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I work at an accounting firm and see CSF-1099R confusion all the time. When Box 2a is $0 but Code 7 is used, look at whether Box 2b is checked. If "Taxable amount not determined" is checked, the payer is basically saying "we don't know your tax basis, so we're putting $0 and you need to figure it out." You'll need to calculate how much of the distribution is actually taxable based on your contribution history. If you made after-tax contributions, those amounts come out tax-free. Keep in mind that earnings on those contributions are still taxable. Form 8606 is your friend here - use it to track non-deductible contributions and calculate the taxable portion.
Thanks for this detailed explanation! So if Box 2b is checked (which it is), I need to look back at my contribution history? Is there an easy way to know if my contributions were pre-tax or after-tax? I honestly don't remember since I was at this job 8 years ago.
Yes, if Box 2b is checked, you need to determine the taxable amount yourself. To know if your contributions were pre-tax or after-tax, check your old pay stubs if you have them - pre-tax contributions would have reduced your taxable wages at the time. Another way is to contact your former employer's benefits department - they should have records of whether your plan allowed after-tax contributions and if you made any. If you can't determine this, unfortunately the safest approach is to treat the distribution as fully taxable, though that may result in paying more tax than necessary.
I just wanted to add - watch out for state tax implications too! I had a CSF-1099R with $0 in Box 2a, and while it was correct for federal purposes (after-tax contributions), my state didn't recognize the federal treatment. I had to add back some of it on my state return. The treatment varies by state, so check your state's rules specifically regarding pension and retirement distributions.
As a parent who's also paid for ABA therapy out-of-pocket, I'd suggest a different approach. Email your therapist stating that you understand she keeps busy, but you need documentation for tax purposes. Suggest a simple solution: "Even a signed letter stating the total amount paid in 2024 would be sufficient." Keep your communication in writing. If she still refuses, mention that you'll need to consult with the state licensing board about proper business practices for ABA providers. Sometimes a gentle reminder about professional standards is enough to get results.
Does mentioning the licensing board actually work? I'm dealing with a similar situation and worried about damaging the relationship with my child's therapist if I come across as threatening.
Mentioning the licensing board isn't meant as a threat but as a gentle reminder of professional standards. I've found it works about 80% of the time because most providers don't want any licensing complications. The key is how you phrase it. Something like "I may need to consult with the licensing board to understand the standard documentation requirements for ABA services" sounds collaborative rather than confrontational. Most therapists will recognize it's easier to provide the documentation than deal with any potential inquiry. Just keep all communication respectful and focused on your legitimate need for tax documentation.
I'm wondering if something fishy is happening with your therapist's taxes. My wife is a private practice therapist, and she's REQUIRED to provide documentation of payments to clients. For cash payments, she gives a receipt at each session and provides year-end statements in January. The fact your therapist is charging extra for this basic business function suggests either extremely poor business practices or possibly tax evasion. Neither is good. If you continue with her, I'd strongly suggest switching to checks or electronic payments and getting receipts for EVERY payment going forward.
Thank you for sharing this perspective from someone who would know! I'm starting to think her reluctance might be about more than just being disorganized. Would your wife consider it unusual or inappropriate to charge clients for providing payment records? I'm wondering if this is standard practice I'm just not familiar with.
My wife says charging clients for payment records is absolutely NOT standard practice and would be considered highly unprofessional in her field. Providing payment documentation is a basic business responsibility, not an "extra service" that warrants additional fees. In fact, most healthcare providers are moving toward patient portals or automated systems that make accessing payment records easier than ever. Your therapist's response suggests either extreme disorganization or potential tax issues. Either way, if you continue services, I'd recommend immediately switching to a payment method that creates automatic records - checks, electronic transfers, or even credit card payments if possible. The fact she's expanding her practice makes proper financial documentation even more important.
I'm an enrolled agent and see this all the time. The 4314c letter is basically saying "we cashed your check but we're still looking at your paperwork." Don't panic - this is normal IRS bureaucracy. Different departments don't communicate well with each other. Collections got your payment but Exam is still reviewing your documents. Keep records of EVERYTHING - payment confirmations, copies of what you sent them, certified mail receipts if you have them, etc. If they don't resolve it within the 90 days, they'll likely send another 4314c letter extending the time. It's annoying but common.
Do you recommend responding to the 4314c letter in any way? Or just wait it out? I got one too after responding to a different notice.
You generally don't need to respond to a 4314c letter unless it specifically requests additional information. It's mainly informational, letting you know they're still working on your case. Just wait it out - responding when no response is required can sometimes confuse matters and potentially delay the process further. If you're approaching the end of the 90 days and haven't heard anything, you could call to check the status, but otherwise just be patient. These letters are frustrating but part of their normal process.
Does the 4314c letter mention anything about interest continuing to accrue? I had a similar situation but even after I paid what they initially said I owed, they charged interest for the time they were "reviewing" my documents. Ended up having to pay an extra $287.
This happened to me too. Even though I paid what the CP2000 said I owed, I still got charged interest during their "review period." Make sure you check any future notices carefully because they might bill you for interest even if you paid the principal amount on time.
11 My two cents as someone who was in almost the exact same situation (9 years unfiled): The WORST thing that happened was losing out on about $7,000 in refunds from the years beyond the 3-year refund window. It still makes me sick thinking about it. Start with the most recent 3 years to secure those refunds, then work backward. The IRS was actually surprisingly helpful once I started the process. No jail, no asset seizure, no scary agents showing up at my door. Just a lot of paperwork and a bit of a learning curve.
18 Did you do it yourself or use a tax professional? I'm wondering if I should just use TurboTax for the back years or if that's a bad idea.
11 I started with a tax professional for the first year just to make sure I understood the process correctly, then did the remaining years myself using tax software. Most tax software can handle prior year returns, though you might need to purchase specific versions for each tax year. For simple W2 income situations, doing it yourself is definitely doable. If there's business income, rental properties, or other complex situations, a tax pro might be worth the money. The main thing is just getting started - the relief of having it done is worth every minute spent on the paperwork.
3 One thing nobody's mentioned - the mental health benefit of clearing this up! I had 6 years unfiled and the constant background anxiety was affecting every part of my life. After finally filing, it was like a 50-pound weight lifted off my shoulders. Even if your partner doesn't get all the refunds they could have, the peace of mind is PRICELESS.
15 This is so true. My wife had the same anxiety for years about unfiled taxes. She'd literally have panic attacks whenever tax season came around or when she saw IRS-related news. After we finally sorted it out, her general anxiety level dropped dramatically. The psychological burden of carrying that fear is way worse than the actual process of fixing it.
Andre Laurent
Check your paystubs to see what your YTD (year-to-date) withholding was at the end of the year. Your company definitely made a mistake on your W-2. If you were having taxes taken out all year, they need to issue you a corrected W-2. Don't file your taxes with the incorrect form!
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Zara Ahmed
ā¢Thanks for the advice! I do have my last paystub from December that shows all the YTD withholding amounts. It's very clear taxes were taken out. I'm going to try reaching the payroll department directly tomorrow morning. Do I need to wait for the corrected W-2 before filing, or is there some way to file with my paystub information?
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Andre Laurent
ā¢Definitely wait for the corrected W-2 if possible. Your employer should be able to generate a corrected form fairly quickly once you point out the error. If they're really dragging their feet and the tax deadline is approaching, you can file using Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) using the information from your paystubs. But this should be a last resort since it can delay processing of your return and might trigger extra verification from the IRS.
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AstroAce
Did u check if ur a contractor not employee? If ur 1099 not w2 then they dont take out taxes. Happened to my friend.
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Zoe Kyriakidou
ā¢That's a good point about checking employment status, but the OP mentioned they saw tax withholding on their paystubs throughout the year, which wouldn't happen for a 1099 contractor. Sounds like a W-2 error rather than a misclassification issue.
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Zara Ahmed
ā¢I'm definitely an employee with a W-2, not a contractor. I've been getting regular paychecks with taxes taken out all year. The W-2 form itself looks correct except for the withholding boxes being empty. I checked with a coworker and their W-2 shows the withholding amounts correctly, so I think it's just an error with mine specifically.
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