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14 Just wanted to share our experience - my husband and I tried filing separately last year with our 3 kids and it was a HUGE mistake. We thought we'd save money but ended up paying about $3,800 MORE in taxes than if we'd filed jointly because we lost so many credits. Don't make our mistake!
4 Can you share which specific credits you lost? We have a similar situation with 3 kids and I'm trying to figure out what to do.
14 We lost access to several valuable credits that really added up. The Child and Dependent Care Credit was completely unavailable to us when filing separately - that alone cost us over $1,200. The Earned Income Credit was another big one we couldn't claim at all. The Child Tax Credit wasn't eliminated but the income thresholds for phaseout were much lower when filing separately, so we lost about half of what we would have qualified for filing jointly. We also couldn't take education credits for our oldest who started college classes, and the student loan interest deduction was unavailable too. The tax brackets themselves are also less favorable for separate filers in most income ranges.
19 Has anyone used TurboTax to compare the difference between filing jointly and separately with multiple kids? Their "what-if" scenario tool supposedly lets you see both options side by side.
Just want to add something important - if you do need to amend because of this Intuit W2 Box 13 error, make sure you use Form 8606 correctly if you had non-deductible IRA contributions. I initially filed with fully deductible IRA contributions, but with the retirement plan box now checked, I could only partially deduct them based on my income. The rest needed to be reported as non-deductible on Form 8606. This is important for your future distributions so you don't get taxed twice on those contributions. This mistake by Intuit is causing so many headaches for people. I wonder if they're going to compensate anyone for the extra tax preparation costs.
Do you know if TurboTax handles this correctly if you need to amend? I used them for my original filing and now need to amend because of this Box 13 issue.
TurboTax does handle this correctly in an amended return, but you need to make sure you enter everything properly. When you start the amendment process, it will ask what's changing. Make sure you select that you're changing information related to IRA contributions. Then when you get to the W2 section, update the box 13 information to show "Retirement plan" is checked. The software should recalculate your IRA deduction and automatically generate Form 8606 for any non-deductible portion. Double-check all the numbers before filing to make sure it caught everything correctly.
Has anybody gotten clarification on whether intuit is paying for the cost of amendments? I had to hire a tax professional to fix my return because of this and it cost me $225 that I definitely wasn't planning to spend. Seems like they should be responsible for their mistake.
One thing to be careful about - while the distribution itself is just a transfer, you need to be mindful of your basis in the S corp. If you take distributions that exceed your basis, the excess can be taxed as capital gains. This is a common mistake that can cause issues at tax time. Your basis increases with capital contributions and your share of income, and decreases with distributions and your share of losses. It's worth tracking this carefully throughout the year rather than trying to figure it out all at tax time.
Thanks for bringing this up! I hadn't considered the basis issue. Do you recommend any specific tracking method for keeping tabs on this throughout the year? Is this something I should be having my bookkeeper monitor?
Your bookkeeper should definitely be tracking this if they're familiar with S corporations. The simplest method is to maintain a basis worksheet or schedule that gets updated with each capital contribution, income/loss allocation, and distribution. QuickBooks and other accounting software don't automatically track S corp basis, so you'll need a separate spreadsheet or basis tracking tool. Some tax preparation software includes basis worksheets that you can update throughout the year. The key is documenting everything contemporaneously rather than trying to reconstruct it at year-end.
Does anyone know if there are any specific times during the year when it's better to take distributions? Like, should I avoid taking them right before filing taxes or anything like that? First year S-corp owner here too.
There's no rules about timing for tax purposes since the income is passed through to you regardless of when distributions happen. But practically speaking, many accountants recommend keeping distributions somewhat proportional to your salary throughout the year rather than taking one massive distribution and small salary. Looks less suspicious if you get audited.
I've attached a basic BOI engagement letter outline that we use if anyone wants a starting point. Key elements: ⢠Scope (initial filing vs. ongoing updates) ⢠Client responsibilities (providing accurate beneficial owner info) ⢠Your role as company applicant ⢠Fees for initial filing and separate fees for amendments/updates ⢠Timeline requirements ⢠Liability limitations ⢠Documentation retention policy I recommend getting your legal counsel to review whatever you develop. The penalties for non-compliance are significant and you don't want to expose yourself unnecessarily.
I don't see any attachment? Could you repost or share how you're handling the documentation retention section specifically? We're debating whether we need to keep the verification documents (IDs, etc.) or just the information.
Sorry about that! Can't believe I forgot to attach it. For document retention, we specify that we keep the FinCEN filing confirmation and basic ownership information for 7 years per our normal tax record retention policy. We explicitly state that we do NOT retain copies of government IDs, birth certificates or other verification documents provided by beneficial owners. We view these documents only to verify the information being filed and then either return or destroy them. This reduces our liability for storing sensitive personal documents while still fulfilling our professional obligations.
Has anyone addressed the issue of fees in their engagement letter? We're trying to determine if we should charge a flat fee per entity or bill hourly for BOI reporting. For complex entities with many beneficial owners, the time difference can be substantial.
We've found a tiered flat fee structure works best. Basic fee for entities with 1-3 beneficial owners, then an additional fee per owner beyond that. We also charge separately for amendments and updates. This has been easier to explain to clients than hourly billing, and honestly more profitable since we've gotten efficient at the filings.
Morgan Washington
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Kaylee Cook
ā¢Can FreeTaxUSA handle rental property income? I have a duplex I rent out and TurboTax charges me for their premium version just for that one thing. Getting tired of paying $120+ every year.
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Morgan Washington
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Oliver Alexander
whatever you do DONT use jackson hewitt!! they charged me $320 last year for a basic return and missed a tax credit I qualified for. when I went back to ask about it they said I'd have to pay another $100 for them to look at it again. complete ripoff. I used a local CPA this year, paid $250 total and got way better service plus he found way more deductions. check local google reviews and find someone with good ratings in your area.
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Lara Woods
ā¢Ugh that's awful! I had a similar experience with Liberty Tax a few years ago. Those big chains just hire seasonal people with minimal training and push them to get through as many returns as possible.
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Adrian Hughes
ā¢How did you find your CPA? Did you just Google or did you get a personal recommendation? I'm nervous about just picking a random person to handle my financial info.
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