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Think of withholding like making payments on a fixed-price car throughout the year. Whether you pay $100 every month or $1200 all at once in December, the car still costs $1200. Your tax liability is like that fixed price - it's calculated based on your income, filing status, credits, etc. The timing of when you pay doesn't change the final amount due. What likely happened is that other factors in your tax situation changed between years (maybe different deductions, credits, or slightly different income) that offset any difference from your withholding pattern.
I had this same situation when I switched jobs mid-year. At my old job, I had minimal withholding, and at my new job, I had much higher withholding. But my refund was almost identical to the previous year. When I compared my returns side by side, I noticed my total tax liability was almost the same both years, so the refund was similar too. It's like comparing two different routes to the same destination - you still end up in the same place regardless of how you got there. You need to check this ASAP though since tax season is wrapping up and you want to make any withholding adjustments for this year before too much of 2024 passes!
File 2022 separately. No amendments needed. Each tax year stands alone. Use tax software that handles prior years. Print and mail if necessary. Include your notice number. Keep copies of everything. Expect 6-8 weeks processing time. Your 2023 refund will be released after 2022 is processed. No further action needed typically.
I just went through this! The process is actually pretty straightforward: ⢠You need to file 2022 as a completely separate return ⢠You CANNOT amend your 2023 return to include 2022 information ⢠The IRS processes each tax year independently ⢠Once your 2022 return is processed, they should automatically release your 2023 refund ⢠You might need to pay a late filing penalty for 2022, even if you're due a refund I had no idea the IRS automatically held current refunds for unfiled prior years! The tax system is way more interconnected than I realized.
One tip our community doesn't share enough: the IRS has different phone numbers for different issues! It's like everyone's trying to go through the same door when there's actually a dozen entrances. š If you're dealing with: - Identity theft: 800-908-4490 - Tax forms: 800-829-3676 - Installment agreements: 800-829-1040 I've found that using the specific number cuts wait time by half. Also, don't forget to have a good book ready while you wait... War and Peace should be about the right length!
Has anyone tried the Taxpayer Advocate Service? I've heard mixed things abt their effectiveness lately. My CPA mentioned they're super backed up too, but might be worth a shot for complicated issues that reg IRS reps can't solve?
The Taxpayer Advocate Service can help, but they have specific criteria for accepting cases. They generally only take cases where: 1) You're experiencing significant hardship, 2) You've already tried normal IRS channels, or 3) There's a systemic issue affecting many taxpayers. They're not a faster way to get regular service, but they can help when you're truly stuck.
I'm so grateful for the TAS! They saved me last year when I had a refund stuck in processing for 9 months! I was about to lose my apartment because I was counting on that money. The advocate I worked with was amazing - she felt my pain and worked through all the red tape that regular agents couldn't handle. It took about 3 weeks from my first contact with them until my issue was resolved!
This ID verification system has been a nightmare for so many people this year. Last month, I was in the same boat - couldn't verify through the online system no matter what I tried. I finally got through on the phone after calling the dedicated ID Verify line (not the main IRS line) at exactly 7:00am when they opened. My return went to pending for about 10 days, then processed. I'm concerned that yours has been pending for a couple weeks already - that might indicate they found something else they want to review after confirming your identity.
Have you checked if you have any holds on your account? Sometimes verification clears one issue but reveals another. I've seen cases where people pass ID verification but then discover they have offset indicators or income verification issues. Might be worth looking into that possibility?
The 5071C letter process has changed significantly this year. New security measures implemented. Stricter verification standards. Higher fraud prevention focus. Check your mail daily. They might send a follow-up 5747C letter. That requires in-person verification at a TAC office. Appointments booking 6-8 weeks out currently. Schedule immediately if received.
Nina Chan
Isn't it interesting how the IRS can instantly accept our returns but then can't show us where they are in the process? One would think that in 2024, with all our technological advances, a simple tracking system wouldn't be too much to ask for. The collective wisdom here seems to be patience, but shouldn't we expect better from a system we're all required to use? Many private companies offer real-time tracking for packages worth $20, yet we can't track our thousands in tax refunds without playing guessing games.
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Ruby Knight
Just to clarify - are you checking the Account Transcript or the Return Transcript? They're different. Account Transcript shows all activity including refund info. Return Transcript just shows what you filed. Also make sure you're selecting 2024 and not 2023 tax year when requesting it.
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