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Can I lower my AGI to qualify for EITC with 3 kids?

I'm really close to qualifying for the Earned Income Tax Credit with my three kids - just about $800 over the threshold when combining my income with my wife's W-2s. We have a small amount of interest from our credit union account, but from what I understand, that doesn't count toward EITC calculations anyway. The thing is, we don't currently have any retirement contributions happening. I'm wondering if we could open an IRA and throw in a few thousand dollars to get our AGI below the threshold for this year? Would that actually work for EITC purposes? And if we did this, would whoever we set up the IRA with mail us some kind of form showing our contributions? Would it arrive in time for tax filing season? Basically just trying to figure out the smartest approach here to maximize our tax benefits. Any advice on the best way to handle this situation would be super appreciated!

Don't forget that you can also potentially lower your AGI through HSA contributions if you have a high-deductible health plan! We were in a similar situation and contributed to both an IRA and maxed out our HSA to get under the EITC threshold. The nice thing about HSA is that the money can be used tax-free for medical expenses, so it's like a double benefit.

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I hadn't even considered the HSA option! We do have a high-deductible plan through my wife's work. Do HSA contributions have the same deadline as IRA contributions where we can make them up until tax day?

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Yes, HSA contributions follow the same deadline as IRA contributions! You can make contributions for the previous tax year up until the tax filing deadline (usually April 15th). Your HSA provider will give you the option to designate which tax year the contribution is for when you make it between January and April. For 2025, the contribution limit for family coverage is $8,300 (it may be adjusted for inflation), which gives you significant room to reduce your AGI. The great part about HSAs is that unlike FSAs, the money never expires, and you can invest it for the long term if you don't need it for immediate medical expenses.

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Just be careful about investment income when qualifying for EITC. Even if you reduce your AGI with IRA contributions, you still need to have investment income below $11,000 for 2025. This includes interest, dividends, capital gains, etc. You mentioned credit union interest - make sure all your investment income combined stays below this threshold.

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Wait, really? I thought EITC was just based on AGI and number of kids. What's this about investment income? Now I'm worried because I sold some stocks this year...

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Need help filing for an extension online - where do I send Form 4868 and how do I estimate taxes owed?

I'm in a bit of a panic and need to file for an extension ASAP. One of my employers hasn't sent my W-2 yet, and they're closed until April 15th (literally Tax Day). I've been trying to figure out how to submit Form 4868 online but getting super confused about the whole process. Where exactly do I submit this form? Do I just go through my usual tax software, or is there a separate IRS portal I need to use? And when I get to the part about estimating taxes, I'm completely lost on how to calculate what I might owe without having all my documentation. Do I just make an educated guess based on last year's return? I don't want to underpay and get hit with penalties, but also can't accurately calculate everything without that missing W-2. Any guidance would be super appreciated - especially if you've dealt with filing extensions before! This is my first time needing one and I'm honestly freaking out a little.

Quick tip: If you're filing an extension because you're missing a W-2, you should also fill out Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) when you eventually file your taxes. You can use your last paystub to complete this form. I had to do this last year when my employer went bankrupt and never sent final W-2s.

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Thanks for this tip about Form 4852! I didn't know that was an option. Do you have to try contacting your employer first before using this form? And did you face any issues with the IRS accepting your return with the substitute form?

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Yes, you should make a reasonable effort to get your W-2 from your employer first. The form asks you to describe the steps you took to obtain the missing W-2. In my case, I documented my calls to the company's HR department and the bankruptcy trustee. I didn't have any issues with the IRS accepting my return with Form 4852. Just make sure your income and withholding estimates are as accurate as possible using your last paystub. If your employer eventually sends a W-2 that differs significantly from your estimates, you might need to file an amended return, but in my experience the paystub information was very close to what would have been on the W-2.

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Has anyone had experience with what happens if you file an extension but your estimate is WAY off? Like if i estimate I owe $2000 but it turns out to be $5000 when I finally do my taxes, am I screwed with penalties??

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I accidentally underestimated by about $3k last year. Got hit with the failure-to-pay penalty (0.5% per month on the unpaid amount) plus interest. For me it ended up being about $120 in penalties total. Not the end of the world but definitely avoidable if you can estimate better.

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I've found that if you can show you made a "good faith effort" to estimate correctly, sometimes the IRS will waive the penalties. Document everything about why your estimate was off. In my case, I had a surprise capital gains distribution from a mutual fund that I didn't know about when filing the extension, and the IRS accepted my explanation and waived most of the penalties.

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Significant other hasn't filed taxes in over 3 years as a 1099 contractor. What could happen?

I've been with my boyfriend for about 2 years now, and he works in the roofing industry as a subcontractor. He receives 1099 forms from the various companies he does jobs for. Recently we've been talking more seriously about our future and possibly purchasing our first home together next spring. Last night during dinner when I brought up getting pre-approved for a mortgage, he got really quiet and finally admitted he hasn't filed his taxes in over 3 years. He's been receiving 1099s but just never filed returns for 2021, 2022, or 2023. He said he always meant to get caught up but just kept putting it off, and now he's worried about what might happen. I'm completely shocked since I've always been diligent about filing my W-2 taxes on time. What kind of consequences could he be facing? Will this completely destroy our chances of getting approved for a mortgage? Could he face criminal charges? What's the process for getting him caught up on all these missing years? He makes around $65,000-70,000 annually according to his 1099s. I'm trying not to panic but also need to understand what we're dealing with here.

Your bf needs to be upfront with you about everything before you buy a house together. Not filing for 3+ years as a 1099 contractor means he probably owes a LOT in back taxes, penalties, and interest. Plus he's missed years of Social Security contributions which affects retirement. My ex was in construction too and hid his tax problems until after we were married. Ended up with a $47k tax bill and a lien on our house. Don't make my mistake.

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Thank you for the warning. I'm definitely concerned about what else might be lurking that I don't know about. Do you think we should postpone house hunting until this is completely resolved? How long did it take your ex to get everything cleared up?

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Absolutely postpone house hunting until this is 100% resolved. You don't want your dream home connected to his tax issues in any way. It took my ex almost 18 months to get everything sorted out and set up on a payment plan, and that was with hiring a tax resolution firm. Besides the immediate tax issues, consider this a pretty big red flag about financial responsibility and communication. Not filing taxes for multiple years doesn't happen by accident - it's a series of deliberate choices. Before joining finances in any way (including a mortgage), make sure you're comfortable with his approach to money and obligations.

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Don't panic! I'm in construction too and got 4 years behind on taxes. What saved me was all my legitimate business deductions: - Mileage to/from jobsites - Tools and equipment - Work clothes/boots/safety gear - Cell phone (% used for work) - Supplies and materials - Insurance - Continuing education/certifications Get him to collect ALL receipts and bank statements. If he paid for anything related to work, it might be deductible. This brought my tax bill down by like 40%!

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This is good advice but some of those deductions might not be allowed. Like the IRS doesn't consider regular commuting as deductible mileage, only travel between job sites. And clothes have to be specialized for the job, not just stuff you could wear elsewhere.

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Can my parents claim deductions for medical expenses they paid for me?

So last year was rough for me mentally. I went through a nasty breakup and started drinking way too much to cope - not proud of it, but that's what happened. I'm 27 now and can't be claimed as a dependent on my parents' taxes. My parents ended up paying for my rehab/detox program because they're absolutely amazing people. They keep telling me I'll get a significant tax refund this year because of these medical expenses, but I'm super confused about this. It doesn't make sense to me that I would claim these expenses on MY taxes when THEY paid the bills. But they seem convinced there's some tax benefit for me here. I've tried looking up the rules but everything I find is kinda vague. Is there some tax law that would let me deduct medical expenses my parents paid for? Or are they confused and actually THEY would get the deduction on THEIR taxes? Thanks for any help figuring this out!

Have you or your parents kept all the receipts and documentation for these expenses? That's going to be super important regardless of who might be eligible to claim them. My mom tried to claim medical expenses for my sister last year and got audited because she didn't have proper documentation from the treatment facility showing exactly what was paid and when. Make sure whoever claims these expenses has every single piece of paper!

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Yes, thankfully my parents are super organized with this stuff. They have every receipt, invoice, and payment confirmation from the treatment center. They even have records of the insurance claims that were denied (which is why they had to pay out of pocket). I guess the bigger question is still whether anyone can actually claim these expenses given that I'm not a dependent. Sounds like I need to look more into that "qualifying relative" test that others mentioned.

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That's great that your parents kept everything. Those records will be essential if they end up being able to claim the expenses. Definitely look into the qualifying relative test. The main things they'll need to prove are: 1) that they provided more than half your support for the year, 2) that your gross income was below the threshold (around $4,500 for 2025), 3) that you lived with them all year (though there are exceptions for temporary absences including rehab), and 4) that you're related to them. If you meet all those tests, they might be able to claim both you as a dependent and the medical expenses.

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one thing nobody has mentioned is that medical expenses have to be REALLY high to actually be deductible. like they gotta be more than 7.5% of your adjusted gross income AND you have to itemize deductions instead of taking the standard deduction. so if your parents make like $100k, they'd need more than $7,500 in TOTAL medical expenses before they could start deducting anything. and the standard deduction for married filing jointly is like $30,000 for 2025, so their itemized deductions would need to exceed that to be worth it.

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This is super important! I learned this the hard way last year. Had about $8k in medical expenses but couldn't deduct a penny because my AGI was too high and the standard deduction was better anyway. Such a disappointment after saving all those receipts.

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Best strategies when working through a 433-A for Currently Not Collectible (CNC) or Offer in Compromise (OIC)?

So we're dealing with a tax mess right now and working through Form 433-A to get either CNC status or maybe an OIC with the IRS. Here's our situation - we currently have 4 older vehicles that are all paid off, but we're thinking about trading them in for 2 newer financed vehicles. The problem is that 3 of our 4 cars are so old that dealers won't even consider them for trade-in. We're wondering about the collection implications if we sell these privately and document that every penny from those private sales goes directly into down payments for the two new financed vehicles. Will the IRS collection officer be satisfied with this approach? I'm trying to understand if trading up to fewer but newer vehicles with higher documented ownership costs might actually help our case for CNC or OIC. Has anyone gone through something similar when working with the IRS on a 433-A? Any advice would be really appreciated!

One thing nobody's mentioned yet - watch out for the timing of your 433-A submission relative to these vehicle transactions. If you submit the 433-A showing 4 paid-off vehicles, then make these changes right after, it could look like you're trying to manipulate your asset situation. I learned this the hard way. I'd consider completing the vehicle transactions FIRST, then submitting the 433-A showing the 2 financed vehicles. That way there's no appearance of trying to quickly change your asset profile after IRS has already started reviewing your situation.

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But wouldn't waiting to submit the 433-A just delay the whole process more? My revenue officer keeps pressuring me to submit mine ASAP and I'm in a similar situation with wanting to consolidate vehicles.

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If your revenue officer is already involved and pressuring you for the 433-A, communication becomes key. I'd recommend being upfront with them about your vehicle plans before making any changes. Explain that you're planning to consolidate vehicles to reduce overall expenses and improve reliability, not to hide assets. In my experience, most ROs appreciate transparency and would rather you be honest about upcoming changes than submit information that will be immediately outdated. You could even ask if they prefer you to submit the 433-A with current information and an addendum explaining the planned vehicle changes, or if they'd prefer you complete the transactions first. This proactive approach usually works better than trying to time things without their knowledge.

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Has anyone actually had success getting CNC status after trading in vehicles for newer ones? I've heard the IRS scrutinizes any upward movement in asset quality.

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Yes, I actually did this successfully. The key was showing that the monthly expenses for the 2 newer vehicles were actually LOWER than maintaining the 4 older ones (repair costs, insurance, etc). I provided 2 years of maintenance receipts for the old cars to prove they were money pits.

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