involved. Should I be asking them for those records before I do anything else?

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Ali Anderson

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Great question about the timeline and documentation! In my case, I only had to go back about 15 years, but the bank was surprisingly understanding about gaps in older records. What mattered more was having a coherent story that made sense, supported by whatever documentation I could find. For your grandfather's situation from the 80s/90s, you probably won't find much paperwork, but focus on what you can document: family testimony about his restaurant business, any old photos or records, maybe even immigration documents that show when he came to the US. The bank isn't expecting perfect records from 30+ years ago - they just need to satisfy their compliance requirements with reasonable documentation. Definitely get those probate records from your parents first! That's actually the most important step. If the estate was formally closed and this money wasn't included, you'll likely need to work with an estate attorney before the bank will even consider the deposit. Some states require reopening probate for discovered assets, while others have simpler procedures. But you need to know the status before moving forward. I'd suggest: 1) Get probate records, 2) Consult with an estate attorney about next steps, 3) Gather whatever documentation you can about your grandfather's business, then 4) approach the bank with everything organized. Much smoother process when you're prepared!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - found about $60k cash in my grandmother's house after she passed last month. Reading through all these responses has been really helpful, especially the advice about getting the estate documentation sorted first. One thing I wanted to add from my research so far: if you're worried about the bank asking difficult questions, it might help to call ahead and speak with a branch manager before bringing in the cash. I did this and they were able to walk me through exactly what documentation they'd need and what the process would look like. They even scheduled a private appointment so I wouldn't have to wait in line with a bag of cash. Also, regarding the Colombian business angle - you might want to check if your grandfather filed any FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) forms with the IRS back then. Even if he didn't have foreign accounts when he passed, those old filings could help establish the legitimate source of his savings from the business sale. The IRS keeps those records going back decades. The estate attorney consultation really seems like the right first step though. Better to spend a few hundred on legal advice upfront than deal with complications later.

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Liam O'Connor

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That's really smart advice about calling the branch manager ahead of time! I never would have thought of that, but it makes total sense to avoid the awkwardness of showing up with a duffel bag of cash and having to explain everything to a teller. Did they ask you a lot of questions over the phone, or were they pretty understanding about the situation? The FBAR suggestion is interesting too - I have no idea if my grandfather would have filed those, but it's worth looking into. Do you know if there's a way to search for old FBAR records, or would I need to request them from the IRS directly? Given how long he's been gone, I'm not even sure what tax records my parents might still have from his time here. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone going through the same thing right now!

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Chloe Martin

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Has anyone successfully e-filed their return with an NOL carryforward? Last year I had to paper file because TurboTax kept rejecting my return when I tried to include my S-Corp NOL. Wondering if any software handles this correctly for 2025 filing season?

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I've had good luck with TaxSlayer Professional for my S-Corp NOL carryforwards. Regular TurboTax doesn't handle it well but TurboTax Business might. The key is you need to complete the NOL worksheets separately and then just enter the final figures in the software.

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Chloe Martin

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'll look into TaxSlayer Professional. You're right that having the worksheets prepared separately is probably the way to go. Was hoping to avoid paper filing again since refunds take so much longer that way.

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Layla Sanders

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I went through this exact situation two years ago with my S-Corp consulting business. Here's what I learned that might help: For question 1 - No, the NOL doesn't go directly on line 21. Since you have an S-Corp, your losses flow through on Schedule K-1 and get reported on Schedule E of your 1040. The actual NOL calculation happens separately using Form 1045 Schedule A as a worksheet. For question 2 - You can claim your full share of the S-Corp loss, but it's limited by three things: your basis in the S-Corp stock, your at-risk amount, and passive activity rules (Form 8582). Make sure you have sufficient basis to absorb the loss - this includes your initial investment plus any loans you made TO the company. For question 3 - You're looking for Form 1045 Schedule A. Even though Form 1045 is technically for carrying losses back, Schedule A is the IRS worksheet used to calculate NOL amounts for carryforwards too. There's no separate "NOL worksheet" form number. One tip: Keep meticulous records of your basis calculations. The IRS doesn't provide a specific form for tracking S-Corp basis, so you'll need to maintain your own detailed worksheet showing contributions, distributions, prior income/losses, and any loans to the company. This becomes crucial if you ever get audited. Hope this helps! The NOL rules can be confusing but once you understand the flow-through nature of S-Corp losses, it becomes much clearer.

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Sofia Ramirez

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with S-Corp losses and the basis calculation aspect is what's been tripping me up the most. When you mention loans TO the company - does this include credit cards I used for business expenses that I haven't been reimbursed for yet? Or does it need to be formal loans with documentation? My basis might be higher than I thought if personal credit card advances count.

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