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I'm confused about something else in the original post. If both you and your husband were over the income limit for Roth IRA contributions in 2021, why did you contribute directly to Roth IRAs in the first place? Wouldn't it have been simpler to just contribute to traditional IRAs and then convert? Was this intentional or did you realize you were over the limit after making the contributions?
Many people don't know exactly what their annual income will be until late in the year, especially if they get bonuses or have variable income. It's pretty common for people to contribute to Roth IRAs throughout the year and then discover at year-end that they've exceeded the income limits, requiring a recharacterization.
Exactly what the other commenter said - we contribute monthly to our IRAs throughout the year, and we didn't realize until December that a bonus and some unexpected consulting income had pushed us over the limit. By then we had already made full contributions to our Roth IRAs for the year. Honestly, we'd never had to do a backdoor Roth before, so the whole process was new to us. Next time we'll just contribute to Traditional and convert right away since our income will likely be over the limit again.
Make sure you also check your Social Security statement to see if someone is reporting wages under your SSN! I had a similar 1099-K issue that turned out to be part of a larger identity theft. The thieves had also gotten jobs using my SSN. You can check this online by creating an account at ssa.gov. If you see any earnings you don't recognize, report it immediately!
How far back should you check your SSA records? Just the current year or should you go back several years to be safe?
You should definitely check at least the past three years. Identity thieves sometimes start small to see if you notice before ramping up their activity. In my case, they had actually used my information for almost two years before I caught it. Also, while you're on the SSA website, set up account notifications so you'll be alerted to any future changes or activity. This way you'll know immediately if someone tries to use your SSN for employment again.
Has anyone dealt with getting a 1099-K from PayPal where some of the transactions were legitimate but the total amount was way off? My situation is slightly different - I do have a PayPal account, but my 1099-K shows about $9k more than I actually received last year.
This happened to me! In my case, PayPal had counted some transactions twice. Also, they were counting the full amount of money that moved through my account, including stuff that wasn't income (like when friends reimbursed me for group purchases). You need to contact PayPal tax department specifically, not just regular customer service, and request a corrected form.
I'm a little late to this, but there's an important distinction no one has mentioned yet. There are actually two different penalties that could be at play here: 1. Failure-to-file penalty: 5% of unpaid taxes each month (max 25%) 2. Failure-to-pay penalty: 0.5% of unpaid taxes each month (max 25%) The extension prevented the big failure-to-file penalty, but you're still on the hook for the failure-to-pay penalty since the money was due April 18th. Plus interest, which compounds daily. Your accountant should have estimated what you owed and advised you to make a payment by the deadline even if the return wasn't ready. That's where they dropped the ball.
Thanks for breaking that down! So basically, even though the extension was filed, I should have made an estimated payment by April 18th to avoid the failure-to-pay penalty? Is there any recourse now, or am I just stuck with these fees?
Exactly right. The extension only gives more time for paperwork, not payment. For future reference, always make your best estimate payment by the deadline even if your return isn't ready. As for recourse now, your best option is to request a First Time Penalty Abatement if you've had a clean tax record for the past 3 years. You can call the IRS directly or use the number on your bill to request this. The interest typically can't be removed, but the failure-to-pay penalty often can be if it's your first infraction. Just explain the situation with your accountant's poor communication, and they're usually pretty reasonable.
Am I the only one stuck on the fact that the accountant added the wrong dependent information? That seems like a bigger issue than the extension! You should double-check everything else on the return because that's a pretty significant error. What tax software does your accountant use? Some of the professional ones are better than others at catching errors.
Not all tax software is created equal. I've used ProSeries and Lacerte professionally, and they have very different error checking capabilities. But honestly, good accountants should be manually reviewing returns anyway, not just relying on software to catch mistakes.
Don't overlook the importance of a bank that understands the seasonality of tax preparation businesses. I'd recommend Chase Business Complete Banking - they have reasonable fees that can be waived multiple ways and understand the feast/famine cycle of seasonal businesses. Their online portal is decent and they offer a business credit card that can help with early-season expenses before client payments start rolling in. The main advantage is they have branches everywhere if you need to make cash deposits or get a cashier's check quickly.
Do you think the size of the bank matters? I was leaning toward a local credit union, but wondering if a national bank might be better for a tax business specifically.
Size definitely matters, but there are pros and cons to both approaches. National banks typically offer more sophisticated online tools and wider ATM networks, which is helpful if you travel to meet clients. Credit unions often provide more personalized service and better rates, plus they're more likely to work with you if you have special circumstances. For a tax business where trust is paramount, having a relationship with a local banker who knows you can actually help build credibility with clients.
Anyone tried Bank of America for their tax prep business? Their monthly fee is killing me but I'm worried switching banks will be a huge hassle in the middle of getting my business off the ground.
Levi Parker
Pro tip from someone who handles RSUs regularly: Always keep documentation from each vesting event, especially the fair market value on vesting date. This is your cost basis, and you need it to avoid exactly this situation. I create a spreadsheet each year with columns for: - Vesting date - Number of shares - FMV at vesting - Total value (reported as income on W-2) - Sale date - Sale price - Gain/loss since vesting (this is what goes on Schedule D) This makes tax time so much easier and helps prevent these IRS notices.
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Libby Hassan
•Is there any software that does this tracking automatically? Seems like a lot of manual work if you have monthly or quarterly vestings.
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Levi Parker
•There are several options for automatic tracking. Most of the major brokerages (Schwab, Fidelity, E*Trade) have reporting features that attempt to track this, but honestly they're often inaccurate for RSUs specifically. I've found that dedicated equity compensation tools like Carta, StockOpter, or even some features in tools like Personal Capital can help with tracking. There are also some newer fintech apps specifically for equity compensation, but I still recommend maintaining your own spreadsheet as a backup. Once you set it up initially, it only takes a few minutes to update each vesting period.
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Hunter Hampton
Something else to consider - check if your employer offered a "sell-to-cover" option where they automatically sold some shares to cover the tax withholding at vesting. If so, your W-2 already includes the income from the RSUs, and you only need to report any additional gain or loss that occurred between vesting and when you sold the remaining shares. When I had my IRS notice for unreported stock sales, I found out my company had only withheld at 22% for federal taxes, but I was in the 32% bracket, which created additional confusion.
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Sofia Peña
•This is such an important point! My company does withholding at vesting but only at 22%, and I got hit with a huge tax bill my first year with RSUs because I didn't realize I needed to make estimated tax payments on the difference. The whole RSU taxation system is unnecessarily complicated.
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