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Deceased Relative's Unpaid Tax Debt: Handling Liens and Getting IRS Transcripts

I'm currently serving as the executor for a family member's estate who passed away in 2022. Without going into all the details, the estate administration has been seriously delayed. Here's what I'm dealing with: My relative suffered from progressive dementia and hadn't filed any tax returns from 2013 until their death. We have very spotty financial records and I'm completely in the dark about what the IRS believes is owed. The IRS has been sending collection notices for unpaid taxes from 2013 and 2014, and they've now placed liens on the deceased's house, which is the main asset in the estate. I live in a completely different state about 1,300 miles from where my relative lived. Someone suggested I should request "tax transcripts" for the years 2013-2022 to figure out the outstanding tax debt. I checked the IRS website which mentions transcripts contain information from returns, but doesn't clarify if they show what the IRS thinks is owed. I believe I need to submit forms to: 1) formally establish myself as the executor, 2) change the mailing address from my relative's house to mine so I receive communications faster, and 3) request those transcripts. The problem is there seem to be multiple forms for these purposes and the website is confusing me. I tried calling the IRS but hit nothing but automated systems asking for my own SSN, which doesn't help since I'm trying to handle someone else's tax situation. It seems impossible to reach an actual human being for guidance. The closest IRS assistance office is about 150 miles from me, making an in-person visit impractical. I'm thinking I might need to hire a tax professional, but I'm not sure if I should find someone local to me or someone in my deceased relative's state (where I can't easily travel for meetings). I'm completely overwhelmed and getting more stressed by the day. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Based on my experience settling my cousin's estate, you absolutely need a tax professional who specializes in estates with tax problems. I'd recommend looking for an Enrolled Agent rather than a CPA - they often charge less but have specific expertise in dealing with the IRS. You should find someone in the deceased's state since they'll be familiar with both the state tax laws and potentially have relationships with the local IRS office. Most work can be done remotely, but having someone who understands the local requirements is invaluable. One thing nobody mentioned - if the estate doesn't have enough liquid assets to pay the tax debt, you might qualify for an Offer in Compromise specifically for estates. An EA can help determine if that's feasible given your situation.

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Zoe Stavros

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Thanks for this advice. I've been looking at professionals online, but wasn't sure about the CPA vs EA distinction. Do you know if there's a national directory specifically for EAs who specialize in estate tax issues?

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The National Association of Enrolled Agents (NAEA) has a directory on their website where you can search by specialty, including estate and trust taxation. Just go to the NAEA website and look for their "Find an EA" feature. I'd also recommend calling a few estate attorneys in the deceased's city - they typically work closely with tax specialists who handle complex estate matters and can make solid recommendations. When you talk to potential EAs, specifically ask about their experience with unfiled returns and IRS collections for deceased taxpayers, as this is a specialized area.

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One warning from my own experience - do NOT file any tax returns yet until you get the transcripts and understand what the IRS already has on record! I made this mistake with my father's estate and created a huge mess. Get Form 56 filed first to establish your authority, then get the account transcripts which will show assessments and balances. Also request the wage and income transcripts which show all income reported to the IRS on forms like W-2, 1099, etc. If the IRS has already made assessments (called Substitute for Returns), filing returns without understanding what they've already processed can create duplicate assessments or conflicting information that takes forever to resolve. You mentioned liens - check the exact type of lien. If it's a "Notice of Federal Tax Lien," that's public and affects property sales. If it's just a "Notice of Intent to Lien," you might still have time to request a Collection Due Process hearing.

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StarSeeker

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What's the difference between account transcripts and wage/income transcripts? Aren't they the same thing?

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The free version of TurboTax is extremely limited. I've used FreeTaxUSA for the last three years and have been really happy with it. Federal filing is free no matter how complex your return is, and state filing is only like $15. They don't do the bait and switch garbage that TurboTax pulls every year.

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Anna Xian

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Do they handle Schedule 3 forms with the free version? And is the interface easy to use? I'm not super tax-savvy but I can follow instructions well enough.

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Yes, they handle Schedule 3 forms in their free federal version. Their interface isn't quite as slick as TurboTax, but it's definitely user-friendly and walks you through everything step by step. The free version includes virtually all federal forms and schedules - the only things they charge extra for are audit assistance and amended returns. State filing does cost around $15, but that's still way cheaper than what TurboTax charges for their "Deluxe" tier.

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This happens every year with TurboTax. I made the switch to Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) and it's completely free for federal AND state, including most common forms like Schedule 3.

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Rajan Walker

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I tried Cash App Taxes this year but it kept glitching on me when I tried to enter my student loan interest deduction. Did you have any technical issues with it?

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How to Effectively Challenge the IRS About Marketplace Healthcare Credits?

Ugh, I've spent the last three months in an absolute nightmare with the IRS over our healthcare premium tax credits from 2024! My husband and I purchased our insurance through Healthcare.gov (the federal marketplace since our state doesn't have its own exchange), and now the IRS is claiming they "can't verify" that we actually bought through the exchange. We got a letter (CP11) stating they're disallowing about $3700 in premium tax credits, turning our expected $2200 refund into a $1400 bill! I immediately sent in our 1095-A form, but a few weeks later we got this massive 4800C letter saying they still couldn't verify our marketplace coverage and we still owe the money. I've called the IRS at least 8 times now. Each time I wait on hold for 2+ hours just to speak to someone who gives me different answers about what documentation to send. One agent says send premium statements, another says send eligibility letters, and NONE of them can confirm if they even received the documents I already sent! I've sent everything I could find - 1095-A forms, eligibility letters from the marketplace, screenshots of my Healthcare.gov account showing the payments, confirmation emails - basically an entire folder of proof. But I just got ANOTHER letter saying they're still disallowing the credits. Has anyone successfully fought the IRS on premium tax credits? What documentation actually worked? I'm going crazy with this and don't know what to do next!

One thing nobody's mentioned yet is contacting your Congressional representative's office. I had a nightmare situation with the IRS last year that dragged on for 8 months with no resolution despite sending in documentation multiple times. I finally contacted my Congressman's office and explained the situation. They have staff specifically dedicated to helping constituents with federal agency issues. I filled out a privacy release form, and within THREE WEEKS, the IRS had processed my documentation and resolved the issue. Congressional offices have special channels to IRS Taxpayer Advocate offices that can cut through red tape. Don't underestimate how effective this approach can be when you've tried everything else!

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That's a great suggestion I hadn't thought of! Did you just call your representative's local office? Was there a specific person or department you asked for? I'm willing to try anything at this point.

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Yes, I called my rep's local district office (not their DC office). Just ask to speak with the caseworker who handles IRS issues. Every congressional office has staff dedicated to constituent services. They'll email you a privacy release form that you need to sign and return, which gives them permission to inquire about your case. Make sure you provide them with copies of all the correspondence you've had with the IRS so far, including your notice numbers and any reference numbers. The magic happens because congressional inquiries go to a special unit at the IRS that is much more responsive than regular channels. They have to provide updates to congressional offices, so things suddenly start moving much faster.

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Mei Chen

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Has anyone tried using the IRS's online account features to resolve these types of issues? I set up an online account on IRS.gov recently and was shocked to find I could see all my notices, tax records, and even upload documents directly through the portal rather than mailing them. I'm wondering if uploading documents this way is more reliable than sending them through the mail where they seem to get lost in the void.

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CosmicCadet

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I've used the online account system and while it's good for viewing your tax records and making payments, I found the document upload feature to be hit or miss. I uploaded documentation for an issue similar to OP's, and there was no confirmation that anyone had reviewed it or that it was attached to my case. I ended up having to mail in physical copies anyway after calling and finding out the uploaded documents weren't associated with my specific case/notice. The system needs a lot of improvement.

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Mei Chen

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Thanks for sharing your experience. That's disappointing to hear. I was hoping the online system would be more efficient, but sounds like it has the same problems as mailing documents. Did you at least get some kind of upload confirmation when you submitted the documents, or was it completely unclear if they were received at all?

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One thing to watch out for with multiple jobs in the same year: Social Security tax withholding. Each employer will withhold 6.2% for Social Security up to the annual wage base limit ($147,000 in 2022), but they don't know what another employer already withheld. If your combined income from both jobs exceeds the wage base limit, you might have excess Social Security tax withheld. The good news is you'll get this back when you file your return. Just something to be aware of when looking at your YTD totals.

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Jade Lopez

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Oh that's really interesting and not something I had considered! My combined income won't be anywhere near that limit this year, but good to know for the future. Are there any other deductions that might work this way when you have multiple employers?

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Medicare withholding is different - there's no wage base limit for the standard 1.45% Medicare tax, so that continues regardless of how much you earn. However, there is an Additional Medicare Tax of 0.9% that kicks in when your income exceeds $200,000, which can also be overwithheld with multiple employers since each employer starts withholding this when your wages with them exceed $200,000. State unemployment insurance contributions might also have wage bases that work similarly to Social Security, where you could have excess withholding with multiple employers. This varies by state though, so you'd need to check your specific state's rules.

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I recommend getting an account on the IRS website to track your withholding. You can see what each employer has reported for your quarterly tax payments. Super helpful when you've had multiple jobs!

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Nina Chan

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I've heard about this but haven't tried it. Is it the same as creating an account on irs.gov? Is it easy to set up? I've had three W-2 jobs this year plus some freelance work and I'm worried about keeping track of everything.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you're getting a refund from your amended return, e-filing is DEFINITELY the way to go. I paper-filed an amended return last year and waited almost 7 months for my refund. My friend e-filed hers around the same time and had her refund in about 12 weeks. The IRS is still dealing with massive backlogs from the pandemic, and paper returns go to the back of the line.

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Skylar Neal

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Thank you all for the great advice! I'm going with e-filing for sure now. My amendment is pretty straightforward - just forgot to include some charitable donations. Does anyone know if there's a way to check the status of an e-filed amended return online? Or do I just have to wait?

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Yes, you can definitely check the status online! Go to the IRS website and use the "Where's My Amended Return?" tool. You'll need to enter your SSN, date of birth, and zip code. It takes about 3 weeks for an e-filed amended return to show up in their system. Once it shows up, the tracking will tell you if your return is received, adjusted, or completed. The tool updates weekly, usually on Thursdays, so don't worry if you don't see updates every day. It's a great way to keep tabs on where things stand without having to call.

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Just wanted to add that even with e-filing, be prepared to wait. I e-filed an amended return in January and it still took about 14 weeks to process. Way better than paper (my previous paper-filed amendment took 9 months!), but still not quick. Make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING related to your amendment.

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This is really important advice! I'd also recommend taking screenshots of any confirmation screens when you e-file. My tax software said my amended return was accepted, but when I checked the IRS site 4 weeks later, they had no record of it. Had to resubmit everything.

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