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So I'm in a bit of a situation for next year where I'll end up owing around $54k to the IRS for federal taxes. The good news is I won't get hit with an underpayment penalty since I've already paid about 110% of what I paid last year. While researching options, I stumbled across this thing about requesting an extension for filing. From what I understand, I could just pay $1 when requesting the extension and give some reason for needing more time. This seems like such an obvious loophole that I'm wondering why everyone doesn't just do this? Am I missing something here? Is there a downside to filing for an extension if you know you're going to owe a bunch? Would love to hear from anyone who's done this before or knows the ins and outs of tax extensions.
I recently had an accounting issue that required me to amend my 2020 tax return. My accountant is handling the e-filing of the 1040-X amended return, but he gave me instructions to mail a check with form 1040-V to the IRS for the additional taxes I owe from that year. I'm in a bit of a financial squeeze right now, and I'd really prefer to put this payment on my credit card to give me some breathing room (plus I could earn some rewards points). I know you can pay taxes through payusatax.com and other services, even though they charge a convenience fee. My question is: Can I use payusatax.com to pay the additional tax due from my amended 2020 return? Or am I stuck with having to mail a physical check with the 1040-V as my accountant suggested? Has anyone done this before with an amended return from a previous tax year?
One thing to watch out for when paying amended returns with credit cards - make sure you select the right tax year and form type. I made a payment through payusatax.com for my amended 2020 return, but I accidentally selected just regular "Form 1040" instead of "Form 1040-X" or "Amended Return" in the payment options. It took the IRS over 3 months to properly apply my payment since it wasn't immediately clear it was for an amended return. I had to call them multiple times to get it sorted out. So double check all your selections before submitting the payment!
Does selecting the wrong option cause interest to keep accruing in the meantime? I'm already paying a pretty big amount for my amended return from 2020 and don't want to get hit with even more interest and penalties.
Yes, unfortunately. Since the payment wasn't properly applied right away, the IRS system didn't recognize that I had paid, so interest continued to accrue for about 2 months until they sorted it out. I did eventually get them to remove the additional interest charges since I could prove I made the payment on time, but it took multiple phone calls and a formal request. The whole hassle could have been avoided if I had just selected the correct form type during the payment process.
Has anyone actually calculated if the convenience fee is worth it compared to just writing a check? I'm curious because I have to pay about $1,300 for my amended 2020 return, and the fee seems kind of high just to get some credit card points.
It really depends on your credit card rewards. The fee is usually around 1.96-2.20% depending on which service you use. So on $1,300, you're looking at roughly $25-29 in fees. If your card gives you 2% cash back, you're basically breaking even. If you get more (like with travel rewards cards), you might come out ahead. For me, the bigger value was being able to delay the actual payment until my credit card bill was due, giving me another 3-4 weeks to come up with the money. That flexibility was worth the small fee.
I'm the lead accountant at a mid-sized manufacturing company. We've been growing rapidly and now sell our products to customers in about 30 different states. The sales tax situation is becoming a complete nightmare to manage! Each state seems to have their own weird rules for economic nexus thresholds, different tax rates by county/city, and some tax delivery charges while others don't. We're doing about $3.8 million in sales annually now, and I'm drowning in trying to keep all the jurisdictional rules straight. I've got one part-time assistant helping me, but we're falling behind on compliance. One state wanted to audit us because we missed filing for two quarters! How do other small accounting departments handle multi-state sales tax compliance? Is there some magical spreadsheet system you've developed? Or is it time to bite the bullet and invest in tax automation software? I've heard about Avalara but would love to hear about other people's experiences before making a recommendation to my boss.
We're a small business selling in about 15 states, and we use a mix of automation and manual processes. For the 5 states where we have the most sales, we use Avalara to calculate and file automatically. For the other states where we have minimal sales, we do quarterly manual calculations and filings. This hybrid approach saves us money while still providing automation where it matters most. We set thresholds - any state where we do more than $50K in annual sales gets moved to the automated system.
Smart approach! Do you ever worry about missing economic nexus triggers in those manually-tracked states though? Some states have really low thresholds now.
That's actually a valid concern. We do a quarterly check against all state thresholds as part of our process. We track transaction counts and revenue by state in our ERP system, so I've built a simple dashboard that flags when we're approaching a threshold. The states with the lowest thresholds (like $100K in sales or 200 transactions) are the ones we put on Avalara immediately just to be safe. The manual states are typically those with higher thresholds or where we have just a handful of customers.
Anyone using any of the free resources? The Streamlined Sales Tax Governing Board website has some decent tools, and the Federation of Tax Administrators maintains a database of state tax rates. I cant afford the fancy software yet and im just collecting in 4 states.
Good news for retirement savers! I just saw that the IRS announced the retirement account contribution limits for 2024. For 401(k) plans, the limit is going up to $23,000 and IRAs will be $7,000! I've been trying to max out my retirement savings each year and was wondering if anyone knows how much these limits increased from 2023? Also, does anyone know if the catch-up contributions for people over 50 changed too? I'm turning 50 next year and want to take advantage of that extra savings opportunity. Does this mean I should adjust my contributions at work now for next year? I currently put in about 15% to my 401(k) but maybe I should increase it if the limits are going up.
Does anyone know if the income limits for contributing to a Roth IRA are also changing for 2024? With the contribution limit going up to $7,000, I'm wondering if the income thresholds are increasing too.
Yes! The income phase-out range for Roth IRA contributions is increasing for 2024. For single filers, the phase-out range is $146,000 to $161,000 (up from $138,000-$153,000 in 2023). For married filing jointly, it's $230,000-$240,000 (up from $218,000-$228,000). So if you were just above the limit last year, you might be eligible for at least partial Roth contributions in 2024!
Do these new limits apply to 403(b) plans too? My university job offers a 403(b) instead of a 401(k) and I'm never sure if the rules are the same.
Yes, the $23,000 contribution limit for 2024 applies to 403(b) plans as well! The elective deferral limits are the same for 401(k)s, 403(b)s, most 457 plans, and the federal government's Thrift Savings Plan. The $7,500 catch-up contribution for those 50+ also applies to your 403(b). Additionally, 403(b) plans sometimes have a special catch-up provision for employees with 15+ years of service at the same eligible employer, which can allow for additional contributions beyond the standard limits.
Hey tax folks! My husband and I are trying to figure out our itemized deductions for the first time and could use some guidance. We're both W2 employees with no side income (we live in California). We have a mortgage and I'm trying to put together a list of all possible deductions we could take advantage of. So far I've got: - Child tax credit (though I know this isn't an itemized deduction) - Charitable donations - Mortgage interest & points (this alone is higher than the standard deduction of $29,200) - State and local tax cap of $10k - Vehicle registration fees (I think this counts toward the $10k SALT cap?) Our state income tax already hits that $10k limit, so I'm not sure we can benefit from our property taxes unless there's some way to use them when the combined amount exceeds $10k? Are there other deductions we might be missing? This is our first time itemizing and I want to make sure we're not leaving money on the table. Thanks for any help!
Don't forget unreimbursed job expenses if either of you is a qualified performing artist, fee-basis state or local government official, or an employee with disability-related work expenses. Most other unreimbursed job expenses aren't deductible anymore for W2 employees unfortunately. Also, if either of you paid student loan interest (up to $2,500), that's an adjustment to income rather than an itemized deduction, but still worth claiming!
Thanks for mentioning student loan interest! We both finished paying ours off last year, so we might be able to deduct the interest from those final payments. Is that something we report on a different form than the itemized deductions?
Student loan interest is reported on Schedule 1 as an adjustment to income (sometimes called an "above-the-line deduction"), which means you can claim it even if you take the standard deduction. It's not part of your itemized deductions at all. You should receive Form 1098-E from your loan servicer showing how much interest you paid. The deduction starts phasing out at higher income levels though, so depending on your combined income, you might get a partial deduction or none at all.
Don't bother with itemizing unless your total exceeds the standard deduction by a significant amount. I spent hours tracking everything down last year and ended up saving only $340 by itemizing. Not worth the hassle or audit risk imo.
Thais Soares
Just to add another perspective - I extend every single year and have for the past decade. I'm a small business owner, and my K-1s never arrive before the April deadline. Here's what I do: 1. I make a conservative estimate of what I'll owe (usually overestimating slightly) 2. I pay that amount with my extension request (Form 4868) 3. I file my actual return in September when I have everything I've never once paid a penalty because I'm careful to pay enough with the extension. The key thing most people miss is that an extension is only for FILING, not for PAYING.
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Nalani Liu
Do you use a tax professional to help with the estimate or do you just figure it out yourself? I'm worried about getting the estimate wrong.
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Thais Soares
I work with my accountant to make the estimate, but you could definitely do it yourself if you understand your tax situation well. The safest approach is to slightly overestimate what you'll owe. If you end up overpaying, you'll just get that money back as a refund when you file your actual return. For a DIY approach, you can use your previous year's tax return as a starting point and adjust for any major changes in income or deductions. The IRS mainly wants to see that you're making a good faith effort to pay what you reasonably believe you'll owe.
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Axel Bourke
Whatever you do, DON'T just pay $1 with your extension if you know you'll owe $54k. That's a recipe for disaster with penalties and interest. The failure-to-pay penalty is usually 0.5% of unpaid taxes per month, and interest compounds daily on top of that! A better strategy would be to either pay the full amount you expect to owe with your extension OR set up an installment plan with the IRS. They're actually pretty reasonable to work with if you're proactive.
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Aidan Percy
True. I owed about $35k two years ago and couldn't pay it all at once. Set up an installment plan and the process was surprisingly easy. Just had to fill out Form 9465 and was approved pretty quickly.
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