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Nia Harris

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Why not just get the two workers to chip in for gas? I know several carpooling arrangements at my workplace where passengers pay the driver a small amount to cover gas and wear on the vehicle. It's not a tax deduction, but it's a practical solution.

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Mateo Gonzalez

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This is what we do at my warehouse! We have a few reliable employees who don't have transportation, so we created an informal carpool system. Drivers get $5-10 per person per day depending on distance. Not perfect but it helps offset costs without getting into tax complications.

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I work in HR and have dealt with this exact situation before. One thing that might help is proposing a "qualified transportation fringe benefit" program to your employer. Under IRS Code Section 132, employers can provide up to $315 per month (2024 limit) in tax-free transportation benefits to employees. This could cover things like transit passes, parking, or even vanpooling arrangements. If your company set up a formal vanpool program where you're the designated driver, they could potentially reimburse your vehicle costs tax-free up to that monthly limit. The key is making it a formal company program rather than just you driving people around. Your employer would need to document it properly, but it could solve both the tax issue and get you reimbursed. Worth bringing up when you make your business case about retention costs!

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Self-Employed Tax Refund Frozen: Code 810 Holding $34,356 in Posted Credits Since April 15 - Account Shows $10,712 Credit Balance

Filed my taxes and my transcript is showing a refund freeze (code 810) from March 2, 2023. When I look at my transcript details, I'm really concerned about what I'm seeing. According to my account transcript: ANY MINUS SIGN SHOWN BELOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT ACCOUNT BALANCE: -$11,812.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Apr. 18, 2023 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Apr. 18, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$11,812.00 INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED: EXEMPTIONS: 01 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $79,496.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $53,237.00 TAX PER RETURN: $24,644.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $78,996.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $12,987.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2023 PROCESSING DATE Apr. 17, 2023 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20231305 04-17-2023 $24,644.00 76211-451-95111-3 810 Refund freeze 03-02-2023 $0.00 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2023 -$19,598.00 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2023 -$16,958.00 This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data I'm self-employed and I can see that my return was processed on April 17, 2023 (cycle 20231305), but I'm still stuck with this freeze code 810 from March 2. My account shows two credits posted to my account - one for -$19,598.00 and another for -$16,958.00 both from April 15, 2023, but nothing is moving forward. I can clearly see the credits in my account, but I can't access them because of this freeze. It's been over two weeks since processing, and I'm really getting worried since these are significant amounts. I need this money for my business operations. Anyone know what this refund freeze (code 810) means or how long these freezes typically last? Has anyone experienced this before and can tell me what to expect? Will they eventually release the funds or do I need to contact someone? Really getting anxious since I can see the credits are there but can't access them.

Liv Park

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Did u verify ur identity on id.me? That's usually step 1 for these freezes

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JaylinCharles

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yea did that right away still nothing

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Melissa Lin

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Code 810 freezes are frustrating but usually resolve within 9-16 weeks from the freeze date. Since yours was placed March 2nd, you're getting close to that timeframe. The good news is your transcript shows no math errors or adjustments - just the freeze preventing release of your $10,712 refund. With self-employment income that high and such a large refund, they're likely doing income verification or checking for potential fraud patterns. The fact that you already completed ID.me verification is good, but sometimes they need additional documentation. I'd recommend calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service number mentioned above, but also try calling the regular IRS line early morning (7-8am) for better chances of getting through. Ask specifically about timeline for code 810 resolution and if they need any additional docs from you. Keep checking your transcript weekly - when it updates you'll see a code 846 (refund issued) with your direct deposit date. Hang in there, the money is definitely there waiting for you!

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Elin Robinson

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My brother was actually stationed at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station as an engineer for 14 months back in 2019-2020. He said the tax situation was handled by their employer (a contractor for the national science foundation) and they just used their permanent US address for tax purposes. He never had to select Antarctica as a country code for anything. The whole system is set up to handle the unique situation of Americans working in a place with no actual government. The funniest part was that he was there during the first COVID lockdowns and said it was the only place on Earth that remained completely COVID-free (since no one could come or go during the winter season). Talk about extreme social distancing!

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This is such a fascinating thread! I had no idea there were so many people with actual Antarctica work experience. Reading about your brother's experience at the South Pole Station is incredible - I can't even imagine being that isolated, especially during COVID when the rest of the world was in lockdown. It's really interesting how the tax system handles these unique situations where Americans are working in places that technically don't belong to any country. The fact that they just use their permanent US address makes total sense from a practical standpoint. Thanks for sharing that story!

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Does anyone know if there are exceptions to these rules? I'm military and we've rented our house out during deployments. Not sure if the IRS treats military situations differently with the home sale exclusion.

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Yara Sayegh

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Yes! Military members get special exceptions. If you're on "qualified official extended duty" (basically stationed at least 50 miles from your home or living in government housing), you can suspend the 5-year test period for up to 10 years. So all those deployment rental periods shouldn't count against you!

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Ethan Scott

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Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread - it's been really helpful! I'm in a similar situation to the original poster and was getting confused by the IRS examples too. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like the key is whether you establish the property as your primary residence BEFORE renting it out. The IRS basically rewards you for using it as your actual home first, rather than treating it as an investment property from day one. For @Amara Okafor - your situation sounds like you should qualify for the full exclusion since you lived in it for 18 months first before renting it out, and you're back living in it now. The rental period in the middle shouldn't hurt you based on what others are explaining here. One thing I'm still wondering about though - does it matter HOW LONG the rental period was? Like if someone lived in their house for 2 years, then rented it for 10 years, then moved back in for a few months before selling, would they still get the full exclusion as long as they meet the 2-out-of-5 year test at the time of sale?

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Paolo Moretti

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Honestly this whole MTM vs non-MTM thing is why I switched to just having everything in a non-MTM account. Yeah I lose some tax advantages for frequent trading but the simplicity is worth it. No more worrying about transfers between accounts or what counts as trading vs investing.

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Amina Diop

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But you're potentially leaving a lot of money on the table. MTM status allows you to deduct all your trading expenses and ignore wash sale rules. If you're an active trader, that can save you tens of thousands in taxes each year.

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Paolo Romano

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This is a great discussion! I'm in a similar situation but with options instead of stocks. I have some TSLA calls that I bought in my MTM account about 6 weeks ago, and I'm thinking about transferring them to my non-MTM account since I want to hold them longer term now. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like I'd have to recognize any gains on the transfer date even though they're still unrealized. That's actually helpful to know because these calls are up about 60% right now, so I need to factor that tax hit into my decision. Does anyone know if the same "deemed disposition" rules apply to options transfers, or are there any special considerations for derivatives? I don't want to accidentally trigger a bigger tax bill than I'm expecting.

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