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Something I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you'll actually qualify to deduct your Traditional IRA contribution! If you're covered by a retirement plan at work (like a 401k), the deduction for Traditional IRA contributions phases out at certain income levels. For 2025, if you're single and covered by a workplace retirement plan, the deduction starts phasing out at $78,000 and is completely gone at $88,000. So if your income is near or above this range, you might not get the full deduction you're expecting.

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Lauren Zeb

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I do have a 401k at work, but I only contribute about 3% because the match is low. My AGI should be around $65,000, so it sounds like I'd still be eligible for the full Traditional IRA deduction?

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Yes, with an AGI of $65,000, you're still well below the $78,000 phase-out threshold for 2025, so you should be eligible to deduct your full Traditional IRA contribution even though you participate in your employer's 401k plan. Just keep this in mind for future years if your income increases, as you may need to consider a Roth IRA instead once you cross those income thresholds. For now though, you're good to claim the full deduction on line 4(b) of your W4!

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Ethan Clark

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I've been dealing with this exact same issue! The IRS W4 calculator has been giving me inconsistent results too. What I found helpful was to run through the calculator multiple times with the same information to see if the Step 3 amount keeps changing - if it does, that's a clear sign the calculator has a bug. From what I've learned here and through my own research, the safest approach is to manually fill out your W4 rather than relying on the pre-filled version from the calculator. For your $9,500 Traditional IRA contribution, put it ONLY in Step 4(b) as a deduction. Since your income is $65,000, you definitely don't qualify for the Saver's Credit (which phases out completely around $36,500 for single filers), so Step 3 should remain blank unless you have other legitimate tax credits. The calculator seems to have known issues with how it handles retirement contributions, especially when combining them with other tax situations. Better to be conservative and follow the actual W4 instructions rather than trust the automated tool.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with W4 issues and have been so confused by all the conflicting information online. It's reassuring to hear that manually filling out the W4 is actually the safer approach - I was worried I was doing something wrong by not trusting the calculator. One quick question though - when you say to put the Traditional IRA contribution "ONLY in Step 4(b)", should I be concerned about under-withholding? I'm nervous about owing money at tax time, which is why I was trying to be so careful with the W4 in the first place after overpaying last year. Also, is there a way to double-check that my withholding will be correct once I submit the updated W4 to my employer?

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@Alina Rosenthal Great questions! For your Traditional IRA contribution in Step 4 b(,)you shouldn t'worry about under-withholding as long as you re'entering the correct amount. The $9,500 deduction will actually reduce your taxable income, which means you ll'owe less tax overall - so having less withheld is actually the goal here. To double-check your withholding after submitting your updated W4, I d'recommend using a payroll calculator or tax withholding estimator to verify your numbers. You can also monitor your first few paychecks after the change to see if the withholding amount looks reasonable compared to your expected tax liability. Another safety net is to make quarterly estimated tax payments if you re'still concerned about owing at tax time. But honestly, if you overpaid last year and you re'now properly accounting for your IRA deduction, you should be in a much better position. The key is being conservative with your entries and not letting the buggy calculator add mysterious amounts to Step 3!

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Sasha Ivanov

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Congratulations on your amazing win, Abigail! šŸŽ® I completely understand your nervousness about the W-9 - it's such a smart instinct to be cautious when someone asks for your SSN, especially for your first major prize win. But everything you've described sounds totally legitimate! As someone who's navigated similar situations, I can confirm that the W-9 requirement is absolutely standard and required by federal law for any prize over $600. FusionTech Arena has to collect this info to send you (and the IRS) a 1099-MISC form reporting the prize value. Here's the really encouraging news for your situation: with only $500 in other income, your total taxable income would be around $4,500 for the year ($500 + $4,000 prize). Since the 2024 standard deduction for single filers is $14,600, your entire income - including the prize - would likely be covered by the standard deduction. This means you'd probably owe $0 in federal taxes! You'll still need to file a return next year to report the prize, but reporting it doesn't mean you'll owe tax on it when you're below the standard deduction threshold. My advice: go ahead and submit that W-9 through their secure portal (which sounds exactly right for a legitimate company), maybe set aside $100-150 for potential state taxes as a precaution, and get ready to enjoy an incredible gaming upgrade! Don't let tax anxiety cost you this amazing opportunity when the math is actually working in your favor.

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Thank you Sasha! Your response really helps reinforce everything I've been learning from this incredible community. It's so reassuring to see the same consistent message from everyone - that this is legitimate, the tax impact will be minimal for my situation, and I'd be missing out on an amazing opportunity if I let anxiety get the better of me. I actually already submitted my W-9 through their secure portal earlier today after reading through all the helpful responses here! I also set aside $200 as a buffer for any potential state taxes, though it sounds like even that might be more than I'll actually need based on everyone's experiences. What started as a panic about potentially owing thousands in taxes has turned into excitement about getting an incredible gaming setup for basically nothing (tax-wise). This community has been absolutely amazing in walking me through my first prize win - from explaining the legal requirements to breaking down the math on standard deductions. I went from being terrified to actually looking forward to filing my first tax return next year! Thanks again to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences. Can't wait to set up my new gaming rig! šŸŽ®āœØ

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Lucas Parker

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Hey Abigail! Congrats on your amazing win! šŸŽ‰ I can totally understand being nervous about filling out a W-9 - it's completely natural to feel cautious when someone asks for your SSN, especially for your first big prize win. But based on everything you've described, this sounds 100% legitimate! The W-9 requirement is actually mandated by federal law for any prize valued over $600, so FusionTech Arena has no choice but to collect this information. They need it to send both you and the IRS a 1099-MISC form reporting the prize value as taxable income. Here's the really great news for your specific situation though: with only $500 in other income from your summer job, your total taxable income for the year would be around $4,500 ($500 + $4,000 prize). The 2024 standard deduction for single filers is $14,600, which means your entire income - including this prize - would likely be covered by the standard deduction. You'll probably owe $0 in federal income tax! You'll still need to file a tax return next year to report the prize when you receive the 1099-MISC (they'll send it by January 31st), but reporting income doesn't automatically mean owing taxes on it when you're below the standard deduction threshold. My advice: go ahead and submit that W-9 through their secure portal (sounds like they're handling this properly), set aside maybe $100-200 for potential state taxes just to be safe, and enjoy your incredible gaming setup! Don't let tax anxiety cost you a $4,000 prize when the math is actually working very much in your favor as a low-income student.

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What happens if both people try to claim the mortgage interest? My gf and I split the mortgage payments (she's on the loan, I'm not), and her 1098 obviously shows the full interest amount. If I try to claim my portion as an "equitable owner" and she claims her portion, will that trigger problems?

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Yes, that would definitely raise flags with the IRS! The total amount claimed between both of you can't exceed what's on the 1098 form. You need to coordinate your tax filings. Each of you would need to file Form 8396 to show how the deduction is being split, and reference each other's tax IDs to make it clear you're not double-dipping.

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I've been following this thread closely since I'm in a very similar situation. One thing I want to add that hasn't been mentioned much is the importance of timing when creating your written agreement. While you don't need to backdate anything, I'd strongly recommend creating that ownership agreement ASAP before you file your taxes. The IRS looks favorably on contemporaneous documentation - meaning paperwork that exists at the time the situation is happening, not created after the fact when you're trying to justify a tax position. Also, make sure your agreement is specific about percentages. Don't just say "in exchange for mortgage payments, I have an ownership interest." Be clear: "In exchange for paying 100% of the mortgage payments, I am entitled to X% ownership interest in the property's equity." This specificity will help a lot if you ever get questioned. One last tip - consider having your girlfriend explicitly state on her tax return that she's NOT claiming the mortgage interest deduction because someone else (you) is claiming it as an equitable owner. This coordination between your returns shows the IRS you're not trying to hide anything.

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Ravi Sharma

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This is excellent advice about the timing and specificity of the agreement! I'm new to this community but dealing with the exact same situation. One quick question - when you mention having your girlfriend state on her return that she's NOT claiming the deduction, where exactly would she put that? Is there a specific form or just a written statement attached to her return? I want to make sure we coordinate this properly from the start to avoid any issues down the road.

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Omar Mahmoud

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I'm a tax professional and see this scenario frequently. Since you have sole ownership (deed in your name only), paid all the taxes from your personal account, and your divorce decree explicitly awards you the house and related tax benefits, your ex has absolutely no legal basis to claim those deductions. The IRS will require proof of both ownership AND payment. You have both - he has neither. Keep your documentation organized: the deed, divorce decree, and payment records (bank statements, canceled checks, etc.). If both of you claim the same deduction, the IRS computers will likely flag it and send correspondence to both parties requesting documentation. Respond promptly with your proof and his claim will be denied. Don't worry about filing first - just file correctly and let the system work. One tip: consider adding a brief explanatory statement to your return noting the divorce and that you're the sole owner/payor to help prevent any confusion during processing.

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This is exactly the kind of professional advice that's so helpful! I really appreciate the tip about adding an explanatory statement to my return. Should I include that statement as an attachment or is there a specific section where I should add it? Also, do you think I should send my ex a certified letter letting him know I'm aware of his attempt to claim the deduction, or is it better to just let the IRS handle it without any direct contact?

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Maya Patel

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For the explanatory statement, you can attach it as a separate sheet to your paper return or include it in the "Additional Information" section if filing electronically. Just a brief note like "Taxpayer is sole owner of property per divorce decree dated [date]. Ex-spouse has no ownership interest or payment responsibility." As for contacting your ex - I'd recommend against it. Direct contact could escalate the situation unnecessarily. Let the IRS handle it through their normal process. If he files an incorrect claim, the system will catch it when you both claim the same deduction, and the documentation will speak for itself. Keep things professional and let the facts do the talking. The most important thing is that you file your return correctly and keep your documentation organized. You're clearly in the right here based on ownership and payment records.

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NeonNova

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This is such a frustrating situation! I went through something similar during my divorce where my ex tried to claim deductions he wasn't entitled to. From what you've described, you're absolutely in the right here - you have sole ownership via the deed, you've been making all the payments from your personal account, and your divorce decree explicitly gives you the house and related benefits. I'd recommend keeping a file with all your key documents together: the deed showing only your name, your divorce decree (especially the section about the house), and all your property tax payment records from 2024. If the IRS flags both returns for review, having everything organized will make the resolution much faster. One thing that really helped me was getting a property tax payment history from my county assessor's office. It shows exactly who made each payment and when, which was ironclad proof when the IRS reviewed our case. Don't stress too much about this - the IRS deals with these post-divorce disputes all the time, and they're pretty good at sorting them out when the facts are clear. Just file your return correctly and keep your documentation handy. Your ex is going to have a very difficult time explaining why he thinks he can claim deductions on property he doesn't own and taxes he didn't pay!

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This is really helpful advice! I especially appreciate the suggestion about getting the property tax payment history from the county assessor - I hadn't thought of that but it sounds like bulletproof documentation. Did you have to pay anything for that records request, or was it free? Also, how long did it take to resolve your case once the IRS started reviewing both returns? I'm trying to prepare myself for potential delays in getting my refund if this becomes a bigger issue.

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Has anyone here used the QSE HRA (Qualified Small Employer Health Reimbursement Arrangement) option instead of COBRA? When I got laid off I started my own single-person LLC and set this up. It lets you reimburse yourself tax-free for health insurance premiums up to certain limits. Might be something to look into if you're self-employed now!

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Laila Prince

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I've never heard of this! Is it complicated to set up? And does it work better than just taking the self-employed health insurance deduction? I've been doing freelance work but just deducting my premiums the regular way.

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The QSE HRA can be more tax-efficient than the standard self-employed health insurance deduction in some cases. With a QSE HRA, you can reimburse yourself up to $6,150 per year (2024 limits) for individual coverage, and it's completely tax-free - no income tax or self-employment tax on the reimbursement. Setting it up requires formal documentation and you have to follow specific rules (like offering it to all eligible employees if you have any), but for a single-person LLC it's pretty straightforward. The reimbursements are also exempt from FICA taxes, which gives you an advantage over the regular deduction method. You'll want to consult with a tax professional to make sure you set it up correctly, but it can definitely be worth it if you're paying significant premiums. @Drew Hathaway - have you found any downsides to using the QSE HRA approach?

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Connor Byrne

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I went through a very similar situation last year - laid off and maintaining COBRA while doing freelance work. The key thing I learned is that the self-employed health insurance deduction can be a real lifesaver, but there are some important limitations to be aware of. First, you can only deduct up to the amount of your self-employment income. So if you paid $8,000 in COBRA premiums but only made $5,000 in freelance income, you can only deduct $5,000. Second, you cannot take this deduction for any months you were eligible for employer-sponsored coverage elsewhere (including a spouse's plan). This caught me off guard initially. For reducing self-employment tax, make sure you're tracking every legitimate business expense - office supplies, software subscriptions, business meals, mileage for client meetings, etc. Also remember that you can deduct half of your self-employment tax as an adjustment to income, which helps reduce your overall tax burden. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records throughout the year rather than trying to reconstruct everything at tax time. Save all your COBRA payment confirmations and any business-related receipts.

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This is really helpful, especially the point about only being able to deduct up to your self-employment income amount. I'm just starting to navigate this whole situation myself after being laid off recently. Quick question - when you say "eligible for employer-sponsored coverage elsewhere," does that include if your spouse has a plan available at their job but you're not actually enrolled in it? Or only if you're actually covered by it? I'm trying to figure out if I need to worry about this limitation. Also, did you find any good apps or tools for tracking all those business expenses throughout the year? I'm terrible at keeping receipts organized and I know I'm probably missing out on deductions because of it.

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