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Tom Maxon

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Code 150 - Tax Return Filed (Date: 08-12-2024; Amount: $1,127.00): This entry indicates that you filed and processed your tax return with a tax amount due of $1,127.00. Code 810 - Refund Freeze (Date: 02-08-2024; Amount: $0.00): This indicates that a freeze has been placed on any refund that may be due to you. This freeze could be due to various reasons such as review for accuracy, verification of information, or other compliance checks. The amount next to this code is typically $0.00 as it represents a status rather than a financial transaction. Code 766 - Credit to Your Account (Date: 04-15-2024; Amount: -$46,880.00): This is a substantial credit applied to your account. This could include withholding from wages, estimated tax payments, or other credits. The negative value indicates it's a credit to you. Code 768 - Earned Income Credit (Date: 04-15-2024; Amount: -$568.00): This shows the amount of Earned Income Credit (EIC) that was applied to your account. This credit is given to you if you are eligible and have low to moderate income from work. It is a refundable credit, meaning it can reduce the tax you owe and potentially increase your refund. Analysis and Next Steps The combination of credits listed under codes 766 and 768 significantly exceeds the tax assessed under code 150. However, the presence of the refund freeze (code 810) means that despite these credits, the IRS is not currently processing a refund for you. Since the freeze was initiated before the credits were applied, there might have been anticipation of issues with your tax return or the credits themselves that required additional scrutiny. Given the refund freeze and the lack of a code 846 (which would indicate a refund being issued), you should anticipate that the IRS may need more information or time to review the accuracy of your return or the eligibility for credits claimed. If you have not received any communication from the IRS explaining the refund freeze, it would be advisable for you to initiate contact to clarify the reasons for the hold and to understand if any additional steps are required from your side to resolve the issue. I made a video on how to bypass the usual IRS phone menu and long wait times here: https://youtu.be/UiAegRQ2Is8

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Ava Martinez

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@Crystal Singletary I can totally relate to your frustration! That s'such a substantial refund amount - I d'be checking my transcript obsessively too! The good news is that since you ve'already completed the verification call, you re'past the hardest part. With refunds over $40k, the IRS really does take extra time for security reasons, but that 9-week timeline they gave you is usually pretty reliable. Just remember that countdown started from your verification call, not your original filing date. I d'definitely join the Friday transcript checking crew - that s'when most people see updates. Once that 810 code disappears, you should see an 846 refund code pop up with your actual deposit date. The waiting is absolutely brutal with that kind of money on the line, but you re'in their system now and moving through the process. Stay strong! 🀞

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Caleb Stark

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@Crystal Singletary I totally get how nerve-wracking this must be with such a huge refund! The 21-day timeline everyone talks about goes out the window once you have an 810 freeze. Since you already did the verification call and they gave you 9 weeks, that s'your real timeline now - starting from that call date, not your original filing. I know it s'frustrating but with $47k+ they have to be extra careful. Check your transcript every Friday like everyone s'saying - once that 810 disappears you ll'see an 846 code with your refund date pretty quickly after. You re'in the home stretch now!

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Ravi Kapoor

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Just wanted to add my experience since I went through this same headache last year. The key thing that helped me was understanding that Box 14 is specifically for self-employment tax calculations - that's why your personal accountant won't touch your individual return until it's fixed. For a simple partnership like yours (selling stuff online), you'll most likely need to report your share of the partnership's net earnings in Box 14 with code "A". Since you mentioned $6,500 gross income and $6,000 expenses, your net earnings would be around $500, so each partner's Box 14 would show their respective share of that amount. I used TurboTax Business to handle my amendment and it was pretty straightforward. The software automatically calculated what needed to go in Box 14 based on the business income I'd already entered. Just make sure when you generate the new K-1s that both you and your partner get copies of the corrected versions for your personal returns. One tip: call the IRS processing center after you mail the amendment to confirm they received it. Mine got lost in the mail the first time and I had to resend everything.

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This is really helpful! Just to clarify - when you say "each partner's Box 14 would show their respective share," how exactly is that calculated? Is it just split 50/50 since there are two partners, or does it depend on ownership percentages? Also, regarding calling the IRS processing center - do you happen to remember which number you called? I want to make sure I'm calling the right place once I send mine in. @Ravi Kapoor Thanks for sharing your experience with this!

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I went through this exact same situation with my partnership last year! Here's what I learned: For Box 14, the allocation depends on your partnership agreement. If you don't have a written agreement specifying ownership percentages, the IRS generally assumes equal partnership (50/50 split). So if your net earnings are $500 ($6,500 - $6,000), each partner would report $250 in Box 14 with code "A". However, if you and your buddy agreed to different ownership percentages based on contributions, time invested, etc., you'd need to allocate based on those percentages. Just make sure whatever split you use is consistent throughout the entire return. For the IRS processing center, I called the general partnership line at 1-800-829-4933 and asked to be transferred to the processing center for my state. They were actually pretty helpful in confirming receipt of my amendment. You can also track it if you send via certified mail with tracking. One more tip: when you prepare the amendment, include a cover letter explaining exactly what you're changing ("Adding self-employment income information to Schedule K-1 Box 14 - no changes to income or expense amounts"). This helps avoid confusion and potential delays in processing. The whole process took about 6-8 weeks from mailing to receiving confirmation, so don't panic if you don't hear back immediately.

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Chloe Harris

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This is super helpful, thanks @Sara Hellquiem! The 50/50 split makes sense since we never formalized any ownership agreement. Quick question about the cover letter - should I attach it as a separate page or write the explanation directly on the amended 1065 form itself? Also, did you have any issues with your state tax return after amending the federal partnership return? I'm wondering if I'll need to amend anything at the state level too once this gets sorted out. The 6-8 week timeline is actually reassuring - I was worried this might drag on for months and delay my personal tax filing even more.

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Carmen Lopez

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Speaking from experience running my S Corp for 10 years, the key here is understanding the DUAL roles you have in your S Corp: 1. As an EMPLOYEE receiving a salary (reported on W-2) 2. As an OWNER receiving distributions of profit (reported on K-1) Your accountant is right that the $40k salary doesn't create a business loss on the 1120-S. BUT, that money had to come from somewhere! In your example, since there's no revenue, the $40k is effectively coming from your beginning cash balance, which represents retained earnings from previous years. This is why the S Corp basis tracking is so important - it follows the money through the business and to the shareholders correctly.

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Andre Dupont

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So in this example, would the $40k salary be considered a distribution of prior year earnings? And if so, wouldn't that still reduce the owner's basis?

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No, the $40k salary wouldn't be considered a distribution - it's actual wages paid to the shareholder-employee. The salary gets reported on Form W-2 and is subject to payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare, unemployment). The confusion comes from WHERE the money comes from versus HOW it's taxed. Yes, the $40k comes from the company's cash (which represents retained earnings from prior years), but it's paid as W-2 wages, not as a distribution. If it were a distribution, it would reduce basis and wouldn't be subject to payroll taxes. But since it's salary, the company pays the employer portion of payroll taxes, and the owner pays the employee portion - just like any other employee. The key is that S Corp owners must take "reasonable compensation" as salary before taking distributions, which is why this distinction matters so much.

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This is a great example of why S Corp taxation can be so confusing! Your accountant is absolutely correct, and I think the confusion comes from mixing up cash flow with tax reporting. Here's what's actually happening in your scenario: **Cash Flow Reality:** Your business started with $100k, paid out $40k in salary, and ended with $60k cash. The $40k definitely left the business account. **Tax Reporting Reality:** On Form 1120-S, that $40k salary is NOT treated as a business expense that reduces income. Instead, it's reported on your W-2 as wages. The business also pays employer payroll taxes on that salary. The reason this makes sense is that S Corps have a unique "dual taxation" structure. The salary portion gets taxed as regular W-2 income (with payroll taxes), while business profits flow through to your personal return via Schedule K-1. Think of it this way: if S Corp salaries reduced business income dollar-for-dollar, you could theoretically pay yourself a huge salary and create artificial business losses. The IRS prevents this by requiring "reasonable compensation" as salary (subject to payroll taxes) and treating the rest as distributions. Your $100k starting balance represents retained earnings from previous profitable years. When you pay salary from that money, you're essentially converting prior-year profits into current-year wages - which changes how it gets taxed but doesn't create a new business loss.

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StarStrider

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This explanation really helps clarify the dual nature of S Corp taxation! I'm curious though - in this scenario where the business has zero revenue and pays $40k in salary, wouldn't the company still need to report and pay the employer portion of payroll taxes? How does that get handled on the 1120-S if the salary itself isn't treated as a deductible business expense? Also, when you mention "reasonable compensation," how does the IRS determine what's reasonable when the business isn't generating any current income? It seems like there would be additional complexities around justifying a $40k salary when there's no business activity.

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I'm experiencing the exact same delay! Filed through TurboTax on Saturday and still stuck on pending status. After reading everyone's explanations here, I'm much less worried now. It's actually reassuring to know that TurboTax does their own quality check before transmitting to the IRS - better to catch errors early than deal with rejections later. The weekend filing timing combined with their 2-3 day internal review process explains everything. Thanks to everyone who shared the detailed breakdown of how the e-file system actually works behind the scenes. This is exactly why I love this community - you get real answers from people who've been through the same situation. Looks like we weekend filers just need to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday for our status updates!

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QuantumQueen

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I'm also stuck in the same pending limbo! Filed through TurboTax on Saturday night and have been refreshing the status page way too often since then. This thread has been a lifesaver - I had no idea there was such a detailed process behind the scenes. @CosmicCommander's breakdown of the IRS Publication requirements was really eye-opening, and @Liam Sullivan s'step-by-step explanation makes so much sense now. I was getting anxious thinking I might have made an error, but knowing that weekend submissions naturally take longer and that TurboTax actually reviews everything before sending it off is actually pretty comforting. Guess we weekend filers just need to practice some patience until mid-week!

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I'm in the exact same boat! Filed my return through TurboTax on Saturday evening and it's been showing "pending" ever since. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I was starting to get really anxious thinking I'd messed something up on my return. The detailed explanations about TurboTax's internal review process and the weekend timing make so much sense now. @Liam Sullivan's step-by-step breakdown was particularly reassuring, and @CosmicCommander's info about the IRS Publication requirements shows there's actually a structured process behind all this. It's good to know that "pending" doesn't mean there's a problem - just that the system is working as designed. Sounds like us weekend filers should see status updates by Tuesday or Wednesday. This community really comes through during tax season stress!

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As someone who's dealt with similar cash labor situations in my construction business, I'd strongly recommend getting ahead of this before it becomes a bigger issue. The good news is that your $12,000 in labor costs are absolutely deductible business expenses - the IRS doesn't care if you paid cash, check, or cryptocurrency as long as they were legitimate business expenses. Here's what you need to do immediately: Start keeping a daily log book. Every time you pay someone, write down the date, job site address, brief description of work performed (like "tree removal" or "lawn maintenance"), number of workers, and total amount paid. Have the workers sign this log - even if they just put "Jose" or "Mike," it shows you made an effort to document. For your past payments, recreate this log as best you can remember. Look at your bank withdrawal records to help jog your memory about timing and amounts. The IRS understands that cash businesses exist, but you need to show systematic record-keeping. Most importantly, stop paying from your personal account immediately. Open a business checking account if you don't have one, or start using your existing business account for all labor payments. This separation is crucial for maintaining your business expense deductions and avoiding any appearance of mixing personal and business finances. One last tip - consider having a simple one-page work agreement template that workers can sign. It doesn't need to be fancy, just something that shows the work performed, date, and payment amount. This creates much stronger documentation than just a handwritten log.

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Harper Hill

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was looking for! The work agreement template idea is brilliant - I never thought about having something that simple but official-looking. Just to clarify though, when you say "have workers sign this log" - what if they refuse to sign or don't want to give any identifying information? I've run into this a few times where workers are hesitant about any kind of paperwork. Is it still worth documenting the payment even without their signature, or does that make the deduction more questionable? Also, regarding the business checking account - I do have one but I've been lazy about using it for these quick cash payments. How detailed do the withdrawal memo lines need to be? Can I just write "labor expenses" or should I be more specific each time?

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Esteban Tate

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Great questions! If workers refuse to sign, absolutely still document the payment in your log. The IRS values consistency and effort - showing that you systematically track these expenses is more important than having every signature. Just note in your log something like "Worker declined to sign" so it shows you attempted proper documentation. For workers hesitant about paperwork, I've had success explaining it simply: "This is just for my records to show I paid you for the work." Most understand it's about your business needs, not collecting their personal info. If they're still uncomfortable, respect that but keep documenting on your end. Regarding withdrawal memos - "Contract Labor" or "Daily Labor" is sufficient for the bank record. The detailed documentation should be in your separate log book where you can write "Contract Labor - hedge trimming at Johnson residence, 2 workers, 4 hours" etc. Your bank withdrawal just needs to show the business purpose, while your log provides the supporting detail. The key is creating a clear paper trail that connects your bank withdrawal β†’ your log entry β†’ the actual work performed. This three-part documentation system will hold up well if questioned. Start this system immediately and be consistent - even imperfect documentation done systematically is much better than perfect documentation done sporadically.

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Lucas Adams

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I've been running a similar operation with my pool cleaning business for years and learned some hard lessons about documentation. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple "daily work summary" that I fill out at the end of each day, even when I can't get worker signatures. I include: date, total cash withdrawn that morning, list of job sites visited, approximate number of workers used at each site, and total paid out. Then I take a photo of this summary with my phone - creates a timestamp and backup. At the end of the week, I reconcile this against my business account withdrawals. The IRS audited me two years ago (unrelated to labor expenses) and my examiner actually complimented this system. She said it showed "reasonable business practices" for tracking cash labor costs. The key thing she emphasized was consistency - doing the same documentation process every time, even if it's simple. One more tip: if you work the same locations regularly (like weekly lawn maintenance), take before/after photos of the work sites. This creates additional evidence that legitimate work was performed on the dates you claim. Helps justify the business expense beyond just "trust me, I paid someone to work." Your $12K in labor costs are definitely deductible - just get that documentation system in place now and stick with it religiously.

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This photo documentation system is genius! I never thought about using my phone to timestamp the daily summaries - that's such a simple way to create backup records. The before/after photos idea is also really smart, especially for repeat clients where you can show the ongoing maintenance work. I'm curious about your audit experience though - did they ask for specific details about individual workers, or were they more focused on the overall business expense pattern? I'm always worried about what happens if they want names and contact info for workers that I simply don't have. Your approach seems like it would handle that situation well since you're documenting the work performed rather than trying to track down individual contractors after the fact. Also, when you say "reconcile against business account withdrawals" - do you mean matching your daily summaries to specific ATM or bank withdrawals? I'm trying to figure out the best way to connect my cash payments back to my business banking records.

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