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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider whether using a low-interest loan to pay the IRS might be better than an installment plan. I had a $22k tax bill last year, and I ended up taking a personal loan at 8% to pay it off because the combined penalties and interest from the IRS were going to be higher. Credit unions sometimes offer good rates, and if you have good credit, it might be worth exploring. Also, if you have a 401k, you might be able to take a loan from that (though be careful with this option).
Wouldn't using a credit card work too? Especially if you can get one of those 0% intro offers? My tax bill is much smaller than OP's but I was thinking of going this route.
Credit cards can work for smaller amounts, but there are a few things to consider. First, most credit cards charge a processing fee (usually around 2-3%) when paying taxes. Second, those 0% intro offers typically only last 12-18 months, and $48,000 would be hard to pay off in that timeframe. If you can't pay it off before the promotional period ends, you'll get hit with much higher interest rates than what the IRS charges. For smaller tax bills, credit cards with promotional rates can definitely make sense if you have a solid plan to pay it off before the promotional period ends. Just make sure to calculate the processing fee into your total cost comparison.
Anyone know if the irs will settle for less than what u owe? I heard something about that but not sure how it works... in a similar boat with about 35k owed
You're thinking of an Offer in Compromise (OIC), which allows you to settle your tax debt for less than the full amount. However, it's not as easy as people think. The IRS only accepts an OIC if they genuinely believe they can't collect the full amount from you, either now or in the future. They'll look at your income, expenses, asset equity, and ability to pay. Most OICs get rejected because people have the means to pay through an installment agreement. If you have assets you could sell or a decent income, it's unlikely to be approved.
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're not confusing an HSA with an FSA! They sound similar but are totally different for tax purposes. HSA (Health Savings Account): - Stays with you forever, even if you change jobs - Contributions from both you and employer are tax-advantaged - Unused money rolls over year to year - Need a qualifying high-deductible health plan to contribute FSA (Flexible Spending Account): - Usually use-it-or-lose-it each year - Only available through employers - Different contribution limits - Different tax reporting requirements I've seen people try to deduct FSA contributions like they were HSA contributions and that can trigger big problems with the IRS!
This is such an important distinction! I messed this up one year and it was a nightmare to fix. Quick question - if you have access to both an HSA and FSA (limited purpose FSA), can you contribute to both in the same year? My benefits coordinator gave me conflicting info.
Yes, you can contribute to both an HSA and a Limited Purpose FSA in the same year. The key is that it must be a "Limited Purpose" FSA that only covers dental and vision expenses, not a regular medical FSA that covers all healthcare expenses. Regular medical FSAs would make you ineligible for HSA contributions, but the Limited Purpose FSAs are specifically designed to work alongside HSAs. This combination actually gives you the most tax advantages, as you can use the Limited Purpose FSA for immediate dental/vision needs while letting your HSA investments grow for future medical expenses.
For anyone still confused about HSA deductions, here's the simple version that helped me understand: 1) EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS: Already tax-free, shown on W-2 Box 12 with code W 2) YOUR PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS: Already tax-free, also reflected on your W-2 3) YOUR PERSONAL CONTRIBUTIONS (from your bank account): These are the ones you claim as a deduction HSA Limits for 2023: - $3,850 for individual coverage - $7,750 for family coverage - Extra $1,000 allowed if you're 55+ TurboTax sometimes makes this more complicated than it needs to be!
The limits for 2024 are higher just fyi: - $4,150 for individual coverage - $8,300 for family coverage Plus still the +$1,000 for 55+ folks
Something nobody's mentioned yet - you also need to consider self-employment tax. If you don't deduct your business expenses, you'll pay more in SE tax (15.3% on the first $160,200 for 2023). By accurately reporting your $4,000 in expenses, you'd save about $612 in SE tax ($4,000 Ć 15.3%). That's money you could then invest elsewhere or use to cover business costs. Not claiming legitimate business expenses is essentially overpaying your taxes.
That's an excellent point I hadn't considered. So even if I'm able to zero out my income tax through 401k contributions, I'd still be paying unnecessary SE tax if I don't claim my business expenses. Could you explain a bit more about how the SE tax calculation works with Solo 401k contributions?
Exactly! Solo 401k contributions don't reduce your self-employment tax liability - only your regular income tax. SE tax is calculated on your net earnings from self-employment (Schedule C profit) before any retirement plan contributions. So if you have $19,500 in income and don't deduct that $4,000 in expenses, you'd pay SE tax on the full $19,500. But if you properly deduct the $4,000, you'd only pay SE tax on $15,500. At the 15.3% SE tax rate, that's a savings of about $612. That's real money you'd be leaving on the table by not claiming legitimate expenses!
I actually messed this up a few years ago thinking I could choose which expenses to report. My accountant later told me the Schedule C should reflect the true economic reality of your business - you don't get to pick and choose which expenses to report based on what gives you the best tax outcome.
Another option is to use FreeTaxUSA instead of TurboTax. Federal filing with Schedule C (self-employment) is completely free. You only pay like $15 if you want state filing. I switched from TurboTax last year and haven't looked back. They handle all the same deductions without the ridiculous upgrade fees.
Yes, FreeTaxUSA handles all the same forms as TurboTax including investment income and rental properties. I have both and had no issues. The interface isn't quite as polished but it does the exact same calculations. The only real difference I noticed is it doesn't import some forms automatically like TurboTax does, so you might need to enter some information manually. But considering the price difference, it's absolutely worth the few extra minutes of typing.
Word of caution from someone who's been audited - if you're gonna claim deductions on a 1099, KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS!! The IRS loves to target small self-employment deductions because people often don't document them properly. For real, take pics of every receipt, track your mileage with an app, and keep a simple spreadsheet. For a catering gig, you can deduct ingredients, equipment, transportation, portion of your phone bill, etc. But without documentation it's not worth the risk.
What apps do you recommend for tracking mileage? I always forget to log my trips.
Oliver Zimmermann
Don't forget about qualified charitable donations if you're over 70.5! My father dropped his AGI significantly by having his RMDs sent directly to charities. Doesn't show up on line 11 at all.
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Connor O'Neill
ā¢Does that QCD strategy help if you're not taking RMDs yet? I'm only 42 but I do donate about $3,000 a year to my church.
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Oliver Zimmermann
ā¢Unfortunately, the QCD strategy only works if you're at least 70.5 years old and are withdrawing from IRAs. At 42, your charitable donations would be itemized deductions rather than AGI reducers, and they go on Schedule A rather than directly reducing line 11. However, there is a strategy that might work for you - if you have a small business or freelance income, you might be able to structure some of your charitable giving as business sponsorships, which could be business expenses that reduce your AGI. This only works if there's a legitimate business purpose though, like advertising or promotion for your business.
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CosmicCommander
Has anyone looked into health insurance premium deductions if you're self-employed? That directly reduces AGI and is pretty substantial.
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Natasha Volkova
ā¢Yes! I did this last year. If you're self-employed and not eligible for coverage through an employer (yours or spouse's), you can deduct 100% of your premiums. For me that was about $14,000 for my family plan! It's an adjustment to income on Schedule 1, so it directly reduces AGI.
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