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19 Has your wife considered that the finance partner might be refusing these expenses because they're actually not legitimate business expenses? Just playing devil's advocate here. I've been in partnerships where one person thinks everything is a business expense when it's really more personal or questionable.

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1 That's a fair question. These are definitely legitimate - we're talking about industry conference registration fees, software subscriptions specifically for client work, and professional membership dues. All directly related to generating revenue for the business. The finance partner has openly said they're legitimate expenses but is limiting reimbursements due to "cash flow priorities.

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Alfredo Lugo

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This is a frustrating but unfortunately common situation with S Corps. The key point everyone has touched on is correct - the TCJA eliminated personal deductions for unreimbursed employee business expenses, and S Corp owners are treated as employees for this purpose. What I'd suggest is framing this as a business decision rather than a personal tax issue. Those legitimate expenses (conference fees, software, professional memberships) are reducing the company's overall profitability when they're not properly recorded. Even if cash flow prevents immediate reimbursement, the S Corp should at least book these as business expenses and liabilities owed to your wife. This way the business gets the deduction (reducing everyone's K-1 income), and your wife has a documented claim for future reimbursement when cash flow improves. The current approach is essentially forcing all partners to pay higher taxes on phantom income while legitimate business costs go unrecognized. Maybe approach the finance partner with a proposal: "Let's at least record these properly in the books as business expenses, even if we can't cut checks immediately." This protects everyone's tax situation while acknowledging the cash flow constraints.

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Mei Liu

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This is excellent advice! I hadn't thought about framing it as protecting everyone's tax situation rather than just helping my wife. The idea of booking the expenses as liabilities makes a lot of sense - the business still gets the deduction benefit even without immediate cash outlay. I think our finance partner would be more receptive to this approach since it acknowledges the cash flow concerns while still handling the expenses properly from a tax perspective. Do you know if there are any specific accounting requirements for how these liability entries should be recorded?

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Laura Lopez

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I'm currently going through this exact same situation and this thread has been a lifesaver! My transcript updated three days ago with code 846 and a refund date for this coming Monday, but WMR is still stuck on "processing" which has had me refreshing both constantly. Based on all the incredibly detailed information shared here, I've gone through the verification checklist: I only see the 846 code with no 841 or offset codes āœ“, my banking information was correct when filed āœ“, I called my bank and confirmed my account is in good standing āœ“, and I logged back into my tax software which shows direct deposit was selected with the right account details āœ“. The automated hotline tip (1-800-829-1954) has been really helpful too - I called yesterday and got confirmation of the same refund date as my transcript, which seems like a positive sign based on what others have shared. As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by how much technical knowledge everyone has shared about transcript codes, banking verification processes, and IRS procedures that you just can't find explained clearly anywhere else. The 3-deposit annual limit, the difference between code 846 and 841, the typical WMR update timeline - all of this has been invaluable for understanding what to expect. The waiting really is nerve-wracking when you're budgeting around that refund, but reading all these success stories from people with similar code patterns has given me so much more confidence. I'll definitely update everyone once my refund hits on Monday to add another data point to this amazing collection of experiences. Thank you to this community for making such a stressful process so much more manageable!

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@Laura Lopez Welcome to the community! Your systematic approach to verification is exactly what I d'recommend to anyone in this situation. It sounds like you ve'covered all the bases - the right codes, correct banking info, account verification, and even the automated hotline confirmation. That s'a really comprehensive check! As someone who s'been following this thread closely, your situation sounds very promising for direct deposit. Monday refund dates are common and reliable, so you should be all set. It s'incredible how much collective knowledge this community has shared - I ve'learned more about IRS processes from this one thread than from anywhere else! The waiting game is definitely the hardest part, but based on all the success stories here from people with your exact pattern, I m'confident you ll'get your direct deposit as scheduled. Looking forward to your positive update on Monday!

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Grace Patel

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This thread has been absolutely incredible to read through! I'm a newcomer to this community and currently in the exact same boat - my transcript updated yesterday with code 846 and a refund date for next Thursday, but WMR is still showing "processing." Reading through everyone's detailed experiences has been so educational and reassuring. I had no idea about things like code 841 indicating paper checks, the 3-deposit annual limit, or how banking verification failures could trigger automatic switches to paper checks. This is the kind of technical knowledge you just can't find anywhere else! Like many others here, I've gone through the verification checklist: only seeing code 846 with no 841 or offset codes āœ“, banking information was correct when filed āœ“, called my bank to confirm account is in good standing āœ“, and even logged back into my tax software which confirms direct deposit was selected. One additional thing I wanted to mention - I work in IT and I've noticed that some banks actually update their online portals more frequently than others. For anyone obsessively checking like me, I've found that logging out and back into my bank account sometimes shows more current pending transaction information than just refreshing the page. The automated hotline at 1-800-829-1954 that several people mentioned is definitely worth calling for that extra peace of mind. I tried it this morning and getting the same refund date as my transcript was reassuring. The waiting really is the most stressful part when you're depending on that money for bills and rent! But this community's collective wisdom has made me feel so much more confident about what to expect. I'll absolutely update everyone once my refund hits next Thursday. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences - it makes such a difference for us newcomers navigating this process!

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Does anyone know if California requires a separate state extension for S Corps? I filed the federal 7004 but now I'm worried I missed something for state.

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Malia Ponder

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California automatically grants a 6-month extension for filing S Corporation returns (Form 100S). You don't need to file a separate extension request form as long as you file your return by the extended due date. BUT if your S Corp owes any tax (like the $800 minimum franchise tax), that payment isn't extended - it would still be due by the original deadline.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago with my S Corp - the stress is real! A few additional tips that helped me beyond what others have mentioned: 1. Don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments. Even with extensions, if you and your partner expect to owe taxes personally from the S Corp income, you'll still need to make your Q1 2025 estimated payment by April 15th to avoid underpayment penalties. 2. Consider setting up a simple bookkeeping system now while you're dealing with this. I used QuickBooks Online for S Corps, and it made the following year's tax prep so much easier. The pass-through nature of S Corps means you need good records for your personal returns too. 3. If your business had losses this year (which it sounds like it might have), those losses can offset other income on your personal returns, which could actually help reduce your tax liability. Make sure your tax preparer or software accounts for this properly. The first year is always the hardest - you're not alone in feeling overwhelmed. Once you get through this extension process, consider setting up quarterly check-ins with a CPA who specializes in small business. It's worth the investment for peace of mind.

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Beth Ford

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This is incredibly helpful, especially the point about quarterly estimated payments! I had no idea we still needed to make the Q1 payment even with the extension. Quick question - since our S Corp had significant losses this year due to losing those major clients, how exactly do those losses flow through to our personal returns? Do we just report our share of the losses on our individual 1040s, or is there a specific form we need to use? I want to make sure we're taking advantage of any tax benefits from what's been a really tough year financially.

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Zainab Ali

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This is such a comprehensive thread with excellent advice! I went through something very similar when my employer switched payroll systems earlier this year. My federal withholding jumped from about $195 to $290 per paycheck, and like many others here, I initially thought it would resolve itself. The W-4 data migration issue is incredibly common - in my case, the system had changed my filing status from "Married Filing Jointly" to "Single" and reset my dependents to zero. That single change was responsible for the entire withholding increase. What worked for me was taking screenshots of both my old and new pay stubs (focusing on the tax withholding breakdown), then emailing them to our payroll department with a clear explanation of the discrepancy. They were able to fix my W-4 information within 24 hours and adjusted my next two paychecks to account for the over-withholding from the previous month. For anyone still dealing with this: don't wait! Every paycheck you delay is money you're essentially loaning to the government interest-free. Most payroll teams are experienced with migration issues and can resolve them quickly once they have the proper documentation. The key is being proactive and providing clear evidence of the problem. This thread should honestly be bookmarked by anyone whose company is about to undergo a payroll system change. The patterns and solutions are remarkably consistent across everyone's experiences.

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This whole thread has been incredibly enlightening! As someone who's never experienced a payroll system migration before, I had no idea how common these W-4 data transfer issues are. The consistency in everyone's stories is remarkable - it seems like almost every migration results in filing status getting reset to "Single with zero dependents." What really stands out to me is how proactive communication with payroll departments seems to be the key to quick resolution. Your experience of getting it fixed within 24 hours and receiving retroactive adjustments gives me confidence that these aren't insurmountable problems, just frustrating administrative hiccups that need proper documentation to resolve. I'm bookmarking this thread for future reference - not just for myself, but to share with colleagues if they ever face similar issues. The step-by-step advice about taking screenshots, comparing old vs new pay stubs, and specifically asking about retroactive adjustments is invaluable. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions here!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding payroll migration issues! As someone whose company is planning to switch systems next month, I'm definitely going to be proactive about checking my W-4 information immediately after the first paycheck. The pattern everyone's described - federal withholding jumping from around 12% to 18% due to filing status defaulting to "Single with zero dependents" - seems almost universal with these system changes. It's honestly shocking that payroll systems don't have better safeguards to prevent this kind of data loss during migrations. I'm taking notes on the key steps everyone's recommended: 1. Take screenshots of pay stubs before AND after the migration for comparison 2. Check W-4 information in the new system immediately (filing status, dependents, additional withholding) 3. Contact payroll with documentation if there are discrepancies 4. Ask specifically about retroactive adjustments for migration errors The emphasis on acting quickly rather than hoping it resolves itself is really important. Several people mentioned losing hundreds of dollars over multiple pay periods by waiting, which is essentially giving the government an interest-free loan. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical advice that can save people a lot of money and frustration!

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Just wanted to add my experience here since I went through this exact situation a few months ago. I received an airbag settlement check for $980 and was completely confused about the tax implications. The settlement documentation that came with my check was pretty vague, so I ended up calling the administrator directly. It took a few tries to get through (their phone system is terrible), but when I finally spoke to someone, they explained that my settlement had three components: 1. Reimbursement for the repair work that was done ($420 - not taxable) 2. Compensation for diminished vehicle value ($360 - taxable) 3. Payment for inconvenience and potential safety risk ($200 - taxable) Since my total was under $600, they said I wouldn't receive a 1099 form, but I should still report the taxable portions ($560 total) on my return. They sent me an email breakdown which was super helpful for my tax filing. One thing I learned is that even if you don't get a 1099, you're still supposed to report taxable settlement income. Better to be safe than sorry with the IRS! If you're unsure about any part of your settlement, definitely call the administrator - they're used to these questions and can usually give you the breakdown you need.

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Norah Quay

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This breakdown is super helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my settlement check. Quick question - when you reported the taxable portions on your return, did you just add the $560 as "other income" or did you have to specify somewhere that it was from a settlement? I want to make sure I'm doing this right and not missing any required details that might trigger questions later.

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I've been following this thread closely since I'm dealing with a similar situation. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like the key is getting proper documentation from the settlement administrator about what the payment covers. For those struggling to reach the administrator by phone, I'd suggest trying early morning calls (right when they open) or late afternoon - I've found government and settlement offices are often less busy during those times. Also, if you have the settlement case number or your claim number handy, that usually speeds up the process when you do get through. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're planning to use a tax preparer, bring all your settlement documentation with you. My tax guy said these types of settlements are becoming more common and most preparers are familiar with how to handle them properly. The documentation from the administrator showing the breakdown between taxable and non-taxable portions is crucial for accurate filing. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here - this has been really educational and has given me a much clearer path forward for handling my own settlement check!

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This is such a helpful thread! I just received my airbag settlement check yesterday and was completely lost about how to handle it tax-wise. Reading through everyone's experiences has been really reassuring - it sounds like as long as I get the proper breakdown from the settlement administrator, I should be able to figure out what's taxable vs. not. Your tip about calling early morning or late afternoon is great - I'll definitely try that. I was dreading spending hours on hold, but it sounds like it's worth the effort to get that documentation rather than just guessing about the tax treatment. One quick question for the group - for those who did get through to the administrator, about how long did it take them to send you the written breakdown after your call? I want to make sure I give myself enough time before I need to file my taxes.

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