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This is exactly why these misconceptions persist - people hear about the "6,000 lb rule" and think it's a magic bullet for tax savings! Your partners are mixing up old information with current rules. Yes, Section 179 applies to vehicles over 6,000 lbs GVWR, but as others mentioned, SUVs have that $28,900 cap for 2025. The key thing they're missing is that this only applies if the vehicle is used MORE than 50% for business. Before anyone makes a $78k purchase decision, here are the real questions you need to answer: 1. Will this Escalade truly be used more than 50% for business? (Personal commuting doesn't count) 2. Can you document and justify this business use? 3. Does your consulting firm actually NEED a luxury SUV for legitimate business purposes? The IRS scrutinizes luxury vehicle deductions heavily. If you can't show clear business necessity and proper usage documentation, you're setting yourself up for an audit. A $78k vehicle purchase to save maybe $10-15k in taxes (assuming legitimate business use) doesn't make financial sense for most small businesses. Wait for your accountant to return and get proper advice before making any major purchases!
This is such solid advice! I'm a newcomer here but I've been following this thread because I'm in a similar situation with my small marketing agency. My business partner keeps pushing for us to buy a big SUV for "client meetings" but honestly, most of our clients are virtual these days. The part about documenting business necessity really hit home - I think a lot of small business owners (myself included) sometimes get caught up in the tax savings potential without thinking through whether the expense actually makes sense for the business. A $78k vehicle is a huge cash outlay that could be used for so many other growth investments. Thanks for breaking down those key questions - I'm definitely going to use that framework when we revisit this discussion. Better to be conservative and keep good records than to get creative and risk an audit!
As someone who just went through this exact scenario with my consulting firm last year, I can't stress enough how important it is to get proper professional advice before making any large vehicle purchases based on tax benefits. We almost made the same mistake your partners are pushing for - buying a luxury SUV thinking we could write off the entire cost. Thankfully our CPA stopped us and explained the real rules. The $28,900 Section 179 limit for SUVs is very real, and the business use requirements are strictly enforced. What really opened my eyes was when our accountant showed us the math: even with legitimate 75% business use, we'd only save about $21,675 in taxes (75% of $28,900 limit). That's nowhere near enough savings to justify a $78,000 purchase! Plus, we'd still be on the hook for the remaining $49,100+ that couldn't be deducted. The IRS has closed most of the vehicle loopholes that existed years ago. Your instinct to wait for your accountant is absolutely right - don't let anyone pressure you into a major financial decision based on outdated or misunderstood tax advice. A good CPA will help you find legitimate tax strategies that actually make sense for your business size and cash flow.
This is incredibly helpful perspective from someone who actually went through this decision process! The math you laid out really drives home the point - saving $21,675 on a $78k purchase is basically a 28% "discount" at best, which isn't nearly as compelling as the "write off the whole thing" narrative that gets thrown around. What really resonates with me is your point about cash flow. Even if you could somehow justify the full business use (which sounds nearly impossible for most consulting firms), you're still tying up almost $80k in a depreciating asset instead of investing that money in growing the actual business - better technology, additional staff, marketing, etc. Did you end up purchasing a different vehicle, or did you realize the business didn't actually need one at all? I'm curious how you approached the transportation needs once you got past the tax benefit fixation.
Has anyone dealt with address issues after moving? I'm worried because I moved after filing and didn't update my address with the IRS before they might have sent the check.
Set up mail forwarding with USPS immediately if you haven't already! I was in the same situation, and the mail forwarding caught my tax refund check and sent it to my new address. Takes like 5 minutes to set up online and works for all government mail.
Thanks for the suggestion! Just set up the mail forwarding online. Fingers crossed it works for the tax refund if they send a check.
I went through this exact same situation last year! The "Where's My Refund" tool is notoriously unhelpful when it comes to rejected direct deposits - it often shows the refund as "sent" even when the bank has already returned it to the IRS. Here's what typically happens: When your bank rejects the deposit (which they definitely would for a closed account), they send the funds back to the IRS within 1-2 business days. The IRS then has to process the returned funds and issue a paper check, which usually takes 2-3 weeks from the date of the rejected deposit. Since your refund shows as deposited on February 15th, I'd expect your bank rejected it around February 16th-17th, meaning your paper check was likely issued around early March. You should be receiving it any day now if you haven't already! One thing to double-check: make sure the mailing address on your tax return is current. If you moved and used your new address on the return, you should be fine. If not, definitely set up mail forwarding with USPS just in case. Don't panic - your money isn't lost! The IRS is just slow to update their systems when these situations occur.
This is really helpful information! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now where my refund shows as "sent" but I know my account was closed. It's reassuring to know this is a common issue and that the money isn't just lost in the system. Quick question - when you say the paper check was issued around early March, do you mean that's when it was actually mailed out, or when it was processed internally? I'm trying to figure out if I should expect mine this week or if it might take a bit longer. Thanks for breaking down the timeline so clearly!
When I say "issued around early March," I mean that's typically when the IRS processes the returned deposit and cuts the actual paper check - so it would be mailed out around that timeframe. From my experience, once the check is issued/mailed, it usually takes another 5-10 business days to actually arrive depending on your location and mail delivery times. So if your situation mirrors the original poster's timeline (refund showing as deposited Feb 15th), you'd be looking at the check being mailed sometime in the first week of March, which means you should definitely expect it this week or early next week at the latest. One tip: if it's been more than 4 weeks since your refund showed as "sent" and you still haven't received a paper check, that's when I'd recommend calling the IRS directly to check on the status. But based on typical processing times, you should be seeing it very soon!
It might be worth asking your grandparents to spread out larger gifts if they're planning to give you more than the annual limit. My parents paid off $25,000 of my loans in one year and had to file a gift tax form even though they didn't owe any actual tax!
Did your parents end up having to file a special form or anything? My mom wants to help with my loans but is worried about "paperwork headaches" as she calls it, lol.
Yes, they had to file Form 709 (Gift Tax Return) because they exceeded the $18,000 annual exclusion limit in one year. The good news is that filing the form doesn't mean they owed any taxes - it just counted against their lifetime gift and estate tax exemption (which is over $13 million per person). The form itself wasn't too complicated, but it did require them to report the gift and keep records. Your mom might want to consider spreading larger gifts across multiple years to avoid the paperwork entirely. For example, if she wants to give $30,000 total, she could give $15,000 this year and $15,000 next year to stay under the annual limits.
This is such helpful information for anyone dealing with family help on student loans! One thing I'd add is to make sure your grandparents are aware that the $18,000 annual exclusion is per recipient, per giver. So if they're also helping other grandchildren with education expenses, they need to track all their gifts to stay under the limits for each person. Also, it's worth keeping simple records of the payments even though you don't need to report them - just in case the IRS ever has questions down the road. A simple spreadsheet showing dates and amounts should be sufficient. Your loan servicer statements will also show where the payments came from, which provides good documentation. You're really fortunate to have such generous grandparents! This kind of help can save you thousands in interest over the life of the loans.
This is such great advice about keeping records! I'm just starting to navigate this whole situation and hadn't thought about the documentation aspect. Quick question - when you mention tracking gifts to multiple recipients, does that mean if my grandparents help both me and my sister with our loans, they could potentially give us each up to $18,000 per year without any reporting requirements? That would be amazing if true! Also, totally agree about how fortunate I am. I know not everyone has family who can help like this, and I'm trying to make sure I handle it properly so I don't waste their generosity on avoidable tax issues.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat with my small jewelry business and was completely overwhelmed by the tax implications. One thing I wanted to add that I learned the hard way - make sure you understand the difference between gross revenue and net profit when calculating those tax estimates. I initially panicked thinking I'd owe taxes on my full $8k in sales, but after deducting all my materials, booth fees, travel expenses, and those card processing fees, my actual taxable profit was only about $3k. Also, for anyone using Square or similar mobile readers - they provide really nice year-end reports that break down all your fees and sales by month. Super helpful for tax prep! I wish I'd known to enable that feature from day one instead of trying to piece everything together from individual transaction emails. The 25-30% savings rule mentioned above is solid advice. I started with 30% and ended up with a nice little buffer that I rolled into my business expansion fund. Much better than scrambling to find tax money in April!
This is such a great point about gross revenue vs net profit! I was making the same mistake initially and getting stressed about owing way more than I actually would. The Square year-end reports tip is gold - I'm definitely going to set that up right away. I've been manually tracking everything in a spreadsheet but having that automated breakdown would save so much time and reduce errors. Your experience with the 30% savings rate giving you a buffer is really encouraging. I was leaning toward the conservative side anyway since this is all new to me, and knowing it can create a little business expansion fund makes it feel less like money just sitting there doing nothing. Quick question - when you calculated that $3k taxable profit, did you also deduct things like mileage to craft shows and a portion of your home workspace? I'm trying to make sure I'm not missing any legitimate deductions that could further reduce that tax burden.
As a CPA who works with a lot of small craft businesses, I wanted to chime in with some official guidance that might help clarify things! For your situation with expected revenue of $6-8k, starting as a sole proprietorship (self-employed) is definitely the right move. The LLC decision can wait until you're more established. A few key points that haven't been fully covered: **Regarding those mobile payment fees:** Yes, they're 100% deductible as business expenses on Schedule C, Line 10 (fees and commissions). Keep good records of all processing fees - they add up quickly! **Self-employment tax reality check:** Remember you'll owe both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (15.3%) on your net profit. So if you profit $6k, expect roughly $918 in SE tax alone, plus regular income tax at your bracket rate. **Quarterly payments:** The $1,000 threshold mentioned earlier is correct, but there's a safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability through withholding/quarterlies, you won't owe penalties even if you underpay the current year. **Business bank account:** Even as sole proprietor, get a separate business checking account. Makes record-keeping infinitely easier and looks more professional to the IRS if you're ever audited. The tax situation really isn't as scary as it seems once you get organized. Focus on good record-keeping from day one - that's 90% of the battle!
Fatima Al-Sayed
Anyone know if short term disability payments affect other tax things like the Earned Income Credit? I was on STD for 3 months last year and my tax software is showing a lower credit than I usually get.
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Dylan Hughes
ā¢Short term disability payments are NOT considered earned income for the Earned Income Tax Credit. This is why your credit amount is lower - you had less "earned income" during the months you received disability instead of regular wages.
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Carmen Reyes
This is such a confusing area of tax law! I went through something similar when my wife was on short-term disability after our baby was born. The key thing I learned is that it ALL depends on how the premiums were paid. If your husband paid the premiums with after-tax dollars (meaning they came out of his paycheck AFTER taxes were taken out), then the benefits should NOT be taxable at all, regardless of what the check stubs say. But if the employer paid the premiums or if they were paid with pre-tax dollars through a cafeteria plan, then yes, they're fully taxable. The fact that they only withheld Social Security and Medicare taxes but not federal income tax is actually a red flag to me - it suggests the insurance company might not be clear on the tax treatment either. I'd recommend calling your husband's HR department first to confirm exactly how the disability premiums were paid. Get it in writing if possible. Then contact the insurance company with that information to make sure they're reporting the payments correctly for tax purposes. As for forms, you'll likely get either a 1099-MISC or it might be included on his regular W-2 if the employer processed the payments through payroll.
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Amara Okafor
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now. My employer offers short-term disability but I'm not even sure if I'm paying the premiums pre-tax or after-tax - it's just automatically deducted from my paycheck. How can you tell from looking at your paystub whether the premiums are being paid with pre-tax or after-tax dollars? Is there a specific way it would be labeled or categorized on the stub? I want to make sure I understand this before I ever need to use the benefit, so I don't get caught off guard like the original poster did.
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