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Based on what I've seen in the past few months, paper returns filed in March 2024 are taking anywhere from 8-12 weeks to process. I filed a late 2022 return on January 15th, 2024, and it was finally processed on March 21st, 2024 - so about 9 weeks for me. The payment plan is actually pretty straightforward once the return processes, but timing is everything. If your 2024 refund completes processing before you set up the payment arrangement, they'll definitely take it to satisfy the 2022 debt.
Be very careful with this situation. Here's what you need to do step-by-step: 1. Monitor your 2022 account transcript weekly 2. As soon as you see the return post (usually with a 150 code), call the IRS immediately 3. Request a payment plan before your 2024 refund processes 4. Get confirmation in writing I've seen many cases where people thought they had time, but the IRS systems are automated for offsets. Once your 2022 liability is assessed, you have a very narrow window before the offset happens automatically. In one case I worked with, the taxpayer lost a $4,000 refund because they waited just 3 days too long to set up their payment arrangement.
Here's what's happening with the IRS update schedule this year: 1. The IRS received funding to modernize their processing systems 2. They're implementing a more distributed processing approach 3. Instead of processing most returns in just a few large batches, they're now processing smaller batches throughout the week 4. Your cycle code (last two digits of the 14-digit number on your transcript) determines your processing group 5. Even if you were cycle 05 before, you might be in a different cycle now 6. Check your 2023 transcript for your current cycle code 7. You need to check WMR and transcripts ASAP as the deposit could come any day now!
I've heard similar explanations before, but I'll believe it when I see consistent improvements. Every year there's some new system or process that's supposed to make things better, yet somehow my refund still takes forever. I appreciate the breakdown though - at least this explains why my usual Friday update pattern isn't working this year.
I'm SO RELIEVED to see someone else experiencing this! š The cycle change threw me for a loop too. I did some digging and found that the IRS has officially implemented their new Enterprise Case Management system this year, which allows for more frequent processing batches. If you check your transcript, look at the full cycle code (should be 14 digits). The 4th and 5th digits represent the year (24 for 2024) and the last two digits are your cycle number. Many people who were traditionally cycle 05 are now seeing 01, 02, or 03 cycles, which explains the different update days. This doesn't necessarily mean faster or slower processing - just different days for updates.
So if my cycle changed from 05 to 02, when should I expect WMR to update now? Still trying to figure out the new pattern tbh
I had a strange experience with verification last year. My return was accepted on January 28th, but then nothing happened for weeks. I called the IRS after 21 days and discovered I needed to verify my identity, even though I hadn't received any letter. The agent explained that sometimes the letters get lost in the mail. After verifying through ID.me that same day, my refund was processed within a week. My takeaway is that if your refund is delayed beyond the normal processing time (21 days for e-file), it's worth calling to check if verification is needed.
Wow, I had no idea the letters could just... not arrive? That's concerning. I always assumed no letter meant no problem. I guess I should be more proactive about checking if my refund seems delayed.
Back in 2022, I had to go through verification twice because I moved states. From that experience and helping others since, I've noticed some patterns that might indicate you'll need to verify: 1. First-time filers almost always get verified 2. Major life changes (marriage, divorce, moving states) 3. Large changes in income or deductions 4. Claiming refundable credits for the first time 5. Filing from an IP address in a different location than your address If any of these apply to you, I'd recommend being proactive and checking your transcript weekly after filing.
It seems like most people here have had similar experiences, which probably means you're in good shape. The IRS systems tend to update in stages, and there's usually a lag between when your return is accepted and when your transcript reflects the information. This is probably more noticeable now because you're checking earlier in the process than you might have in previous years. I'd say give it another week or so before getting too concerned, as the IRS is likely just working through their backlog of returns.
I checked again this morning and now my transcript shows processing codes! Looks like it just needed a few more days to update. The verification of non-filing message is gone and I can see my return details now.
Last year I had exactly this situation. Filed on February 8th through TurboTax, got the acceptance confirmation within 48 hours, but my transcript showed all zeros with verification of non-filing until March 2nd. Then suddenly everything updated at once and my refund was deposited on March 7th. The key thing I learned is that the different IRS systems don't synchronize in real-time - they batch update on different schedules.
Ravi Gupta
I feel your pain! I was in the EXACT same situation last year! š© I filed 2023 first, then realized I never filed 2022. It was so stressful but actually turned out fine! I called the IRS and they were surprisingly helpful. The lady told me it happens more than people think. For your small business, make sure you have all your expense receipts organized by category - this made a HUGE difference for me. I was so worried I'd get in trouble but it was just a normal process. You got this! šŖ
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Freya Pedersen
I'm planning to file my 2023 taxes next week (July 15th) - has anyone had issues with the IRS questioning why you filed current year before past year? Does the IRS computer system flag this as suspicious, or is it common enough that they don't care about the order?
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