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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if this is your first year being self-employed, the IRS has a "safe harbor" provision that might help you. If you pay 100% of your previous year's tax liability (through withholding or estimated payments), you generally won't face an underpayment penalty even if you end up owing more. So if your W2 job last year had enough taxes withheld to cover your entire tax bill last year, you might actually be in better shape than you think regarding penalties.

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That's really interesting! I didn't know about this safe harbor thing. My previous W2 job did withhold taxes, but I only worked there for part of this year before switching to 1099. Does that change how the safe harbor works?

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The safe harbor is based on your total tax liability from last year's return, not just what you paid at your W2 job this year before switching. So if your 2024 tax return (filed in early 2025) showed a total tax liability of, say, $15,000, then you'd need to have paid at least $15,000 in estimated taxes during 2025 to qualify for safe harbor protection. If your income is substantially higher now as a 1099 contractor, you'll still owe the difference when you file, but you'd avoid the underpayment penalties. However, if you expect to make more than $150,000 this year, the safe harbor requirement increases to 110% of last year's tax liability.

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Just a heads up since you're new to self-employment - don't forget you can deduct legitimate business expenses to lower your taxable income! Home office (if you have dedicated space), supplies, mileage for business travel, professional licenses, continuing education, health insurance premiums, etc. This can significantly reduce what you owe. Write down EVERYTHING and keep all receipts. I use a simple spreadsheet + a folder in Google Drive with photos of all receipts. My tax person loves me for being organized lol.

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Quick tip to add to this: get a separate credit card just for business expenses. Makes tracking SO much easier at tax time. I was a mess my first year self-employed and it cost me money because I couldn't properly document all my deductions.

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Have you thought about just selling everything in bulk on Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist? That's what I did when I closed my online bookstore. I sold about $7,000 worth of inventory (original cost) for about $1,800. The nice thing was that since I had already expensed it all under cash accounting, that $1,800 was actually pure profit from a tax perspective - though obviously a loss from a business perspective. At least I got something back!

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Alfredo Lugo

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That's actually not a bad idea. Did you have to do anything special on your taxes when reporting that $1,800? Just list it as business income on the Schedule C?

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Yes, I just reported it as regular business income on my Schedule C for that final year. Nothing special required - just normal income reporting. My accountant did recommend I keep good documentation of the bulk sale with photos of the inventory and the sale listing/agreement, just in case there were any questions later about the business winding down. But the actual tax reporting was straightforward.

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Tasia Synder

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Another option nobody's mentioned yet - what about donating to a local school or community program? I donated my leftover craft supplies to an after-school program when I shut down my Etsy shop. While I didn't get a tax write-off (already expensed under cash accounting), it felt good knowing the items went to good use instead of the landfill. Some organizations will even pick up from you if the quantity is substantial.

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This is what I did too! Local theater group was thrilled to get my leftover fabric inventory. No tax benefit but serious karma points lol.

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Alfredo Lugo

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I like this idea a lot. Even if there's no tax benefit, at least the items would go to good use. Do you know if schools typically provide any kind of receipt for these donations?

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Oliver Cheng

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Something nobody mentioned yet - look into "demonstration projects" for contractors. My brother-in-law is a bathroom remodeler and he has a specific business policy where he does one showcase project per year at a deep discount (sometimes even at cost) specifically for marketing purposes. He documents everything, has clients sign releases acknowledging the marketing purpose, and his accountant handles it differently than regular personal expenses. Might be worth asking a tax professional about this specific approach since it's common in the trades.

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Ellie Kim

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This is really interesting! Do you know if he does these showcase projects in his own home or just for select customers? And does he still write off the full cost or just a portion?

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Oliver Cheng

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He typically does these for customers, not in his own home. The key is that there's a clear business purpose that's documented - he has customers sign a marketing release allowing him to photograph, film and show the project to potential clients. He even hosts small open houses where prospective clients can see the finished work. His accountant categorizes these as marketing expenses, but only the portion that's discounted. So if a $10,000 job is done for $6,000, he can write off $4,000 as a marketing expense. He's very careful to document everything and has a written business policy about these showcase projects. I still think your own home would be much trickier to justify, but talking to a tax pro about a formal "demonstration project" policy might be worth exploring.

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Taylor To

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Don't forget about Section 179 deduction for tools and equipment! When I started my woodworking business I was able to deduct almost $18k in equipment purchases my first year instead of depreciating them slowly. Table saw, planer, drum sander, dust collection system - all business assets. Also track EVERY mile you drive for business purposes with an app like MileIQ. Picking up materials, driving to client sites, etc. The mileage deduction adds up crazy fast.

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Ella Cofer

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The mileage tracking is so crucial. I neglected this my first year and probably lost thousands in deductions. Do you know what the rate per mile is for 2025? And does MileIQ work automatically or do you have to remember to turn it on?

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Ravi Gupta

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Just want to add something important that nobody's mentioned yet. If you paid FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) on that bonus, handling the repayment gets even trickier. For income taxes, you can use the claim of right provision as others have mentioned. But for FICA taxes, you can only get those back if the repayment happens in the same calendar year as the payment. If it crosses calendar years, you generally can't recover the FICA taxes that were withheld (around 7.65% of the bonus). This is actually why many employers will accept the net amount rather than the gross - they understand this tax complexity. So definitely push back if they're asking for the full amount, especially if you're repaying in a different tax year than when you received it.

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Amina Sow

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Thanks for pointing this out. So in my case, since I received the bonus in April this year and I'm repaying it next month (still in 2024), does that mean I should be able to recover all taxes including FICA? Also, what exactly should I say to HR to convince them to just take the net amount? They keep insisting on the full pre-tax amount.

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Ravi Gupta

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Yes, if both the payment and repayment are happening in 2024, you're in the best possible situation. Your employer should be able to adjust everything (including FICA taxes) on your W-2, and it should be like you never received the bonus in the first place. For convincing HR, try this approach: "I understand the repayment requirement, but I'd like to discuss repaying the net amount I actually received rather than the gross amount. Since both the payment and repayment are occurring in the same tax year, accepting the net amount would be simpler for both parties and is consistent with IRS regulations regarding wage repayments. This approach would prevent me from having to pay back money I never actually received, while still satisfying the terms of the bonus agreement." If they still insist on the gross amount, ask them to provide written documentation of how the tax adjustment will be handled, since they'll need to correct your W-2 or provide documentation for you to claim the taxes paid when you file your return.

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One thing to consider - check your original offer letter or bonus agreement carefully. Sometimes there's specific language about repayment requirements. Some agreements specify net amount, others specify gross. If your agreement doesn't specifically say "gross amount" or "pre-tax amount" when talking about repayment, you have a stronger case to argue for repaying only what you received. Regardless of what the agreement says, keep detailed records of: 1. Original bonus payment (paystub showing gross and net) 2. Repayment amount and date 3. All communication with the employer about this issue These records will be crucial for your tax filing. Even if you end up repaying the gross amount, having solid documentation will make it much easier to claim back the tax portion when you file.

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Omar Hassan

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Did anyone have luck getting their company to accept just the net amount? I'm in the same boat - bonus paid in January, leaving in December, and they want the full pre-tax amount back. Seems really unfair.

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What tax software are you using? I ran into this exact situation last year with TurboTax and was able to file both returns at the same time but schedule my federal payment for later. Got my state refund about 12 days later and used it to pay federal.

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Gavin King

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Does this work with H&R Block online too? Trying to do the same thing.

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Nathan Kim

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Just a heads up - while this strategy works, remember that if your state refund gets delayed for any reason (audits, verification, etc.), you'll still be on the hook for paying federal taxes by the deadline. Might be good to have a backup plan just in case. And definitely e-file both returns for fastest processing!

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