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OMG this EXACT thing happened to me!!! ๐ค The IRS verification system is SO broken this year! I'm seeing this issue EVERYWHERE in tax groups. Here's what works: IGNORE the message disappearing and verify anyway! The verification requirement is still in their system even if it's not showing up. I was freaking out when this happened but verified with my control number anyway and got my refund 11 days later! Don't wait for the message to reappear because it probably won't. Trust me on this one! ๐ฏ
I can relate to this frustration - it's like the IRS is playing hide and seek with important notices! Based on what others have shared here, it seems the verification requirement is still active even when the message disappears from your account. Since you have the physical letter with the control number, I'd recommend proceeding with verification rather than waiting. You can go directly to idverify.irs.gov or call 800-830-5084 to complete the process. It's better to verify and potentially do it unnecessarily than to let your refund get held up for months. The consensus from everyone's experiences here seems to be that the system glitch is cosmetic - the verification hold is still there behind the scenes.
Thanks for the clear advice! As someone new to the US tax system, this whole verification process has been pretty confusing. It's reassuring to see so many people have dealt with this same issue successfully. I think I'll follow your suggestion and proceed with the verification using my control number rather than waiting around. Better safe than sorry, especially since everyone seems to agree the requirement is still active even when the message disappears. Really appreciate how helpful this community has been!
Does anyone know if using TurboTax or H&R Block online helps with this situation? I moved states too and still have my old license.
I was in a similar situation last year when I moved from Texas to Colorado and was worried about the same thing! Here's what I learned: for federal taxes, your driver's license number isn't even required - the IRS only cares about your SSN. For state taxes, most states have workarounds for people who haven't updated their licenses yet. However, I'd strongly recommend getting your new state license ASAP regardless of taxes. I got pulled over for a minor traffic violation about 8 months after moving and the officer was not happy that I hadn't updated my license within the required 30-day window. Ended up with an additional fine on top of the original ticket. The tax filing worked out fine with my old license, but the DMV compliance issue was definitely a headache I could have avoided!
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's exactly the kind of real-world insight I needed to hear. I've been putting off the license update because the DMV lines here are insane, but you're absolutely right - better to deal with the hassle now than potentially face fines later. Did you have to pay both the fine for the traffic violation AND an additional penalty for the outdated license, or was it just one combined fee?
This discussion has been incredibly enlightening! I'm actually dealing with a very similar situation - my aunt provided me with a private mortgage when I bought my condo last year, and we've both been confused about the tax implications. Reading through all these experiences, I feel much more confident about how to handle this. The key points I'm taking away are: 1. My aunt doesn't need to provide me with a 1098 form since she's not in the mortgage business 2. I can still claim the mortgage interest deduction with proper documentation 3. She needs to report the interest income on her Schedule B 4. We should both maintain detailed records and consider creating a substitute year-end statement I'm particularly grateful for Grace's professional insights about the imputed interest rules - that's something I hadn't even considered. Our interest rate is fairly close to market rates, so hopefully that won't be an issue, but it's good to know about. One question I have for the group: has anyone dealt with making extra principal payments on a private mortgage? I'm trying to pay down the balance faster, but I want to make sure I'm properly tracking what portion of my payments goes to interest versus principal for tax purposes. Should I be asking my aunt to provide me with an amortization schedule, or is there a simpler way to track this? Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these complex situations!
Great question about tracking extra principal payments! I've been in a similar situation with my family mortgage for the past few years, and proper tracking is definitely important for both tax and record-keeping purposes. The simplest approach is to create a basic amortization schedule that you both use. You can find free amortization calculators online where you input your loan amount, interest rate, and term - this will show you the scheduled principal and interest breakdown for each payment. Then, when you make extra principal payments, just note those separately as "additional principal." I keep a simple spreadsheet with columns for: payment date, scheduled payment amount, scheduled interest, scheduled principal, extra principal payment, and total principal paid. This way, both you and your aunt have the same records, and you know exactly how much interest you paid for tax deduction purposes. Since you're making extra payments, the interest portion will actually decrease faster than the original schedule shows, so it's important that your aunt calculates the actual interest based on the outstanding balance each month rather than following a fixed schedule. Most people just calculate it as: (outstanding balance ร annual rate รท 12 months). Having matching records between both parties really helps keep everything transparent and organized!
This has been such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who just went through this exact situation with my grandmother's private mortgage, I wanted to add one more perspective that might be helpful. We encountered an interesting wrinkle that I haven't seen mentioned yet - the state tax implications. While everyone's been focused on federal tax requirements (which is absolutely the main concern), some states have their own reporting requirements or treat private mortgages differently for state income tax purposes. In our case, my state follows federal rules pretty closely, but I discovered that my grandmother's state (she lives in a different state) had some additional documentation requirements for reporting the interest income. Nothing major, but it required a specific form that we almost missed. I'd recommend anyone in a private mortgage situation check both federal AND state requirements, especially if the lender and borrower live in different states. Most states follow federal guidelines, but there can be small variations that are worth knowing about. Also, echoing what others have said about record-keeping - we created a shared Google Sheet that both of us can access with all payment details, running balances, and interest calculations. This has been incredibly helpful for staying on the same page throughout the year rather than scrambling to piece everything together at tax time. The peace of mind from having everything properly documented and both parties understanding their obligations has been worth the extra effort!
I've been following this discussion as someone who recently went through payroll training, and I wanted to add that your HR person's resistance might also stem from not understanding how dramatically the tax landscape changed with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The new W-4 wasn't just a cosmetic update - it was a complete redesign to work with the new tax brackets, standard deduction amounts, and credit structures. For your specific situation (married with three kids claiming child tax credits), the difference between old and new withholding calculations could be hundreds of dollars per month. The old allowances system literally cannot accurately calculate withholding for the current tax code. I'd suggest bringing her the IRS's "Employer's Guide to Federal Income Tax Withholding" (Publication 15-T) which explicitly states that employers must accept the redesigned form. You could frame it as "I found this official guidance that might help us both feel confident we're handling this correctly." Since you mentioned you work directly with her daughter-in-law, maybe even mention that you want to make sure everything is done properly so there are no awkward family discussions if your withholding ends up being way off! Sometimes personal connections can help motivate people to learn new procedures.
@Admin_Masters this is such valuable insight about how the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act fundamentally changed everything! I hadn't really thought about it from that angle - that the new W-4 isn't just a different version of the same thing, but actually designed for a completely different tax system. That context might help explain to my HR person why the old form literally can't work properly anymore. Your point about the hundreds of dollars per month difference is eye-opening. I knew I was getting big refunds, but I hadn't calculated what that means in terms of monthly cash flow for my family. With three kids, that extra money each month could make a real difference in our budget instead of sitting with the IRS all year. I love the suggestion about framing it around family dynamics too - you're so right that having incorrect withholding could create awkward conversations! "Hey, I want to make sure we handle this properly so there are no surprises that might spill over into family gatherings" is a much gentler way to approach it than pointing out compliance issues. Publication 15-T sounds like exactly the kind of official documentation I need to bring to make this feel less personal and more procedural. Thanks for all these practical suggestions - this gives me a really solid foundation for the conversation!
I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and advice on this thread! After reading through all the responses, I feel much more prepared to have this conversation with my HR person. The key insights that stood out to me are: 1. Framing it as a collaborative learning experience rather than pointing out what she's doing wrong 2. Focusing on the accuracy benefits for my specific family situation (married with three kids claiming child tax credits) 3. Emphasizing how this will help me get the right amount of money in my paychecks instead of huge refunds 4. Bringing official IRS documentation (like Publication 15-T) to make it feel procedural rather than personal 5. Documenting my attempts to submit the correct form in case there are issues later I think the approach of saying something like "I found this helpful information that shows why the new form will be more accurate for our family situation - would you mind looking at it with me?" strikes the right tone. Since we have a good relationship, I want to preserve that while still getting my withholding handled correctly. I'm planning to meet with her early next week armed with the IRS guidance, a side-by-side comparison showing the difference for my situation, and my properly completed new W-4. Hopefully we can work through this together and both feel confident about the accuracy of my withholding going forward. Thanks again everyone - this community is amazing for providing such thoughtful and practical advice!
@Santiago this is such a great summary of all the advice in this thread! I'm actually in a similar situation myself - just started a new job and realized my HR department might not be up to date on the current W-4 requirements either. Reading through everyone's experiences has been really enlightening. Your plan sounds perfect, especially the collaborative approach. I think that's so much more effective than making someone feel like they're doing something wrong. The documentation aspect is smart too - I never would have thought about keeping records of submitting the correct form, but it makes total sense from a protection standpoint. One thing I'm curious about - have you already calculated what the difference would be in your monthly take-home using the new form versus what you're getting now? It sounds like with three kids and the child tax credits, it could be pretty substantial. That might be a really compelling way to show your HR person the practical impact of using the updated system. Good luck with your meeting next week! I hope she's receptive to learning the new process together. It sounds like you've got all the right materials and the perfect approach to make this work out well for both of you.
Cassandra Moon
As a fellow nanny who went through this exact confusion, I want to emphasize something really important that got buried in all the discussion about tools and classification: **start keeping detailed records NOW** regardless of how your taxes end up being filed. Track your mileage when driving kids to activities, save receipts for any supplies you buy, and document your CPR certification costs. Even if you can't deduct these as a W-2 employee, having this documentation serves multiple purposes: 1. You can present organized expense reports to your family and ask for reimbursements (which aren't taxable income to you) 2. If there's ever a question about your work classification, detailed records help prove the business nature of your expenses 3. Some states do still allow certain deductions that federal doesn't The key conversation to have with your family is setting up a proper reimbursement system. Most families are happy to reimburse legitimate work expenses - they just need you to present it professionally with receipts and clear explanations of how each expense relates to your job duties. Don't let the tax classification confusion prevent you from getting fairly compensated for legitimate work expenses!
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Paolo Ricci
โขThis is such solid advice! I wish someone had told me this when I started. I've been tracking everything in a simple spreadsheet - date, expense type, amount, and what it was for (like "craft supplies for art project with kids" or "mileage to soccer practice"). Even though I'm classified as W-2, my family has been great about reimbursing me once I started presenting them with organized monthly expense reports. It's actually made our working relationship better because they can see exactly what I'm spending on their kids and appreciate that I'm being transparent about it. One thing I'd add - take photos of receipts right away! I've lost so many paper receipts and it's frustrating when you're trying to get reimbursed later. Most phones have built-in document scanners now that work really well for this.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
As a tax professional who works with many household employees, I want to add some clarity to this discussion. The original poster's situation is very common, and there are some key points that will help: First, determine your correct classification. Most nannies working regularly for one family should be W-2 employees, not 1099 contractors. The IRS looks at factors like who controls your work schedule, provides equipment, and directs how you perform your duties. If you're correctly classified as a W-2 employee, you cannot deduct business expenses on your federal return since 2018. However, you absolutely should discuss expense reimbursements with your family. Items like: - Mileage when driving kids (current rate is 67ยข/mile for 2024) - Craft supplies and materials for activities - Required certifications like CPR - Any special equipment or clothing needed for the job These reimbursements aren't taxable income to you when properly documented. Create a simple reimbursement request system - track expenses with receipts and submit monthly. If your family isn't providing proper tax documents (W-2) and paying employment taxes, this creates problems for both parties. They're legally required to do this if they pay you over $2,400 per year. You miss out on Social Security credits and proper employment history. Keep detailed records regardless of classification - it protects you and shows professionalism to your employer family.
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Aria Park
โขThis is exactly the kind of professional perspective I was hoping to see! As someone just starting out as a nanny, I really appreciate you breaking down the classification issue so clearly. I have a quick follow-up question - when you mention the $2,400 threshold for families to provide W-2s, is that per calendar year? And what happens if a family pays me less than that amount? Do I still need to report that income even if they don't give me any tax forms? Also, I'm curious about the mileage reimbursement rate you mentioned (67ยข/mile for 2024). Is this something most families are aware of, or do I need to educate them about the standard rates? I don't want to seem pushy, but I do drive the kids around quite a bit and the gas costs are adding up! Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise - it's really helping me feel more confident about approaching these conversations with my employer family.
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