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I'm really confused about my federal tax withholding situation. I joined my current company about two years ago, and after the first year, I ended up owing a bunch of money to the IRS because not enough federal taxes were being withheld. The weird thing is, I always complete my W4 the exact same way regardless of where I work - Married filing jointly, claiming 0 dependents. Looking at my recent pay stubs, I can see that for this past year, I earned about $68,000 but only had $1,321 withheld for federal taxes. To put this in perspective, at my previous job where I only worked for about two months at the beginning of the year, I earned around $10,200 and had $758 in federal taxes withheld. What's really strange is that I've talked to several coworkers, and they're all experiencing the same issue! They all said they've never owed taxes at previous employers, but at this company, everyone seems to end up owing. Is there something wrong with our company's payroll system? Why would the withholding be so different from other places when my W4 information is exactly the same? Anyone else experienced this or know what might be happening?
I haven't been able to work during 2024 due to some health issues. I'm claiming head of household and have my 16 year old son living with me full time. Just wondering if I would still qualify for any Child Tax Credit even though I had zero income this year? I've heard mixed information about whether CTC is refundable or if you need earned income. Any help would be appreciated since I'm trying to figure out if it's even worth filing.
Hey Amara! I'm sorry to hear about your health issues this year. The good news is that you should definitely file - even with zero income, you can still get the refundable portion of the Child Tax Credit (called Additional Child Tax Credit or ACTC). For 2024, that's up to $1,600 per qualifying child. Since your son is 16, this is actually his last year to qualify (they have to be under 17), so don't miss out! I'd recommend using free filing software or checking out the VITA program someone mentioned for free help. You've got nothing to lose and potentially $1,600 to gain!
I'm so glad you found this thread helpful, Amara! As someone who works in community outreach, I see situations like yours frequently, and you're absolutely right to pursue this. The Additional Child Tax Credit is one of the most important safety net programs we have for families facing unexpected hardships. Just to reinforce what others have said - even though you had zero income due to health issues, you can still receive up to $1,600 through the ACTC for your 16-year-old son. Since he's aging out after this year (must be under 17), this is definitely your last chance to claim him. A couple of additional resources I'd recommend: โข 211.org can help you find local VITA sites and other tax assistance programs โข Many public libraries offer free tax prep help during filing season โข If you qualify for Medicaid or food assistance, you're automatically eligible for free filing through the IRS Free File program The fact that so many people have shared similar success stories in this thread really shows how the system is supposed to work - providing support when families need it most. Don't let anyone make you feel like you don't "deserve" this credit. You're a parent who had to prioritize health and family, and that $1,600 refund is specifically designed for situations exactly like yours. Wishing you continued healing and hoping this refund helps ease some of the financial stress! ๐
This is such valuable information, Ella! I really appreciate you sharing those additional resources - I had no idea about 211.org or that libraries offer tax prep help. As someone new to navigating these systems, it's overwhelming trying to figure out where to get reliable help, so having these specific resources is amazing. The point about not feeling like I don't "deserve" this credit really hits home - I've definitely been struggling with some guilt about claiming benefits when I wasn't able to work. But you're right that this is exactly what these programs are designed for. Thank you for validating that prioritizing my health and family was the right choice. This whole thread has been so encouraging and informative - I'm definitely going to file and claim that ACTC. The support from this community has honestly been life-changing! ๐๐
Filed with Jackson Hewitt and got denied twice for the refund advance loan. Was approved the last 2 years no problem. Credit isnt the issue - student loans current and child support taken from paycheck weekly. Refund is supposed to be 5,600. Anyone know what could be wrong?
Same thing happened to me last year! Jackson Hewitt denied my RAL even though I had been approved before. Turns out the IRS had put a hold on my return for income verification - had nothing to do with my credit. The tax prep places can't approve the loan if the IRS has any flags on your return, even if they don't tell you about it upfront. Try checking your account transcript on irs.gov to see if there are any indicators or codes that might explain what's going on. Sometimes there's stuff happening behind the scenes that the tax office doesn't even know about.
This is so frustrating! I'm going through the exact same thing with Jackson Hewitt - denied twice when I was approved easily last year. My refund is around $4,800 and I can't figure out what changed. Reading through these comments about IRS flags and income verification makes me think that's probably what's happening. Has anyone had luck calling Jackson Hewitt directly to ask why they're denying? Or is it really just a matter of waiting for the IRS to clear whatever review they're doing? I'm tempted to try that taxr.ai thing everyone's mentioning just to get some answers instead of being left in the dark.
I feel your pain! Just went through this exact situation a few weeks ago. Jackson Hewitt won't give you the real reason - they just say "denied" but it's usually because the IRS has some kind of review flag on your return. I ended up calling the IRS directly (waited 2+ hours ๐) and found out they needed to verify my W-2 info. The rep told me that tax prep companies can see these flags in their system but don't always explain what they mean to customers. Super frustrating! I'd definitely try that taxr thing people are talking about - seems like it might save you the headache of calling and waiting forever just to get basic info about your own return.
Hey all, I'm in a bit of a panic with tax day coming up and I'm nowhere near ready to file. I've got way more paperwork this year than ever before (switched jobs twice, started some freelance work, and sold some crypto). So I'm definitely filing for an extension using Form 4868. The thing is, I'm really worried about underpaying and getting hit with penalties. From what I can tell, the extension only gives me more time to file the paperwork, but I still need to pay what I owe by the original deadline. The problem is, I don't know exactly what I owe yet! Would it be okay if I just estimate on the high side and pay MORE than I think I'll owe when I submit the 4868? Like if I think I might owe around $3,200 based on some rough calculations, can I just pay $4,000 to be safe? Will the IRS just apply the overpayment to next year or refund it once I actually file my complete return? I've never filed an extension before and I'm honestly confused about how this works. Any advice appreciated! Getting stressed with the deadline approaching...
Quick question - if I'm getting a refund (I'm like 99% sure based on my rough calculations), do I still need to file an extension? Or is the extension only necessary if you're going to owe money?
Technically, if you're getting a refund, you don't NEED to file an extension. The penalties for late filing only apply if you owe money. However, I still recommend filing the extension for two reasons: 1. If your calculations are wrong and you end up owing even a small amount, you'll be subject to late filing penalties if you didn't file an extension. 2. Some states require you to file a state extension even if you're getting a federal refund, so filing the federal extension covers your bases.
Just wanted to add one more thing that might help with your extension stress - you can actually amend your extension payment if you realize you underpaid! I found this out the hard way last year when I filed my 4868 and paid what I thought I owed, but then realized I had forgotten about some 1099 income a week later. I was panicking thinking I'd get hit with penalties, but it turns out you can make additional payments toward your current year taxes even after filing the extension. You can make additional payments online through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) or by phone, and as long as the total of all your payments meets what you actually owe by the April deadline, you're good. Just make sure to specify it's for the current tax year when you make the payment. So even if you estimate conservatively and then realize you need to pay more, you're not stuck! This might give you some peace of mind as you're figuring out your numbers.
I recently did a traditional 401k to Roth IRA conversion and am totally confused about the 1099-R I received. The form shows $0 in the taxable amount box 2a. The "Taxable amount not determined" box is NOT checked, but "Total distribution" IS checked in box 2b. All of boxes 3-6 are completely blank. The distribution code is G. Here's where I'm really scratching my head - when I enter this information exactly as it appears on the form into various tax software programs (tried three different ones), none of them are marking this distribution as taxable income. That seems wrong to me since I thought Roth conversions are generally taxable? Do I need to contact the plan administrator and have them correct this on their end before I file? Or can I just override what's on the form and input the gross distribution amount in box 2a myself? I'm trying to avoid getting into trouble with the IRS because this seems like the kind of thing that would trigger an audit. Or am I completely misunderstanding how this type of conversion works tax-wise? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Remember that the IRS gets a copy of your 1099-R, so even if you correctly report the taxable amount on your return, their automated matching system might flag the discrepancy. I'd definitely include an explanation statement with your return if the form isn't corrected. Something like: "The amount reported as taxable on line X reflects the correct taxable portion of my Traditional 401k to Roth IRA conversion, despite the distributing institution incorrectly reporting $0 in box 2a of Form 1099-R. Multiple attempts to obtain a corrected form were unsuccessful.
Does anyone know how to attach an explanation to an e-filed return? Is there a specific form for this or is it just an attachment you add?
Most tax software has an option to include a statement or explanation with your e-filed return. In TurboTax, look for something like "Miscellaneous Forms" or "Statements" in the forms search. In H&R Block software, it's under "Miscellaneous Forms" as well. If you can't find it, you can also use Form 8275 "Disclosure Statement" for more complex situations, though that might be overkill for this issue. The key is making sure you properly report the correct taxable amount and documenting your good-faith effort to comply with tax laws despite receiving incorrect forms.
I had this exact same issue with my 401k to Roth IRA conversion last year! The key thing to understand is that distribution code G with $0 in box 2a is actually pretty common, especially when the funds go directly from one institution to another. Here's what I learned after going through this headache: the distributing institution (your old 401k provider) often doesn't have enough information to determine the taxable amount, so they punt and put $0. This doesn't mean it's not taxable - it just means YOU need to figure out the correct amount. For most people doing a traditional 401k to Roth conversion, the entire amount is taxable unless you had after-tax contributions in your 401k (which is rare). You should report the full gross distribution amount as taxable income on your return. I'd suggest calling your old 401k provider one more time to ask for a corrected form, but if they won't budge, just report it correctly on your return. The IRS cares more about you reporting the right amount of income than matching exactly what's on a potentially incorrect form. Keep documentation of your attempts to get it corrected just in case. Don't let the software fool you into thinking this isn't taxable - override it and enter the correct amount!
Sofia Morales
I had a very similar situation at my current job! What helped me was actually requesting my payroll department to show me exactly how they were calculating my withholding. It turned out they were using an older version of the withholding tables that didn't account for the 2017 tax law changes properly. Here's what I'd recommend: First, use the IRS withholding calculator online with your exact pay information to see what your withholding SHOULD be. Then compare that to what's actually being withheld. If there's a big difference, take both numbers to your HR/payroll department and ask them to verify their calculations. Also, since you mentioned your coworkers are having the same issue, this really does sound like a systemic problem with how your company is processing W-4s or which withholding tables they're using. You might want to bring this up as a group - sometimes companies are more responsive when multiple employees raise the same concern. The fact that this is happening to everyone suggests it's not just individual W-4 errors. In the meantime, I'd definitely recommend adding extra withholding on line 4(c) of your W-4 to cover the gap until the underlying issue gets resolved.
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Alfredo Lugo
This is such a frustrating situation, and unfortunately it's more common than it should be! As a tax professional, I see this exact scenario all the time. The root cause is almost always the "Married Filing Jointly" withholding election combined with both spouses working. Here's what's happening: When you select "Married" on your W-4, the system calculates your withholding as if your income is the ONLY income in your household. It spreads your $68,000 across the full married tax brackets, resulting in much lower withholding than you actually need when combined with your spouse's income. The fact that your coworkers are experiencing the same issue suggests your company's payroll system is working correctly - it's just that most people don't understand how the married withholding tables work in dual-income households. Quick fixes you can implement immediately: 1. Submit a new W-4 and check the box in Step 2(c) for "Multiple Jobs" 2. OR select "Single or Married filing separately" instead of "Married filing jointly" (this withholds at the higher single rate) 3. Add additional withholding in Step 4(c) - I'd recommend starting with $150-200 per paycheck based on your income level The IRS withholding calculator at irs.gov is your best friend here - it will give you the exact additional amount you need. Don't wait until next year to fix this!
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