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Adaline Wong

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I'm a payroll administrator, and I see this confusion all the time with employees. The way Box 12c works is that it shows the TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS to qualified plans, not just what the employer contributed. Your contributions were already taken out pre-tax, meaning they've already reduced your taxable wages in Box 1. If you were to enter your contributions separately when filing taxes, you'd essentially be double-dipping on the tax benefit. That's why your tax due dropped dramatically when you did that - but it would be incorrect and could potentially trigger an audit.

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This makes sense now! So just to be 100% clear - I should just use the W-2 exactly as is and not try to separate out what I contributed vs what my employer contributed when filing, right? And if I'm using tax software, should I just enter the W-2 information exactly as it appears on the form?

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Adaline Wong

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Yes, that's exactly right! You should use the W-2 exactly as is and not try to separate your contributions from your employer's when filing. The tax software is designed to handle this correctly when you enter your W-2 information as it appears on the form. Your pre-tax contributions have already reduced your taxable wages in Box 1, which is the primary tax benefit. Box 12c simply reports the total qualified retirement plan contributions for informational purposes and to ensure compliance with annual contribution limits. Trying to separate them out would incorrectly give you a double tax benefit.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Has anyone noticed that the way this is reported seems designed to confuse people? I almost made this same mistake last year. I think the form should clearly indicate "employee contributions" and "employer contributions" separately instead of lumping them together. Would save so many people headaches!

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Totally agree! The tax code and forms seem deliberately confusing. I've been doing my own taxes for 15 years and still learn something new every year. The IRS could make this so much clearer with better labeling.

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I'm a tax preparer (not a CPA) and see this all the time with gig workers. Here's a simplified explanation: The Earned Income Credit has a "bell curve" - as your income increases, the credit increases until it hits a peak, then starts decreasing. If your income is around $15,000-$20,000 (depends on filing status), adding business deductions could push you DOWN the curve, meaning less credit. Example: Say you made $18,000 in delivery income, and have $10,000 in mileage deductions. Your actual business income becomes $8,000. If the peak EIC is at $15,000 for your situation, you're now getting less credit than if you had $15,000 of income. It's completely legitimate to claim all your business miles - you SHOULD claim them. But this is why your refund might go down when you add them.

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Thanks for explaining this so clearly. So if I'm understanding right, I should still claim all my legitimate miles even if it lowers my refund? I don't want to get in trouble by trying to manipulate my return.

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Yes, you should absolutely claim all legitimate business expenses, including your mileage. The goal of tax filing isn't to maximize your refund - it's to accurately report your income and expenses. Not claiming legitimate expenses because it gives you a larger refund could potentially be problematic if you're audited. The IRS would expect to see business expenses for a delivery driver. Plus, if your income changes next year, those same deductions might actually help you more than hurt you.

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Is anyone else having issues with the mileage tracker on the FreeTaxUSA self-employment section? It keeps resetting my numbers.

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Levi Parker

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I had that problem! Found out it happens if you go back and change info on a previous page. Try entering all your income info first, then don't go back to those pages before adding your mileage.

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Should I do my taxes myself or hire someone with all these 1099s, W-2s, and investment forms?

So I was planning to just do my taxes myself using FreeTaxUSA since it's only a few dollars. I also heard CashApp has free filing but might be harder to navigate. Since it's my first time filing, I thought paying a little for help would be worth it, but now I'm realizing this is WAY more complicated than just entering a W-2. My situation this year: - I have a 1099 job where I've been setting aside 15.3% for taxes - I worked at two different places that gave me W-2s - I did some contract work for my mom's employer as a 1099. In 2023, they paid me about $1,500 but I only kept $750 (gave the rest back to my mom for expenses) and never received a 1099 form - For 2024, they did give me a 1099, but used a different platform for the first three months - I sold stuff on eBay (already got a 1099-K) and Poshmark (expecting one soon) - My college is sending a 1098-T for scholarships and refunds - I sold stocks and crypto on CashApp, Webull, and Robinhood - I have interest from a high-yield savings account - Bought $25 of Bitcoin on Coinbase for a $50 welcome bonus I'm only 18 and this is my first time dealing with taxes. Also when I was 16-17, my friend who was 18 sponsored my CashApp investing account. I never filed taxes for that. This year CashApp automatically sold my stocks (worth about $400) when I tried transferring to Robinhood. Just found out CashApp sent me a 1099 for this in February 2024... am I in trouble? Should I still try to do this myself or just hire someone at this point?

Honestly with all those different forms and income sources, you should definitely hire someone this first time. I tried doing mine myself last year with multiple 1099s and crypto and ended up missing a bunch of deductions. Paid an accountant this year who found like $2,800 more in refunds than I would have gotten doing it myself. Ask friends for recommendations for accountants who work with younger people/first time filers. Many offer student discounts. And the money you spend will likely be saved in either reduced tax liability or avoiding penalties for mistakes.

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Emma Wilson

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How much did it cost you to hire an accountant? That's my concern - I'm on a pretty tight budget.

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I paid $275 for my tax preparation, but my situation was pretty complex (multiple states, business income, investments). For your first-time filing with a somewhat simpler situation, you might find someone for $150-200. Some accountants also offer sliding scale fees for students or first-time filers. The value really comes from learning how everything works so you can potentially do it yourself in future years. Ask them to explain what they're doing as they go, and take notes about which forms apply to your situation. Consider it both a tax service and an education investment.

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StarStrider

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If your income isn't crazy high, check if there's a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) program near you. They do free tax prep for people making under $60k. I used them when I was in college and they handled my W-2s, 1098-T, and even some basic investment stuff. Not sure about crypto though.

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Sean Doyle

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VITA is great but sometimes they won't help with self-employment (the 1099 stuff) or more complex situations. Worth checking though since each location has different capabilities.

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Omar Mahmoud

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Another option nobody's mentioned yet - if you used an IP PIN last year, check your old tax return! Your previous year's tax software might have saved a copy of the form with your IP PIN on it. I lost mine last year and nearly panicked until I realized I had a saved PDF of my entire return from the previous year which included the IP PIN letter. Might be worth checking your email for tax receipt confirmations too - sometimes they include that info. If that doesn't work, definitely try the specialized unit number (800-908-4490) that someone mentioned above - they're usually more accessible than the main IRS lines.

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Chloe Harris

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This is great advice! I just checked my old emails and found my TurboTax confirmation from last year which had my IP PIN information in the attached PDF. Saved me so much hassle! Definitely check your email archives before going through the whole recovery process.

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Diego Vargas

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Has anyone had success getting their refund without the IP PIN? I'm wondering if I can just file without it and explain the situation on the return somehow? I'm worried my stimulus money will go to someone else if I don't file soon.

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NeonNinja

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DO NOT file without your IP PIN if you've been issued one! The IRS automatically rejects returns filed with your SSN that don't include the correct IP PIN. It triggers their fraud detection system and can cause even bigger delays and potential audits. Always get a replacement PIN through the proper channels before filing.

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Deceased Relative's Unpaid Tax Debt: Handling Liens and Getting IRS Transcripts

I'm currently serving as the executor for a family member's estate who passed away in 2022. Without going into all the details, the estate administration has been seriously delayed. Here's what I'm dealing with: My relative suffered from progressive dementia and hadn't filed any tax returns from 2013 until their death. We have very spotty financial records and I'm completely in the dark about what the IRS believes is owed. The IRS has been sending collection notices for unpaid taxes from 2013 and 2014, and they've now placed liens on the deceased's house, which is the main asset in the estate. I live in a completely different state about 1,300 miles from where my relative lived. Someone suggested I should request "tax transcripts" for the years 2013-2022 to figure out the outstanding tax debt. I checked the IRS website which mentions transcripts contain information from returns, but doesn't clarify if they show what the IRS thinks is owed. I believe I need to submit forms to: 1) formally establish myself as the executor, 2) change the mailing address from my relative's house to mine so I receive communications faster, and 3) request those transcripts. The problem is there seem to be multiple forms for these purposes and the website is confusing me. I tried calling the IRS but hit nothing but automated systems asking for my own SSN, which doesn't help since I'm trying to handle someone else's tax situation. It seems impossible to reach an actual human being for guidance. The closest IRS assistance office is about 150 miles from me, making an in-person visit impractical. I'm thinking I might need to hire a tax professional, but I'm not sure if I should find someone local to me or someone in my deceased relative's state (where I can't easily travel for meetings). I'm completely overwhelmed and getting more stressed by the day. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Sofia Ramirez

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Based on my experience settling my cousin's estate, you absolutely need a tax professional who specializes in estates with tax problems. I'd recommend looking for an Enrolled Agent rather than a CPA - they often charge less but have specific expertise in dealing with the IRS. You should find someone in the deceased's state since they'll be familiar with both the state tax laws and potentially have relationships with the local IRS office. Most work can be done remotely, but having someone who understands the local requirements is invaluable. One thing nobody mentioned - if the estate doesn't have enough liquid assets to pay the tax debt, you might qualify for an Offer in Compromise specifically for estates. An EA can help determine if that's feasible given your situation.

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Zoe Stavros

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Thanks for this advice. I've been looking at professionals online, but wasn't sure about the CPA vs EA distinction. Do you know if there's a national directory specifically for EAs who specialize in estate tax issues?

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Sofia Ramirez

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The National Association of Enrolled Agents (NAEA) has a directory on their website where you can search by specialty, including estate and trust taxation. Just go to the NAEA website and look for their "Find an EA" feature. I'd also recommend calling a few estate attorneys in the deceased's city - they typically work closely with tax specialists who handle complex estate matters and can make solid recommendations. When you talk to potential EAs, specifically ask about their experience with unfiled returns and IRS collections for deceased taxpayers, as this is a specialized area.

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Dmitry Volkov

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One warning from my own experience - do NOT file any tax returns yet until you get the transcripts and understand what the IRS already has on record! I made this mistake with my father's estate and created a huge mess. Get Form 56 filed first to establish your authority, then get the account transcripts which will show assessments and balances. Also request the wage and income transcripts which show all income reported to the IRS on forms like W-2, 1099, etc. If the IRS has already made assessments (called Substitute for Returns), filing returns without understanding what they've already processed can create duplicate assessments or conflicting information that takes forever to resolve. You mentioned liens - check the exact type of lien. If it's a "Notice of Federal Tax Lien," that's public and affects property sales. If it's just a "Notice of Intent to Lien," you might still have time to request a Collection Due Process hearing.

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StarSeeker

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What's the difference between account transcripts and wage/income transcripts? Aren't they the same thing?

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