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No, it's definitely the actual refund. When you get rejected for the advance but still have fees taken out, that's the final refund minus the preparation fees. I've been through this process three years in a row now. The advance rejection happens when they can't verify certain information, but the actual refund still processes normally. The timing matches perfectly with this year's processing schedule for returns filed in early February.
I track refund patterns every year and noticed several things about this tax season: ⢠Direct deposits are processing 2-3 days faster than last year ⢠Returns with Child Tax Credit seem to be prioritized ⢠Bank processing times vary wildly (Chase and Wells Fargo often release a day early) ⢠Advance rejections are up 18% this year based on forum reports ⢠The IRS batches refunds on specific days (usually Monday/Tuesday/Friday) Your experience fits right into what I'm seeing across the board. The system is definitely more efficient than last year!
Looking at the bigger picture here - what we're seeing is the result of the IRS operating multiple systems that don't always communicate well with each other. The Advanced CTC payment system was set up separately from the main tax processing system, which is why you can receive one without the other being processed. Has anyone received any notices in the mail from the IRS? Sometimes they send letters explaining delays but the letters themselves get delayed. Would you mind sharing what your tax situation is like - did you claim any credits besides the CTC?
Have you checked your transcript online at IRS.gov/transcripts? According to the r/IRS community, many people find more detailed information there than WMR shows. If you see a TC 570 code, that typically indicates a hold on your account. What filing status did you use, and did you claim any other credits like EITC? These factors can significantly impact processing times.
I'm feeling your frustration! I had the EXACT same issue last year with Credit Karma and a TurboTax advance. After four days of nothing showing up, I was so worried! I finally used Claimyr (https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c) to get through to an actual IRS agent instead of waiting on hold for hours. I was literally in tears when they told me my refund had been sent but was held by the bank for processing because of the advance. The agent was able to confirm everything was fine and gave me the exact timeline. Such a relief!
My DDD is March 18th and I'm already stressing about this exact situation. Is this Claimyr service expensive? I've been trying to call the IRS since February 28th with no luck.
I used Claimyr last month when my return had that mysterious 570 code. The IRS queue system is absolutely brutal this time of year - I calculated I saved about 3.5 hours of hold time. Totally worth it to get actual answers about my refund status.
Isn't it interesting how the tax refund system works differently for different people? I've noticed that when you get an advance, the final refund process follows a different path. Have you considered that your refund might be processed differently because of the advance? In my experience, the advance creates an extra verification step that can add 1-3 days to the process, but rarely causes actual problems. It's just a matter of patience at this point.
Tbh I don't think any of these services actually help. IRS works on their own timeline no matter what. I've used CK, TT, and HR Block over the years and literally zero difference in processing time. It's all marketing. WMR and transcripts tell you everything you need to know w/o paying extra $$$. Just wait another biz day and you'll prob see your $.
I was in your exact situation yesterday. Deposit date of 3/15, nothing in my account all morning. I was about to post here when the money showed up at 3pm. Banks process ACH transfers throughout the day, not just at midnight. Give it until end of day before worrying. So glad I found this thread instead of stressing all day like I did!
Ryder Ross
I filed on February 13th, 2024 and was in the same situation until March 30th. What worked for me was requesting a Tax Return Transcript instead of an Account Transcript. For some reason, my Return Transcript showed up first, even though everyone says it should be the opposite. Also, check your transcript between 3-6am on Wednesdays and Thursdays - that's when the IRS system typically updates according to the cycle codes. I noticed my transcript finally appeared at 4:27am on a Thursday morning after showing N/A for weeks. If you're desperate and need your refund for bills, you might consider applying for the Taxpayer Advocate Service. They can help if you're facing financial hardship due to refund delays.
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Gianni Serpent
I was in this exact situation last year. Filed February 12th, 2023 and had absolutely nothing on my transcript until March 28th. I remember checking obsessively every day and driving myself crazy. What I learned from that experience: IRS processing doesn't follow any logical pattern we can discern. Some people who filed after me got their refunds weeks earlier. This year I filed February 15th, 2024, and had the same empty transcript situation until yesterday. Suddenly everything updated at once, and my direct deposit is scheduled for April 17th. No explanation for the delay, no issues with my return. My advice based on two years of this: the system works eventually, just not on any timeline that makes sense to us mere mortals.
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