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I'm seriously freaking out right now after doing my taxes with FreeTaxUSA! I just about had a heart attack when I saw that I'll owe the government $2500!! It's all because the stupid tax laws changed for dependents - the exemption is basically GONE! I have two teenagers and last year the exemption was $6700, but this year it dropped to only $1300!! The software gave me this explanation about it. Does anybody know any other deductions I could use to get rid of some of this tax debt?? My situation isn't complicated: I file as single/head of household, have 2 kids (both turned 17 this year), own my home, and my AGI is about $145K. The tax software explanation says: Where's the Dependent Exemption? There were some changes to the tax laws, and the Dependent Exemption is not available. These changes also came with the Credit for Other Dependents, and an increase to the Child Tax Credit, which may benefit taxpayers with qualifying dependents. But clearly it's NOT benefiting me if I owe $2500!!! Help!!
I'm trying to figure out why I'm not seeing taxes on the gains in my traditional IRA that were converted to my Roth through the backdoor method. From everything I've read, those earnings should be taxed during conversion, but my tax return isn't showing this. I had around $220 in gains that built up in my traditional IRA before converting to my Roth IRA. After I entered my 1099-R in my tax software, then added my 2024 contributions (plus reported a recharacterization for 2024 contributions done in 2025 because I totally messed up how to do the backdoor through Vanguard), my tax liability actually decreased by $184, which makes no sense to me. For my 2023 tax return: - Form 8606 has lines 1, 3, and 14 showing $6,500 - On Form 1040 Line 4a: - Recharacterized $6,500 of Roth contribution originally made 06/06/2023 - Transferred $7,081 to traditional IRA in 02/2024 The 1099-R for Traditional to Roth IRA conversion from 2024: - Distribution: $7,203.85 - Box 2a: $7,203.85 - Box 2b is checked - Code 2 For my 2024 tax return: - Form 8606 - Line 1: $7,000 - Line 2: $6,500 - Lines 3, 5: $13,500 - Lines 8, 9, 11, 13: $7,204 - Line 14: $6,296 - (Part 2) Lines 16 and 17: $7,204 Box 4b on my 2024 1040 shows 'rollover' and the amount is blank. Shouldn't I be paying tax on those earnings? Am I missing something here?
I think I see where the confusion is happening. Look at line 2 of your Form 8606 for 2024. You have $6,500 there, which is your basis from the previous year's non-deductible contributions. When you do a backdoor Roth, you need to track your basis across tax years. Since you did the conversion in 2024 of contributions made in 2023, plus additional contributions in 2024, the math gets a bit complex. The taxable amount should be: Total distribution ($7,204) minus your basis in the IRA ($6,500 + any other non-deductible contributions you've made in previous years that haven't been converted yet).
Thanks for pointing this out! So if I understand correctly, my 2023 contribution ($6,500) plus my 2024 contribution ($7,000) gives me a total basis of $13,500, which matches lines 3 and 5 on my Form 8606. But I only converted $7,204, leaving $6,296 as my remaining basis (line 14). Does that mean none of my conversion should be taxable? That doesn't seem right if I had earnings.
Your understanding is partially correct, but there's a key distinction. When you convert from traditional to Roth, the IRS looks at the proportion of your basis to the total value across ALL your traditional IRAs, not just the one you're converting from. If you converted $7,204, and your total basis across all traditional IRAs was $13,500, then the taxable portion would be calculated using the ratio of non-deductible contributions to total IRA balances. However, if the $7,204 includes $704 of earnings on the original $6,500 contribution, those earnings should be taxable. The fact that line 4b on your 1040 is showing "rollover" but no amount suggests the software isn't calculating this correctly. You may need to manually enter the taxable amount there.
Has anyone used TurboTax for backdoor Roth reporting? I've been trying to get mine right and it's driving me crazy. I keep getting different numbers depending on what order I enter things.
I use TurboTax every year for my backdoor Roth. The trick is to enter the 1099-R first, THEN enter Form 8606 information. If you do it the other way around, it sometimes miscalculates the taxable amount. Also, make sure you're entering your prior year non-deductible contributions correctly on line 2 of Form 8606.
I filed my 2017 taxes back in 2020 (I had already filed my 2019 return and the IRS was holding onto my refund). I ended up owing for 2017, so they took a portion of my 2019 refund to cover the taxes and the late filing/payment penalties. According to my 2017 transcript, the balance showed zero as of August 2020. About a month after filing, I got a notice saying they used part of my 2019 refund to pay off 2017. I thought everything was settled... Then last week, I got a CP501 notice claiming I still owe taxes from 2017! I pulled my 2017 transcript a few days ago, and there were absolutely no changes to the original return - no additional income reported or changes to the tax amount owed. The only new thing is they added ANOTHER penalty for filing after the due date. I have no clue why they did this, except maybe they calculated it wrong initially? It's only like $27, and I could just pay it and be done. If nobody here has any insights, I might just do that instead of dealing with the nightmare of calling the IRS. My past experiences with their phone system don't leave me optimistic that I'll ever reach a human, or that they'll know anything more than what I already see. But I wanted to check if it's normal for them to randomly add extra penalties to a zero balance almost two years later?
Has anyone actually gotten through to the IRS using the normal phone numbers lately? I've been trying for THREE WEEKS to talk to someone about my CP501 notice. Every time I call, I either get the "we're too busy, call back later" message or get disconnected after waiting on hold for an hour.
I managed to get through last month but only by calling at exactly 7:00 AM Eastern when they first open. Even then I waited for 1.5 hours on hold. Tuesdays and Thursdays seem to be slightly better than Mondays from my experience.
For what it's worth, I had a similar situation with a CP501 for a small amount from a previous tax year that I thought was fully paid. I just went ahead and paid it online through the IRS Direct Pay system. Took about 3 minutes and I never received another notice. Sometimes the peace of mind is worth more than the $27, especially when you consider how much time you might spend trying to get it abated. Unless you're concerned this might happen again or there's a principle involved, sometimes it's just easier to pay it and move on.
Just looking through my work stuff and realized I have no clue when I'm supposed to get my W-2 for the 2021 tax year. I'm completely lost when it comes to tax documents and deadlines. Is it even available yet since 2021 isn't over? My tax appointment is coming up soon and my accountant expects me to have all my paperwork ready. I'm so confused about when these things are supposed to arrive and what I should be looking for. Anyone know the timeline for W-2s? Don't want to look stupid calling HR if it's way too early.
PRO TIP: Take photos of your W-2 as soon as you get it! I lost mine last year and had to request a replacement which delayed my filing by 3 weeks. Most employers can reissue them but it's a hassle and takes time. Also, check if your employer offers electronic W-2s through their payroll system (like ADP or Workday). I switched to electronic delivery and now I get mine as soon as they're ready instead of waiting for the mail.
Does the electronic version work the same for filing? My tax guy always wants the "official" form and I'm worried the electronic one won't count.
The electronic version is exactly the same as the paper one for tax filing purposes - it contains all the same information and is considered an "official" form by the IRS. Your tax preparer can use it just like the paper version. I actually find the electronic ones better because there's no risk of faded print that scanners can't read properly. Plus you can download it as a PDF and keep it stored safely without worrying about losing the physical copy. Just make sure you save it somewhere secure since it has your Social Security number on it.
anybody else's employer constantly mess up their W-2?? my last company put the wrong social security number on mine 2 years in a row! had to get corrected ones both times which delayed my refund for months. so frustrating!!
I filed my taxes back in March, but I'm pretty sure I messed up. I only reported the amount I actually withdrew ($450) from my content creator platform because I didn't receive any 1099 form. I still haven't gotten a 1099 and probably won't since I didn't hit the $600 threshold for them to send one. The problem is, according to my earnings dashboard, I technically earned around $720 total for the year, even though I only cashed out $450. Now I'm worried I need to amend my return, but I'm really confused about what I should be reporting. Do I need to report the full gross amount ($720) and then deduct the platform's 20% fee separately? Or should I just report the net amount after their cut? Or was I right to only report what I actually withdrew ($450) since I never got a 1099? I'm stressing out about doing this wrong and would really appreciate any advice! I don't want to get in trouble with the IRS over this :
One thing nobody's mentioned here - if your content creation is an ongoing business activity (not just a one-time thing), you should probably be making quarterly estimated tax payments going forward. Since platforms don't withhold taxes, you could end up with a penalty if you wait to pay everything at tax time. I learned this the hard way after my first year on YouTube. Had to pay a penalty because I didn't realize I needed to be making payments throughout the year once my income got high enough.
At what income level do you need to start doing the quarterly payments? I'm just starting out and made like $800 last year from my art channel.
The general rule is if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes for the year (after accounting for any withholding from other jobs), you should make quarterly payments. At $800 total income, you're probably fine waiting until tax time, especially if you have another job with withholding. But as your content income grows, keep an eye on it. Many creators don't realize they need to start making these payments until they get hit with penalties. I recommend setting aside 25-30% of your creator earnings for taxes just to be safe.
I'm in the same boat - Etsy seller here! One question: do we need to keep track of all those little deposits separately? My platform puts money in my account like 20+ times a month for different sales.
You don't need to track each individual deposit for tax purposes. What matters is the total income for the year. However, keeping a spreadsheet of your deposits can help you reconcile your total earnings against what the platform reports. What I do is download the annual tax summary from Etsy, which shows gross sales, fees, shipping costs, etc. That's the document you'll use for your Schedule C, not your bank deposits (which won't show fees taken out).
Andre Laurent
Have you looked into whether your 17-year-olds qualify as Qualifying Children vs Qualifying Relatives? The age requirements and support tests are different, which might help. Also, if either child has any income of their own, there could be strategies around how you claim them. I had this issue last year and found that by having my 18-year-old file their own return (they had a part-time job) but still claiming them as a dependent, I was able to optimize our family's overall tax situation.
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Luca Esposito
AuthorOne of my kids did work a summer job and made about $3,800 last year. How would that change things? Should they file their own return? Would I still claim them as a dependent?
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Andre Laurent
Yes, your child should definitely file their own return for that summer job income. The good news is that you can still claim them as a dependent on your return as long as you provided more than half of their support for the year and they meet the other dependent tests. When they file their own return, they'll check the box indicating "Someone can claim you as a dependent." This is actually beneficial because while you still get whatever dependent benefits you qualify for, they may get some of their withholding back if too much was taken from their paychecks. It's not a major tax strategy that will eliminate your $2500 liability, but every bit helps, and it's teaching them about tax responsibility too.
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Emily Jackson
Not sure if this helps but I'm in almost the same boat. Does the homeownership help you at all? I wasn't sure if I should itemize or take the standard deduction. My mortgage interest was around $9,200 and property taxes about $4,500.
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Liam Mendez
With mortgage interest of $9,200 and property taxes of $4,500, you're at $13,700 just from those two items. Add in state income taxes (up to the SALT limit) and any charitable contributions, and you might exceed the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers, $20,800 for head of household in 2023). Run the numbers both ways to see which gives you the better result. But remember, even if itemizing only saves you a few hundred dollars over the standard deduction, that's still money in your pocket.
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