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PixelPrincess

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This is a common issue with the W-4 redesign that occurred a few years ago. The form no longer uses allowances, which has created withholding discrepancies for many taxpayers, especially those with straightforward tax situations like your daughter's. The Marginal Propensity to Withhold (not an official term, but appropriate) is now calculated differently, and many employers' payroll systems haven't fully optimized for these changes. For 2024, she should consider filing a new W-4 with her employer and either specify an additional amount to withhold on Line 4(c) or check the box in Step 2(c) if she has multiple jobs.

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Chloe Martin

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This happened to my daughter too! She made $34,000 last year and owed $380 despite having what seemed like appropriate withholding. I'm concerned that this is becoming a pattern where younger workers are being caught off guard by these tax bills. When I helped her fill out a new W-4 for 2024, we added an extra $40 per month in withholding on line 4(c) to prevent this from happening again.

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Is it too late to fix this for the current tax year? My son just started a new job making about $35k and I'm worried he'll be in the same boat next April. Should I have him submit a new W-4 now? Is there a specific amount he should put on line 4(c) to avoid owing?

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I solved this exact problem for my daughter last year. Would you believe her income was almost identical - $32,900? The issue is the withholding calculations. Have you checked if she's claiming herself as a dependent on her own return? Or could you possibly be claiming her on yours? Because that would create exactly this situation. I had my daughter adjust her W-4 to withhold an additional $30 per paycheck (assuming biweekly pay), and this year she got a $212 refund instead of owing. The withholding system isn't perfect, is it? But with a small adjustment, you can fix it for next year.

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I'm in a similar situation - just started my first full-time job on January 15th, 2024, making about $34,000. Based on your experience, should I submit a new W-4 now? I'm worried about owing next year and want to avoid that if possible.

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Zara Khan

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This is exactly what happened to me! The dependent thing is what got me. I was claiming myself as independent on my W-4 but my parents were still claiming me on their taxes (which was correct since they provided over half my support). The IRS doesn't care about the contradiction until tax time, and then you're stuck with the bill. So frustrating that they don't make this clearer to young workers!

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Tax pro here. There's def confusion in this thread. The IRS doesn't offer EITC advances directly. What you've likely applied for is an RAL (Refund Anticipation Loan) through your prep software. These aren't IRS products but 3rd-party loans based on your expected refund. The approval process is handled by the lender, not the IRS. Check your filing confirmation emails for info about the loan provider and contact them directly. They'll have a separate approval process that has nothing to do with your transcript codes.

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This whole EITC advance situation is a mess every year! πŸ˜‚ I've gone through this rodeo before and learned it's all about who you filed with, not the IRS. H&R Block, TurboTax, etc. all have different "advance" programs with different lenders and timelines. The IRS transcript won't show anything about these because they're private loans. Best community wisdom: check who the actual lender is (usually buried in the fine print of what you signed) and contact them directly. Your tax preparer is just the middleman and often knows nothing about the loan status.

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Val Rossi

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The community wisdom on this is pretty consistent: filed returns with dependents that were accepted in January 2024 are taking exactly 21-35 days to process for most people. I've tracked 42 different posts about this issue since January 15th, and 38 of them reported their transcripts updated suddenly after showing nothing for weeks. Only 4 had actual issues requiring further action. The statistics strongly suggest you're in the normal processing group.

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Eve Freeman

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Last week my client was in identical situation. Filed January 19. One dependent. Blank transcript until February 13. Refund deposited February 16. No issues. No explanation for delay. Just normal processing time. Don't worry yet.

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Jamal Brown

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Have you considered that this might be related to identity verification? The IRS has significantly increased verification measures for returns with refundable credits like EIC and CTC this year. You might want to proactively check if you need to verify your identity through the IRS Identity Verification Service. Many taxpayers don't realize they need to complete this step until weeks have passed. What if your return is just sitting there waiting for you to verify your identity? Also, have you received any letters from the IRS in the mail? Sometimes they send notices requesting additional information before they'll process your return further, especially with credits like EIC that have higher fraud rates.

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I'm wondering if maybe I should go ahead and try to verify my identity even if I haven't received a letter yet? Is that possible? Or would that potentially cause more problems if they haven't actually flagged my return for verification? I'm just not sure if being proactive helps or hurts in this situation...

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Thank you for this detailed explanation. I've been through the identity verification process before, and it's definitely worth checking. In my experience, you can attempt to verify through ID.me on the IRS website even if you haven't received a letter. If verification isn't required for your account, the system will simply tell you that no verification is needed at this time. No harm in checking.

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Think of the IRS processing system like a massive traffic jam where cars with certain features (like your EIC and CTC) get directed to special lanes for extra inspection. Sometimes your car gets stuck between lanes and doesn't show up on the traffic cameras (WMR). You might want to try the IRS2Go mobile app instead of the website. For some strange reason, sometimes the app shows different information than the website. Also, check your return status very early in the morning (around 3-4am) when their systems are updating - that's when you're most likely to get accurate information before the daily traffic hits their servers.

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Nalani Liu

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Have you considered these important factors for gig workers?: β€’ Self-employment tax (15.3% on net earnings) β€’ Quarterly estimated tax payments β€’ Business expense deductions β€’ Potential home office deduction Also, how much have you already had withheld or paid in estimated taxes this year? That's the critical piece to determine if you'll owe more.

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Axel Bourke

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Def agree w/ this list! Also don't forget abt retirement options like SEP IRA or Solo 401k that can reduce ur taxable income. I'm a gig worker too and these saved me big $$ last yr. For the 16yo, u should get CTC which helps a ton. The 18yo might still qualify as dependent but not for CTC unless they're a full-time student. Tracking expenses is super important - I use an app that auto-categorizes everything which makes tax time way easier!

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Aidan Percy

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I'm a bit confused about your question - are you asking if you'll owe taxes when you file your 2023 return now, or are you planning ahead for 2024? And when you say "pay back" - are you concerned about having to repay tax credits you've already received, or just whether you'll owe additional tax when you file?

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Ayla Kumar

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These are excellent clarifying questions. The timing and nature of the concern would significantly impact the advice. If this is about 2023 taxes due by April 15th, that's one scenario. If it's about planning for 2024 or concerns about tax credit repayment, those are entirely different situations requiring different approaches.

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