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Great question! You're dealing with what's called "pre-rental" expenses, and the good news is that most of what you described should be deductible. Since you inherited the property in January and placed it in service in October of the same year, with clear intent to rent it out, those repair expenses should qualify for deduction. The key distinction is that repairs like fixing plumbing, patching roof leaks, and general maintenance are typically deductible in the year paid, even if done before officially renting. However, that water heater replacement would likely be considered a capital improvement that needs to be depreciated over 27.5 years (unless it qualifies for the de minimis safe harbor if under $2,500). Make sure to keep detailed records showing your rental intent from the beginning - any correspondence with contractors, rental market research, listing attempts, etc. This documentation will support your position if the IRS ever questions the timing of these deductions. Also consider whether you might qualify for Section 199A deductions on your rental income once you start receiving it - it's worth looking into for additional tax savings!

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This is really helpful, thanks! I'm definitely going to look into that Section 199A deduction - I had no idea that was even a thing for rental properties. Quick follow-up question: for the documentation you mentioned about showing rental intent, would things like getting insurance quotes for rental coverage or researching comparable rent prices in the area count as evidence? I did both of those things back in February/March while I was planning the repairs.

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Justin Chang

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Just to add another perspective from someone who's been through multiple property acquisitions - timing documentation is absolutely crucial for pre-rental expenses. I learned this the hard way when the IRS audited one of my rental properties a few years back. Beyond what others have mentioned, I'd also suggest documenting any property inspections you had done, communications with property management companies (even if you didn't hire them), and any advertisements or listings you may have posted. The IRS wants to see a clear "business purpose" timeline. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking all expenses by category (repairs vs. improvements) with dates and descriptions. It made tax prep so much easier and showed the IRS I was treating this as a legitimate business from day one. Also worth noting - if you did any work yourself on the property, you can't deduct your own labor, but you can deduct materials and any tools you purchased specifically for the rental property work.

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Vera Visnjic

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This is such solid advice! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that from the beginning. I'm definitely going to create one now even though I'm a bit late to the game. Quick question about the tools - if I bought a drill or other tools that I'll use for multiple properties (not just this one), can I still deduct the full cost or do I need to prorate it somehow? I bought quite a few tools this year that I'll definitely be using for maintenance on all my rentals going forward. Also, did the IRS audit end up going smoothly for you with all that documentation? I'm always nervous about getting audited, especially with rental properties since the rules seem so complex.

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Dealing with Online Casino Tax Rules - So Absurd I Could Cry

Welcome to tax season, where I'm learning that the tax rules for online gambling are absolutely absurd. I deposited $125 into an online casino back in September, managed to win about $65,000, and ended up wagering around $63,500 cumulatively. I never went into negative territory. Now I'm finding out my standard deduction is completely gone, my AGI is increased by $31,000, and I'll owe approximately $4,200 in additional taxes. Here's where it gets ridiculous - gambling winnings MUST be claimed on your federal tax return... no problem, right?! But the implications for online casinos are absolutely horrendous! Every single time the casino gives you money, it's considered a "win." Bet $15 on blackjack and push with the dealer? That's a $15 win!! Bet $0.75 on a slot and win $0.15? That's a $0.15 win (not a $0.60 loss). And guess what the IRS doesn't care about? Your wager or other losses. You are required to claim gambling winnings regardless of how much or little you NET at the end. If you bet $1.25 on a slot machine and do 50x auto-spins and BREAK EVEN... congratulations, you just "won" $62.50, which is fully taxable. Yay, you made no actual money, and now you owe taxes on it! It gets worse. Say you take a $2,500 deposit match promotion. Congrats, you've deposited $2,500 and received a $2,500 bonus with a 20x playthrough requirement. Oh wait - that 20x playthrough is on ALL the money, not just the bonus. So you have to wager $5,000 20x. If you play a slot with a 99.6% payback, you should theoretically walk away with about $4,900 total. Your discipline paid off! But guess what... you've just wagered $100,000 to profit that $2,400. Now you have to claim that you have $100,000 in GAMBLING WINNINGS!! Yay. The ONLY saving grace is that you can sacrifice your standard deduction and itemize your filing. IF you do this and IF you can prove every single win and loss, THEN you're allowed to deduct your losses. But you've still screwed yourself because now you've lost your $27,700 standard deduction, and even though you can NET out your winnings, your AGI is still THAT MUCH HIGHER. I've spent about 50 hours preparing tax documents this year because of this. I have spreadsheets with 65,000+ individual transactions. Every win. Every loss. All calculating to a grand total of $1,500 profit and the loss of my standard deduction so I can itemize $63,500 in losses against $65,000 in winnings. It all started in September when I claimed some free bonuses from Caesar's and BetRivers. Then DraftKings offered a great promotion. FanDuel was running a match as well. What's arbitrage betting? I spent a few hundred to find out...and now I'm dealing with this tax nightmare.

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This is exactly why I've been avoiding online casinos despite all the promotional offers I keep getting. The tax implications are just too messy for casual players like me who might want to try a few games with a small deposit. What strikes me most about your situation is how the current system essentially penalizes transparency. The online platforms are actually doing the "right thing" by providing detailed transaction records, but those same records end up creating a tax nightmare because every micro-transaction gets counted separately. I work in financial services and deal with tax reporting regularly, so I have some appreciation for the complexity you're facing. The fact that you need 65,000+ individual transaction records to properly report $1,500 in net winnings shows how completely divorced the tax code is from the reality of how these platforms work. Have you considered reaching out to any tax policy advocacy groups about this? Your detailed documentation of the problem could be valuable for pushing legislative reform. The absurdity of your situation - spending 50+ hours on tax prep to report a small recreational gambling profit - really highlights how broken this system is for ordinary taxpayers. I'm curious if you've calculated what your effective hourly "wage" ended up being after factoring in all the tax preparation time. Probably not very encouraging!

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You're absolutely right about the perverse incentives this creates! The platforms providing detailed records should be helpful for taxpayers, but instead it just makes the tax situation more complicated. I haven't reached out to advocacy groups yet, but that's actually a really good suggestion. With all this documentation, I could probably provide a concrete case study of exactly how broken the system is. The fact that responsible record-keeping creates more tax liability than it prevents is completely backwards. As for the effective hourly wage - I did that calculation and immediately regretted it! Between the 50+ hours of tax prep and the additional taxes owed, I'm essentially paying for the privilege of having gambled legally and transparently. If I factor in the tax preparation time, I probably "earned" about negative $30 per hour for my trouble. What really bothers me is that this discourages exactly the kind of regulated, transparent gambling that policymakers should want to encourage. When the legal, documented approach creates more problems than underground alternatives, something is seriously wrong with the system. Your point about avoiding online casinos entirely is probably the smart financial move, which is crazy given that these are legal, regulated businesses.

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This is absolutely infuriating and perfectly illustrates why so many people avoid legal online gambling entirely. I'm a tax preparer who has seen this exact scenario play out for several clients, and it never gets less ridiculous. What you've described - spending 50+ hours documenting transactions to report $1,500 in actual profit while losing your standard deduction - is unfortunately completely typical. I've had clients who spent more on tax preparation fees than they actually won gambling, which is completely insane. The most maddening part is that this system actively punishes people for gambling legally and transparently. If you had just played poker with friends or bet with an offshore book, you'd have far fewer tax complications. But because you used regulated platforms that properly report transactions, you're stuck with this nightmare. I always warn new clients about this before they start gambling online, but most people don't believe how bad it is until they experience it firsthand. Your detailed breakdown should be required reading for anyone considering claiming those attractive welcome bonuses. The fact that day traders can net gains and losses while recreational gamblers can't shows how arbitrary and unfair this whole system is. We desperately need federal tax reform on gambling taxation, but until then, stories like yours serve as important warnings for other taxpayers.

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QuantumQuasar

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As someone new to this community and completely unfamiliar with online gambling taxes, I'm honestly shocked by what I'm reading here. I had no idea that the tax implications were this severe for what seems like recreational gambling. The fact that you have clients spending more on tax prep than they actually won is mind-blowing. It makes me wonder how many people unknowingly get into these situations with those attractive welcome bonuses, not realizing they're potentially signing up for dozens of hours of tax documentation work. Is there any standard advice you give to clients who are just starting to gamble online? Like a minimum threshold where it might make sense, or warning signs to watch out for? Reading Katherine's original post about losing the standard deduction over $1,500 in actual winnings has me thinking I should probably avoid online casinos entirely, but I'm curious if there are ways to gamble responsibly while minimizing these tax complications. This whole thread has been incredibly educational but also pretty terrifying from a tax perspective!

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Tyrone Hill

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I'm just starting to deal with this exact same situation with my MetLife disability payments from last year! This thread has been an absolute lifesaver - I had no idea where to even begin when I realized I never received any tax forms. The advice about checking old pay stubs first to see how premiums were paid is brilliant. I just went through mine and it looks like my disability premiums were deducted post-tax, which based on what everyone's saying here might mean the benefits aren't fully taxable. That would be such a relief! I'm definitely going to contact MetLife to get an official payment summary (and request it by email like @Harmony Love suggested to speed things up). Even if it turns out the benefits aren't taxable, it sounds like having proper documentation is crucial either way. What strikes me most about this discussion is how common this issue apparently is, yet there's so little clear guidance available elsewhere online. The combination of professional advice and real-world experiences here has been incredibly valuable. It's turned what felt like an impossible tax problem into a clear action plan. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences - you've probably saved a lot of people from unnecessary stress and potential IRS issues down the road!

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QuantumQueen

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@Tyrone Hill I m'so glad this thread has been helpful for you! I m'actually in the very beginning stages of dealing with this same MetLife situation myself, and reading through everyone s'experiences has been incredibly reassuring. Your approach of checking the pay stubs first is exactly what I plan to do too. It s'amazing how that one detail about pre-tax vs post-tax premium payments can completely change the tax implications. I had never heard of that distinction before finding this discussion! The point about requesting documentation by email is such a practical tip - I wouldn t'have thought to specify the delivery method, but saving 1-2 weeks during tax season could make a huge difference in getting everything sorted out on time. What really impresses me about this thread is how everyone has been so willing to share specific details about their experiences. It s'given me confidence that this is a manageable situation rather than some impossible tax mystery. Having a clear roadmap from people who ve'actually been through the process makes all the difference when you re'facing something like this for the first time. Thanks for adding your perspective as someone just starting this journey - it helps to know I m'not alone in working through these steps!

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I'm currently going through this exact same situation with MetLife disability payments from my maternity leave last year, and this thread has been incredibly comprehensive and helpful! Reading through everyone's experiences has given me so much clarity on what initially seemed like an overwhelming tax issue. The key insight about checking pay stubs to determine if premiums were paid pre-tax or post-tax is something I never would have thought of on my own. I just checked mine and it appears my premiums were deducted post-tax, which could potentially make a huge difference in the taxability of the benefits. Based on all the excellent advice here, my action plan is to: 1. Contact MetLife to request an official payment summary via email (to speed up delivery) 2. Gather all my documentation including pay stubs and payment records 3. Determine the correct tax treatment based on how premiums were funded 4. Keep thorough records regardless of the outcome What really stands out to me is how proactive everyone recommends being rather than hoping the IRS doesn't notice unreported income. The stories about people getting notices years later really emphasize the importance of addressing this upfront, even without receiving proper tax forms. This discussion should honestly be required reading for anyone dealing with short-term disability payments! The combination of professional tax advice and real-world experiences has transformed what felt like an impossible situation into a manageable process with clear steps. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences!

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Sofia Perez

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Ugh, I'm in the same boat as everyone else here 😩 Filed my NYS return back in February and it's been stuck on "processing" ever since. This is my first time dealing with such a massive delay - usually get my state refund within 3-4 weeks max. The worst part is not knowing if there's actually an issue with my return or if it's just sitting in some digital pile waiting to be looked at. Really wish NYS would send automated updates or at least be more transparent about what's causing these delays. Might have to bite the bullet and try calling that support line even though 2+ hour wait times sound absolutely brutal 😤

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@Sofia I totally feel your frustration! šŸ˜” I'm also a first-timer dealing with delays this bad - filed mine in late January and same story, just endless "processing." The lack of transparency is what gets me the most too. Like, just tell us if there's a problem or give us a realistic timeline! I've been debating whether to brave that 2+ hour wait time but honestly not sure it's worth it based on what @Miguel said about getting a useless "just keep waiting" response. Maybe we should all try that taxr.ai thing together and compare results? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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Filed mine in March and still waiting too 😩 This thread is making me feel slightly better knowing I'm not alone, but also more worried about how widespread this delay is! The 12-16 weeks timeline @Amara mentioned is honestly terrifying - that puts me at potentially waiting until July or August. I've never had to wait more than 6 weeks for NYS before. Really considering trying that taxr.ai tool since so many people here are mentioning it. Has anyone else had success with it or found any other ways to get actual information about what's happening with their returns?

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@Elijah I'm in the exact same timeline as you - filed in March and the thought of waiting until July/August is honestly making me panic a little 😰 I've been lurking in this thread and seeing everyone mention taxr.ai has me curious too. Like @Giovanni said he found out about a verification hold he didn't even know about - that would be so helpful to know! I'm also wondering if there's a pattern to who's getting delayed vs who isn't. Maybe certain zip codes or income brackets are getting processed faster? This whole situation is just so frustrating when you're counting on that money 😤

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Omar Hassan

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A tip from someone who messed this up last year - if you get PR packages that contain multiple items (like beauty boxes with 10+ products), document the value of each item individually rather than just the total package value. If you end up using some items for business and others personally, you'll need to know the specific values. I started taking photos of everything I receive along with screenshots of retail prices. I keep a spreadsheet with columns for: item description, date received, retail value, business use percentage, and notes about how I used it for content. My tax person said this was perfect documentation.

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Do you need to report gifts from subscribers too? I got sent some fan art and small gifts from viewers. Nothing expensive but still wondering if that counts as income too?

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Fan gifts from subscribers are generally considered true gifts since there's no expectation of reciprocal business value - they're not sending you things expecting you to feature them or create content in return. These typically wouldn't be taxable income unless they're extremely valuable (think over $15,000 from one person in a year, which would trigger gift tax rules). However, if you regularly receive items from viewers and then feature them in videos or thank them publicly as part of your content strategy, that could potentially change the nature of the transaction. The key test is whether there's an implied business relationship or expectation of promotion. When in doubt, it's worth asking a tax professional about your specific situation, especially if you're receiving valuable items regularly.

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NebulaNinja

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Great question! As someone who's been dealing with this exact situation, I can confirm what others have said - you're absolutely right that these "gifts" need to be reported as income at fair market value. One thing I'd add is to be really careful about timing. You report the income in the tax year you RECEIVED the items, not when you used them in content. So if you got that camera stabilizer in December 2024 but didn't feature it in a video until January 2025, it's still 2024 income. Also, keep detailed records of any communication with the companies. Save those emails or DMs where they ask you to feature their products - this documentation helps prove the business relationship and justifies both the income reporting and expense deduction. For your clothing example, the IRS can be picky about clothing deductions. Generally, clothes need to be unsuitable for everyday wear to qualify as a business expense. So if it's regular clothing you could wear outside of videos, you might not be able to deduct it even if you featured it in content. But specialty items like costumes or branded merchandise would likely qualify. The good news is that as a content creator, you have legitimate business expenses that can offset this additional income - equipment, software, props, etc. Just make sure everything is properly documented!

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This is really helpful, especially the timing point about reporting income when received vs when used! I'm curious though - what if a company sends you something unsolicited that you never asked for and don't plan to feature? Like if they just found your channel and sent something hoping you'd review it, but you decide not to make content about it. Do you still need to report that as income even though there was no explicit agreement?

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