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Is paying $89 for 1099-NEC deductions on TurboTax worth it for a small catering gig?

My husband and I are doing our taxes, and I'm stuck on something. I did some side catering work this year and earned around $1850 for it. Got a 1099-NEC form and everything. Now when we're putting this into TurboTax, it's saying we need to pay an extra $89 to unlock the self-employment section so I can add business deductions. Without deductions, adding this income is reducing our refund by like $650! I know I could deduct some stuff (used my car, bought some supplies, etc.), but is it even worth paying the $89 upgrade fee for such a small amount of income? Or should we just take the hit and report the income without any deductions? Would love to hear what others think is the smart move here!

Another option is to use FreeTaxUSA instead of TurboTax. Federal filing with Schedule C (self-employment) is completely free. You only pay like $15 if you want state filing. I switched from TurboTax last year and haven't looked back. They handle all the same deductions without the ridiculous upgrade fees.

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Does FreeTaxUSA handle all the same forms? I have some investment stuff and a rental property too.

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Yes, FreeTaxUSA handles all the same forms as TurboTax including investment income and rental properties. I have both and had no issues. The interface isn't quite as polished but it does the exact same calculations. The only real difference I noticed is it doesn't import some forms automatically like TurboTax does, so you might need to enter some information manually. But considering the price difference, it's absolutely worth the few extra minutes of typing.

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Word of caution from someone who's been audited - if you're gonna claim deductions on a 1099, KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS!! The IRS loves to target small self-employment deductions because people often don't document them properly. For real, take pics of every receipt, track your mileage with an app, and keep a simple spreadsheet. For a catering gig, you can deduct ingredients, equipment, transportation, portion of your phone bill, etc. But without documentation it's not worth the risk.

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What apps do you recommend for tracking mileage? I always forget to log my trips.

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Is there any chance the married SALT tax deduction will increase for 2023?

I just came across some info about a bill that might retroactively increase the SALT deduction limit for married couples filing jointly to $20,000 for the 2023 tax year only. Right now we're capped at $10k and it's killing us in our high tax state. Haven't seen much talk about this anywhere - has anyone heard if this actually has a shot at passing? We're getting ready to file and wondering if we should wait a bit to see what happens with this. Our property taxes alone are over $12k plus state income tax so we're losing out on a ton of deductions under the current limit. Thanks for any insights!

Has anyone actually reached out to their representatives about this? I called my congressman's office yesterday about the SALT marriage penalty and they said they've been getting a ton of calls about it. Maybe if enough of us make noise they'll actually do something?

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I emailed both my senators last week! One office actually responded saying the senator co-sponsored the bill to raise the married SALT cap to $20k. The more people who contact their reps, the better chance we have.

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Anyone else think it's weird they're only proposing this for 2023? Like why not make it permanent? Seems like they're just throwing us a bone without actually fixing the problem long-term. Classic Congress!

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My guess is budget impact - making it permanent would show a much bigger revenue loss on the CBO score. By making it one year only, they can claim it's a smaller budget hit. Plus the whole TCJA expires after 2025 anyway, so they can just say "we'll fix it permanently when we do comprehensive tax reform"... which of course never happens lol.

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Converting Short Term Rental to Vacation Home: Form 4797 and 8949 for Sale Reporting

I bought a lakefront cabin back in 2007 that I used as a short-term rental property until about 2013, when I decided to stop renting it out and just use it as our family vacation home. Now I'm selling the property this year and trying to figure out the tax implications. I've got roughly $65,000 in depreciation expenses that I need to recapture and about $30,000 in unallowed passive activity losses that I want to realize this year when the sale happens. My question is about which tax forms I need to use. Do I need to use Form 4797 for the business portion and Form 8949 for the personal use portion? Or is there a different approach since it was converted from rental to personal use years ago? I'm really confused about how to handle the depreciation recapture and those passive losses from the rental period. I've been reading conflicting advice online about whether this gets treated as a mixed-use property or if there's some kind of formula based on the years of different usage.

Something nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you have good records of the fair market value of the property at the time you converted it from rental to personal use! This becomes your starting point for calculating the personal-use portion of the gain. I made the mistake of not getting an appraisal when I converted my rental to personal use, and it was a nightmare trying to establish value years later when I sold. If you don't have documentation of the property's value at conversion, the IRS might challenge your allocation between business and personal use.

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Oh that's a really good point I hadn't considered. I don't think I have any official appraisal from when I converted it in 2013. Would old real estate listings of comparable properties from that time period work as evidence? Or tax assessments from the county?

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Tax assessments can help, but they're often below market value. Comparable property listings from that time period would be better evidence. You could also check with local real estate agents who might have historical sales data for similar properties in your area from that time. Another approach is to work backward from current appraisals and adjust for average appreciation in your area. Some tax professionals can help you create a reasonable valuation model if you have current data and local real estate growth statistics. The key is building a reasonable case for the value if you're ever questioned. Document everything and keep all supporting evidence with your tax records.

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Don't forget about state tax implications too! I sold a converted rental property last year and was so focused on the federal tax forms that I completely missed some state-specific requirements.

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That's a great point. In my state, they actually have different rules for how the depreciation recapture is taxed compared to the federal level. I ended up having to amend my state return because I initially just carried over the federal calculations.

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Getting a tax refund for food delivery gig work?

I totally forgot to file taxes last year for my side gig doing food delivery because I honestly didn't think I needed to (my bad!). I did file for my regular W-2 job though. Now I'm trying to get my daughter enrolled in a preschool program and apply for state childcare assistance. One of their requirements is a copy of my 2022 tax return that includes my food delivery income. So I contacted the delivery company and got my 1099 from 2022, then went on TurboTax and filed an amended return adding the 1099 and all my food delivery earnings from last year. Here's what's weird - TurboTax is showing I'll actually get a refund! I was 100% expecting to owe money since I didn't pay any taxes on that delivery income throughout the year. Is this normal? Did I mess something up in TurboTax or is it actually possible to get money back? I'm honestly super stressed because I only have 30 days to submit all this paperwork to the childcare assistance program.

Check if you qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit, especially since you mentioned having a child. For 2022, you could qualify for a significant credit depending on your income level. That alone could result in a refund even after adding 1099 income. Also make sure you're tracking ALL your expenses - cell phone (% used for delivery app), hot bags, car chargers, etc. Every little bit helps reduce your taxable income from the delivery work.

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I think my income might be too high for EIC since I made about $43k at my regular job plus around $12k from deliveries. But TurboTax did guide me through a bunch of expense questions like my phone, insulated bags, and even a portion of my car insurance. I hadn't thought about tracking those things during the year but was able to go back and estimate pretty closely.

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Your combined income of $55k might still qualify you for some EIC depending on your filing status. For 2022, the income limit for a single parent with one child was around $43k, but for married filing jointly it was higher. Even if you don't qualify for EIC, those business expense deductions you entered likely made a huge difference! Remember that your taxable income from the delivery work is your gross earnings minus all those business expenses. So if you made $12k but had $5k in legitimate business expenses (including that substantial mileage deduction), you're only paying taxes on $7k of additional income. If you had excess withholding from your W-2 job, that could easily result in a refund.

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Make sure youre setting aside money for next years taxes if your still doing food delivery!! I got a huge surprise tax bill my second year cause I didn't realize the refund was a one time thing based on my w2 withholding covering it. Now I put 25% of all delivery money in a separate account so no surprises.

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This is really important! I made the same mistake. Got a refund my first year doing DoorDash because my W-2 job withholding covered everything. Next year I had a $3200 tax bill that completely blindsided me. I use the IRS estimated tax payment system now (Form 1040-ES) and make quarterly payments so I don't get hit with penalties or a huge bill at tax time.

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Why am I owing taxes when I claim 0 on my W4 form?

I've been claiming 0 allowances on my W4 for years with maximum taxes taken out. Everything on my form is correct - single status, all the information matches, etc. I'm completely confused why I'm owing money this year? This has literally never happened before and I've always filed my own taxes without issues. Did my employer screw something up with my withholdings? Also, I'm totally lost about why the tax calculators are showing a lower refund when I put in that I received the $1400 stimulus payment. I thought that money wasn't supposed to affect my taxes at all when filing this year. Anyone else dealing with this or know what's going on? I was expecting a refund like usual and now I'm stressed about coming up with extra money.

This whole "claiming 0" misconception is super common. I work in payroll and see this confusion constantly. The W-4 redesign in 2020 completely eliminated allowances. Here's what's likely happening: 1. Your overall tax liability might be higher this year (investment income, side hustles, etc.) 2. The withholding tables were adjusted, so even with the same W-4 settings, you might have less withheld 3. If you receive bonuses or variable pay, those might be underwitheld 4. Your employer might have made an error As for the stimulus, the calculators show a different amount when you mark it as received because they're removing the Recovery Rebate Credit they initially calculated. It's working correctly, just confusing in the interface.

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Thanks for this explanation! I definitely have an outdated understanding of how withholding works now. I don't have any side income, but I did receive a small bonus this year that was probably underwitheld like you mentioned. So to fix this for next year, should I just submit a new W4 with some additional withholding amount in section 4(c)? How do I figure out how much extra to withhold?

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Yes, submitting a new W4 with an additional amount in section 4(c) is exactly what you should do. To calculate the amount, take the tax you owed this year, divide by the number of pay periods remaining in the year, and enter that amount. For example, if you owed $1200 and get paid twice a month, you'd enter $50 per paycheck ($1200 รท 24). For a more precise calculation, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website. It'll walk you through your specific situation and recommend the exact amount to put in section 4(c). Just make sure you have your most recent paystub and tax return handy when you use it.

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Has anyone else noticed that employers seem really confused about the new W4 system too? My HR department gave me completely wrong information when I asked about how to increase my withholding.

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YES! My company's HR actually sent out an email telling everyone to "update your allowances to 0 or 1" last month. I had to awkwardly explain to them that allowances haven't been a thing since 2019. They seemed genuinely surprised.

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