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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - have you checked if you qualify for any deductions or credits that might lower your MAGI? Things like student loan interest, retirement contributions, or the self-employed health insurance deduction can all reduce your MAGI, which might put you in a lower repayment cap bracket. I was in a similar situation last year and realized I could make a retroactive IRA contribution for the tax year, which lowered my MAGI just enough to qualify for a lower repayment cap. Saved me about $400!
That's a really smart idea I hadn't considered! I do have student loans and I've been making payments. Would those interest deductions help in this situation? Also, is it too late to make retirement contributions that would count for last year?
Student loan interest can definitely help lower your MAGI, which is exactly what you want in this situation. You can deduct up to $2,500 in student loan interest depending on your income level. As for retirement contributions, you can still make IRA contributions for 2024 until the tax filing deadline in April 2025. If you have self-employment income, you might also be eligible for a SEP IRA which has higher contribution limits. Just make sure you specify that the contribution is for tax year 2024 when you make it. This is one of the few "retroactive" moves you can make that legally affects your previous year's taxes.
Has anyone actually had success making retroactive changes to their marketplace application after the year is over? I'm in a similar situation but when I called my state marketplace, they told me it was too late to make changes for last year's coverage.
Yes! I successfully did this. The key is that you need to contact the marketplace and specifically request an "income adjustment review" for the previous year. The regular customer service reps often don't know about this process. Ask to speak with a supervisor or advanced resolution team. Explain that you made an honest mistake in reporting your income (confusing net vs. gross) and request the review. They may have you submit documentation of your actual income. In my case, they adjusted my 1095-A and issued a corrected one, which significantly reduced what I owed.
Just FYI - for the American Opportunity Credit, remember you need to be pursuing a degree, enrolled at least half time, and within your first 4 years of post-secondary education. Also check if you're actually eligible based on income - it starts phasing out at $80,000 for single filers and $160,000 for married filing jointly. I personally used FreeTaxUSA last year for my daughter's education credits and had no issues. Their interface isn't as fancy as TurboTax but it gets the job done for free (federal) and cheap (state).
Does anyone know if the American Opportunity Credit can be claimed if you're going back to school for a second bachelor's degree? Or does the "first 4 years" rule mean your first degree only?
The "first 4 years" rule refers to the first four years of post-secondary education total, not just your first degree. So if you already completed a 4-year bachelor's degree, you generally wouldn't qualify for the American Opportunity Credit for a second bachelor's. In that case, you might still qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit though, which doesn't have the "first 4 years" restriction. It's worth less (20% of up to $10,000 in qualified expenses), but still helps reduce your tax bill.
Has anyone tried TaxSlayer? Their website says they include the American Opportunity Credit in their free version if your AGI is under $60k. I'm thinking of giving them a try this year.
If you filed paper amended returns, be prepared to wait even longer. My 2020 amended return took 11 months to process last year, while my 2021 (filed at the same time) was done in about 5 months. There's absolutely no rhyme or reason to how they process these things. One tip: if you're approaching the 3-year deadline for claiming a refund on any of those years, make sure you keep proof of when you submitted the amended return. The IRS has to honor the date you filed even if they process it after the deadline.
I did mail paper returns for all three years because I had to include some supporting documentation. Did you do anything special to make the process go faster for the 2021 return?
I didn't do anything special for the 2021 return - it just happened to get processed faster. Paper returns are unfortunately at the mercy of whichever processing center they get sent to and how backed up that specific location is. One thing I learned later is that you can actually e-file amended returns for tax years 2019 and later using certain tax software, even with supporting documentation (you can scan and attach PDFs). E-filed amendments tend to process much faster than paper ones. For future reference, that might be a better option if you ever need to amend again.
Has anyone tried going to their local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center? I had a similar situation last year and made an appointment at my local office. The agent there was able to look up all my amended returns and give me specific information about each one. You have to call 844-545-5640 to make an appointment though - they don't take walk-ins.
I did this for my amended returns too. The in-person agent was WAY more helpful than phone support. She even spotted a mistake in my 2019 amendment that would have caused issues and let me fix it on the spot.
That's great to hear your experience was similar! The in-person assistance is definitely underrated. The agents at the Taxpayer Assistance Centers seem to have more time to thoroughly review your situation compared to phone agents who are trying to get through as many calls as possible. I've found they can also sometimes expedite processing if you have a legitimate hardship situation or if there's been an unusually long delay. Did they offer to help speed things up in your case?
One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're self-employed and haven't filed for years, you may also have missed paying self-employment taxes. This means you haven't been paying into Social Security and Medicare, which could affect your benefits later. When you file your back returns, make sure your tax pro properly completes Schedule SE for each year. Also, don't forget to address estimated tax payments going forward. Once you're back in the system, the IRS will expect you to make quarterly estimated payments since you're self-employed with substantial income. Getting on a proper estimated payment schedule will prevent this problem from happening again.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Do you know if there's any way to "make up" for those missed Social Security contributions? Or am I just permanently losing those quarters of coverage for retirement calculations?
When you file your back returns with Schedule SE for each year, you'll essentially be making up those Social Security and Medicare contributions (albeit with penalties and interest). The good news is that once you pay these taxes, those quarters will count toward your coverage for Social Security benefit calculations. There's no permanent loss of credit. The bad news is that self-employment tax is a significant amount (about 15.3% of your net earnings) on top of income tax. This often catches people by surprise when filing back returns. Make sure your tax professional looks for all legitimate business deductions on Schedule C to reduce your net profit, which in turn reduces your self-employment tax liability.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but consider opening with a current year return. Start fresh with 2023 (due next month) and get it filed on time. This demonstrates good faith to the IRS and starts establishing compliance going forward while you work backward on the unfiled years. Also, keep in mind the difference between "substitute for returns" (SFRs) and returns you file yourself. If the IRS filed SFRs for any years (they sometimes do this when you don't file), you'll still need to file your own returns to claim deductions they wouldn't have included.
This is solid advice. I did exactly this when dealing with my unfiled returns. Filed the current year on time, then worked backwards. The revenue officer specifically mentioned this showed "good faith" and it seemed to help during negotiations. Also helped psychologically to feel like I wasn't continuing to dig the hole deeper.
Kylo Ren
Something that tripped me up with my 1042-S last year - make sure you check if you need to file Form 8833 to claim treaty benefits! If your university already applied a treaty exemption on your 1042-S (check Box 3 and 4 on your form), you might need to file this additional form with your return to properly report the treaty position. Also double check your withholding on the 1042-S. Many universities withhold at 30% if they don't have proper documentation, which could be way higher than your actual tax rate. You'll get this back as a refund when you file, but it's good to know what to expect.
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Wesley Hallow
ā¢Thank you so much for mentioning Form 8833! I just checked my 1042-S and they did apply a treaty benefit (there's something in Box 3 and 4). Will that form be available in regular tax software or do I need something special to file it?
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Kylo Ren
ā¢Most major tax software packages like TurboTax, H&R Block, and TaxSlayer have Form 8833 available, but you might need to specifically search for it as it's not always included in the standard interview process. Some of the free filing options might not include this form. When you complete Form 8833, you'll need to reference the specific treaty article that applies to your situation. This information should be mentioned on your 1042-S in Box 13j typically. You'll also need to provide a brief explanation of the treaty benefit you're claiming. Don't worry too much about the technical language - just clearly state what type of income is covered (scholarship, fellowship, etc.) and which country's treaty applies to you.
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Nina Fitzgerald
Quick tip from someone who's dealt with 1042-S forms for the past 3 years - the extension you filed covers everything on your personal return (including 1042-S income), but double check that you don't also need to file Form 8843 if you're a nonresident alien or were one during part of the tax year! That form has a different deadline and isn't automatically extended with Form 4868.
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Jason Brewer
ā¢Is that form 8843 required even if you're just getting a small amount on a 1042-S? I got one for a $500 prize from a contest but I'm a US citizen. Do i still need that form?
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