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Confused with different total tax amounts when comparing tax software calculations

I'm not super familiar with taxes but I thought it should be pretty straightforward for me since I'm just a single W2 employee. For the 2023 tax year, my Box 1 wages were $121,254. My interest income on my 1099-INT was $2,986. I used TurboTax and my total tax was calculated at $17,968. Since $17,199 was already withheld, I had to pay an extra $769. After that experience, I started having an additional $130 taken out for federal taxes each paycheck to avoid owing next time. Fast forward to this year (2024 tax filing), my Box 1 wages were $125,164, with $20,396 withheld for federal taxes in Box 2. My interest income on my 1099-INT was $2,427. I decided to try H&R Block since they had a sale going on. Their software calculated my total tax as $20,869 and said I still owed $473. This seemed off, so I went to the IRS website to estimate my taxes. According to their calculator, my AGI is $97,247 and I qualify for free filing. My total income is $127,591 and my taxable income is $110,239. The IRS calculated my total tax as $18,382. Since I already had $20,396 withheld, it showed I should get a refund of $2,014. Now I'm completely confused because we're talking about almost a $2,500 difference between H&R Block and the IRS calculator! My gut feeling is that the IRS calculator is correct and H&R Block made an error, since I earned slightly more this year so my taxes should be a bit higher than last year. That's what I was expecting. Would anyone experienced mind looking at these numbers to confirm? I can share all the details from my W2 if needed. Thanks!

Amina Bah

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One thing to check is if you're itemizing deductions in one calculation but taking the standard deduction in another. With numbers like yours, you're probably right on the borderline where either approach might make sense depending on your specific situation. Also check if both calculators are handling your state taxes the same way. Sometimes the federal calculation gets thrown off by different assumptions about state tax deductibility.

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CyberSiren

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That's a good point I hadn't considered! I'm pretty sure I'm taking the standard deduction in both cases since my mortgage interest and charitable donations probably don't add up to enough to itemize, but I should double check. As for state taxes, I'm in Texas so we don't have state income tax, which makes things a bit simpler. Do you think that could still be affecting the calculation somehow?

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Amina Bah

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If you're in Texas with no state income tax, then that eliminates one possible source of discrepancy. That's actually helpful for narrowing down the issue. Even if you're taking the standard deduction, check if both systems are using the correct amount for your filing status. The standard deduction for single filers is $13,850 for 2023 tax year. If H&R Block somehow miscategorized your filing status, that could explain part of the difference. Another area to check is qualified retirement contributions. Sometimes tax software requires you to manually enter 401(k) contributions even if they're shown on your W2. If H&R Block missed those, it would calculate a higher taxable income than the IRS calculator.

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This happened to me too!! I ended up downloading my return as a PDF from both H&R Block and TurboTax, then going through them line by line to find the differences. It took forever but I finally found that one software was interpreting my retirement contributions differently. One suggestion is to check if there's anything unusual about your W2 - any code in Box 12 that might be interpreted differently by different software?

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This is solid advice! Line-by-line comparison is tedious but effective. I work in payroll and Box 12 codes cause the most confusion with tax software. Codes D, E, F, G, H and S all relate to different types of retirement contributions and sometimes software doesn't categorize them correctly.

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Andre Moreau

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Maybe check if anything else changed? A few things that caused me to suddenly owe: - Started making too much for certain credits - Had some stock dividends or interest that wasn't taxed - Decrease in mortgage interest (if you're itemizing) - Accidentally checked "exempt" somewhere on your W-4 - Employer messed up your withholding Compare this year's W-2 Box 2 (fed tax withheld) with last year's as a percentage of your income. Bet it's lower.

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Luca Bianchi

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Thanks for the suggestions! I checked and my withholding percentage definitely dropped. Looking at box 2 of my W-2, last year they withheld about 18% of my total income but this year it's only 15%. That seems to be where the problem is. The bonus was about $8500 so that explains a good chunk of the difference.

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Andre Moreau

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Yeah that withholding percentage drop is definitely your answer. For the bonus specifically - they typically withhold a flat 22% from bonuses (called supplemental wages), but if you're in a higher bracket overall, that's not enough. If you expect similar bonuses in the future, you can add an extra withholding amount on line 4(c) of your W-4. Calculate roughly how much more you'd need based on your actual tax rate minus the 22% they'll withhold automatically.

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Pro tip from someone who has deal with this exact thing for years: if you know you're getting a bonus, you can temporarily change your W-4 for just that pay period to withhold extra, then change it back for your regular paychecks. That's what I do every December when bonus time comes around.

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Does your company let you do this? Mine requires submitting W-4 changes like 3 weeks in advance so it's hard to time it exactly with the bonus paycheck.

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Yeah my company lets us make W-4 changes through our online portal and they take effect in the next pay cycle. I just mark myself as "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" and add 0 dependents instead of my usual 2 for the bonus check. I've also started just having an additional $50 withheld from each regular paycheck throughout the year (line 4c on the W-4) which builds a little cushion. I'd rather get a small refund than owe.

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If your roommate is struggling financially, there are better options than risking tax fraud. Have him look into: 1) Earned Income Tax Credit - even if he doesn't owe taxes, he might qualify for this refundable credit 2) Child Tax Credit - worth up to $2,000 per qualifying child 3) Child and Dependent Care Credit - if he pays for childcare while working He should file his taxes claiming his daughter so he gets these benefits. The IRS takes false dependent claims very seriously.

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Thank you for the suggestion! I definitely don't want to do anything illegal. Would these credits help even if he doesn't make much money? He works part time and gets some cash jobs on the side (probably doesn't report all of that income).

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Yes, these credits can definitely help people with lower incomes! The Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) is specifically designed for lower-income workers and is refundable, meaning he could get money back even if he owes no tax. Regarding the unreported cash income - that's a separate issue, but he should know that claiming tax credits while not reporting all income could create problems if he's audited. The safest path is to report all income and claim the credits he's legally entitled to.

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Andre Dupont

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What about the "head of household" filing status? Would the roommate still qualify for that if they're not claiming their child?

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No, if he doesn't claim his daughter as a dependent, he can't file as head of household. He'd have to file as single, which has worse tax rates and a lower standard deduction. That would probably hurt him more financially than whatever benefit OP might share from illegally claiming the kid.

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks for explaining that. Makes sense why he'd want someone else to claim his kid if he's not making enough to benefit from the credits, but sounds like he'd lose the head of household status which is pretty valuable.

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Mason Lopez

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Have you considered a hybrid approach? I'm a single-member LLC too, and I use two vehicles. My older car (2018 Civic) is 100% business use - I take standard mileage on that one because it's simple and the car is fully depreciated. Then I have my newer SUV that I use for mixed personal/occasional business when I need to haul equipment. This separation makes recordkeeping way cleaner and avoids the whole business/personal allocation mess. Plus, insurance is often cheaper on a vehicle that's only driving to client sites versus one that's also used for family trips.

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Vera Visnjic

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How do you handle insurance and registration for the 100% business car? Do you put that in your business name? My insurance was weird about covering a personal vehicle used primarily for business.

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Mason Lopez

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I have the business vehicle registered and insured under my LLC name with a commercial auto policy. You're right that it can be tricky with personal policies - many won't properly cover business use or will charge extra. The commercial policy actually ended up being around the same price after shopping around, and it provides better coverage for my situation. The registration in the business name also makes it clearer to the IRS that it's a dedicated business asset. One thing to note though - if you go this route, you need to be disciplined about never using that vehicle for personal trips, not even stopping for personal errands during business trips.

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I lease a car through my single-member LLC and it's been great tax-wise. With a lease, you can deduct the business portion of your payments plus operating expenses OR use the standard mileage rate - whichever is better. Just make sure the lease is actually in your business name if you go this route. The best thing is no worries about depreciation recapture if you sell it later. The downside is those annoying excess mileage fees if you drive a lot, which sounds like you might with 16k business miles.

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Did you have to pay a higher rate for a business lease vs a personal one? I looked into this and the dealer wanted to charge me more when I mentioned it was for my business.

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Daryl Bright

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For next year, you should definitely set up quarterly estimated tax payments for your 1099 income. I learned this the hard way too! The general rule is if you expect to owe more than $1,000 at tax time, you should be making quarterly payments to avoid penalties. Also, check your W4 forms at your jobs. If you have multiple income sources, you might need to have additional withholding from your paychecks. There's a section on the W4 where you can specify an extra amount to withhold per paycheck.

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Romeo Quest

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Thank you for this advice! I definitely need to fix this for next year. How do I calculate how much to pay for quarterly estimated taxes? And where exactly on the W4 do I add extra withholding?

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Daryl Bright

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For estimated quarterly taxes, you can use the worksheet that comes with Form 1040-ES. Basically, you estimate your total tax liability for the year and divide by four. Pay special attention to your 1099 income - you generally need to set aside about 30-35% of that for taxes (15.3% for self-employment tax plus your income tax rate). For the W4, look at Step 4(c) "Extra withholding." You can put any additional amount you want withheld from each paycheck. If you have multiple W2 jobs, there's also a "Multiple Jobs Worksheet" that can help calculate this more precisely. Your HR department should be able to provide you with a new W4 form to update this information.

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Sienna Gomez

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Has anyone had luck amending a return after filing? I just realized I missed some deductions after I already submitted, and now I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle to amend.

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I amended last year and it was actually pretty easy. Just file Form 1040-X and include any updated forms that changed. FreeTaxUSA can help you prepare an amended return too. Just be aware that processing times are really slow right now - mine took about 4 months.

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