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I'm a twitch streamer and we deal with this all the time. Easiest solution is honestly just to use a payment app like Venmo/PayPal and send the money as "friends and family" instead of for goods and services. No tax forms, no paperwork. Just between friends.
That's technically tax evasion though. The IRS doesn't care what payment method you use - income is income. Your friends are still supposed to report that money as taxable income, and you're supposed to deduct it properly as a business expense with documentation.
I mean, I'm just sharing what most creators do in practice, not saying it's 100% by the book. You're right that technically all income should be reported. I guess a better suggestion would be to keep payments under the $600 threshold when possible if you want to minimize paperwork, but still document everything properly on your end so you can deduct those expenses. Even if you don't issue a 1099, you can still claim those payments as legitimate business expenses with proper documentation.
Why not just make everything a gift? The gift tax threshold is $17,000 per year per person. As long as you don't pay any single friend more than that amount in a year, neither of you would need to worry about taxes on it at all!
That's not how it works. If you're paying someone for services or work they've done for your business, it's not a gift - it's compensation. The IRS looks at the nature of the payment, not what you call it. Calling business payments "gifts" to avoid taxes is misrepresentation that could get you in trouble.
Has anyone actually filled out the BOI report yet? I'm looking at the requirements and they want my home address... I use a PO Box for everything business related for privacy reasons. Can I use that instead? Don't really want my home address in some government database that could get hacked.
You HAVE to use your residential address on the BOI form. I tried using my business address and my application got rejected. Had to resubmit with my home address. The whole point of this law is transparency about who actually owns these companies, so they're strict about it.
Well that sucks but thanks for the info. I guess I'll have to use my home address then. Just feels like a privacy invasion when I've been so careful about keeping my home address separate from my business for so long.
Question for anyone who's gone through this: does my accountant count as a "company applicant" who also needs to be listed on the BOI report? My LLC was formed by my accountant on my behalf back in 2020.
For existing companies formed before January 1, 2024, you don't need to report company applicant information at all - just the beneficial owners. If your LLC was formed in 2020, you only need to report yourself as the beneficial owner, not your accountant who helped set it up. If your LLC had been formed after January 1, 2024, then yes, you would need to include your accountant as a company applicant since they filed the formation documents for you.
Thank you so much! That's a huge relief - my accountant retired and moved to Florida so I wasn't sure how I was going to get all his information for the filing.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're under 59½ and took distributions from retirement accounts, look into the exceptions to the 10% early withdrawal penalty. There are several that might apply depending on your situation: - First-time home purchase (up to $10k) - Qualified education expenses - Certain medical expenses - Health insurance premiums while unemployed - Disability - Series of substantially equal periodic payments Just because you took early distributions doesn't automatically mean you'll owe the 10% penalty on all of it.
Do any of these exceptions apply to purchasing rental property specifically? I thought these were mostly for primary residences, not investment properties.
Unfortunately, the first-time homebuyer exception only applies to a primary residence, not rental properties. None of the exceptions specifically cover investment property purchases. However, if you used the SEPP (Substantially Equal Periodic Payments) method to access your retirement funds, that could potentially avoid the 10% penalty regardless of how you used the money. But that's a very specific method that must be set up properly in advance and continued for at least 5 years or until age 59½, whichever is longer.
What tax software are people using for rental properties? I used TurboTax last year and it didn't seem to handle my rental very well.
Has anyone here worked with a specific tax attorney they would recommend? I've been looking at reviews online but it's hard to know who's legitimate versus who just has good marketing.
I worked with Johnson Tax Law in Chicago and had a really good experience. They specialize in tax resolution and don't make unrealistic promises like some of the big advertised firms. They were upfront about costs and what could realistically be achieved.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - depending on how old some of your tax debt is, you might be bumping up against the 10-year statute of limitations for IRS collections. Worth checking the dates of your assessments, because anything approaching that timeframe gives you additional leverage in negotiations. Also, if you're liquidating stocks, be careful about the timing to minimize additional tax implications. The last thing you need is a big capital gains hit while trying to resolve existing tax debt.
That's a great point about the collection statute. Some of this debt is from 2018-2019, so not quite close to the 10-year mark yet. And thank you for the reminder about capital gains - I hadn't even thought about how liquidating stocks would affect this year's taxes. Definitely need to be strategic about that.
Connor O'Reilly
Regarding the discrepancy between your actual earnings and what's on the 1099-NEC - this happened to me last year. Turns out the company only issues 1099s for amounts over a certain threshold to each vendor, BUT you still need to report ALL income you earned regardless of whether you received a form for it. You should contact the company and ask why there's a difference. If they confirm they only reported part of your earnings, you'll need to add the additional income on Schedule C as "income not reported on 1099-NEC" or something similar. Better to report everything now than deal with an IRS notice later when they match your bank deposits against reported income!
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NeonNomad
ā¢Thanks for this advice! I just contacted the company and you're exactly right - they have a policy of only issuing 1099-NECs for amounts over $600 per project, and I had several smaller projects that added up to the missing amount. They confirmed I should still report everything. How specifically do I add this to my tax return? Is there a specific line or form for "income not reported on 1099-NEC"?
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Connor O'Reilly
ā¢You'll report all your self-employment income on Schedule C, regardless of whether it was on a 1099 or not. There's not actually a separate line for "income not reported on 1099-NEC" - I was simplifying a bit there. The total income you report on Schedule C should be everything you earned from your business, and the IRS doesn't actually require you to break out what was or wasn't on a 1099 on this form. If you're using tax software, there's usually a section where you enter 1099-NEC information, but there should also be a way to add additional self-employment income. Just make sure your total Schedule C gross receipts equals all the money you received from your business activities.
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Yara Khoury
Anyone know if the freelance tax rules changed recently? Last year I paid WAY more than the OP is being asked to pay on similar income. I used TurboTax tho, not FreeTaxPortal.
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Keisha Taylor
ā¢The basics haven't changed much but the standard deduction amount increases slightly each year. The bigger difference might be that you didn't claim as many business deductions? Also, your income from other sources could affect it. Self-employment taxes are pretty consistent at around 15.3% of net business profit.
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