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Omar Farouk

What can I claim as work expenses for driving employees in my personal vehicle?

So I work as a Site Manager for a third-party staffing company, and I'm trying to figure out what I can legitimately claim as work expenses on my taxes. I've always claimed mileage for driving to the bank daily for company deposits—about 6 miles round trip each day—and I've never had issues with that. Here's my new situation: part of my job is making sure we have enough reliable workers on site, which has gotten really difficult lately (nobody wants to do manual labor anymore!). Two of my best workers don't have transportation right now. I've been picking one up on my way to work and driving the other one home after my shift. This adds about 100 extra miles to my day and takes around 2 hours of what would normally be my working time. My company doesn't reimburse me for any of this extra driving. I'm using my personal car, paying for gas, maintenance, everything. Can I claim these extra miles as a work expense on my taxes? It's directly related to making sure we have workers on site, which is a key part of my job. I wouldn't be doing this driving if it wasn't for work.

Unfortunately, commuting miles (including picking up coworkers on your way to work) are generally not deductible as a business expense. The IRS considers commuting to be a personal expense, even if you're helping out colleagues. For the bank deposits, if your employer requires you to go to the bank during work hours or as a separate trip from your normal commute, those miles would typically be deductible. That seems to be what you're doing, so you're on the right track there. However, for the employee transportation, since you're an employee yourself (not self-employed), these types of unreimbursed employee business expenses are no longer deductible on federal returns following the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. Before 2018, you could potentially claim these as miscellaneous itemized deductions, but that's no longer an option. Your best approach would be to talk to your employer about either: 1. Getting reimbursed directly for these miles 2. Seeing if the company can arrange alternative transportation for these workers

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Thanks for the quick response! That's disappointing to hear about the commuting miles not being deductible, even though this feels different than a normal commute since I'm essentially providing a work service. Just to clarify about the bank deposits - I'm driving from our work site to the bank and back to the work site during my work day. So those miles are still deductible, right? Also, is there any way to frame the employee transportation as a business necessity since our staffing levels would drop without it?

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Yes, the bank deposit miles are definitely deductible since you're traveling from your workplace to the bank and back during your workday. That's considered business travel, not commuting. As for the employee transportation, while it may indeed be a business necessity from a practical standpoint, the tax code simply doesn't allow employees to deduct these expenses anymore. Some states still allow these deductions on state returns, so check your state's tax rules. Another option might be to see if your employer would be willing to add a transportation stipend to your compensation, which would at least help offset your costs, even though it would be taxable income.

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Does this actually work for employees though? I thought most of these tools were designed for self-employed people. I drive my personal car for work stuff all the time (delivering documents between offices) and my company only reimburses a fraction of what it costs me.

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I'm skeptical... how does it determine what's deductible vs non-deductible? Does it just apply the general IRS rules or does it actually look at your specific situation? Because the IRS rules seem pretty clear that employees can't deduct unreimbursed expenses anymore.

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It definitely works for employees - that's my situation too. The tool specifically asks if you're an employee or self-employed to apply the correct rules. For employees, it focuses on identifying which expenses you should be requesting reimbursement for from your employer and which ones you might be able to deduct on state returns. For your specific question about how it determines deductibility, it applies both general IRS rules and asks detailed questions about your specific situation. It looks at factors like whether your employer has an accountable reimbursement plan, whether you're in a specialized profession with different rules, and your state's tax laws which sometimes still allow deductions that the federal return doesn't.

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I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and I'm actually really impressed. I was in a similar situation - driving between multiple work sites in my personal vehicle without full reimbursement. The system flagged that while I couldn't deduct these expenses on my federal return, my state (California) still allows unreimbursed employee expense deductions. I had no idea! It also suggested I talk to my employer about setting up an accountable plan for reimbursement and provided a template letter to send to HR. The documentation feature really helped too - it organized all my mileage logs and categorized which drives were deductible where. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with complicated work expenses.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - managed a warehouse and was driving workers around because we were desperate for reliable staff. When I tried calling the IRS to get a straight answer about deducting these expenses, I spent HOURS on hold and never got through. I finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and got connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. The agent confirmed what others are saying - those miles for transporting workers aren't deductible as an employee, but they did tell me about a specific exception that applied to my bank deposit situation that actually increased what I could claim. The service saved me from taking a risky deduction that might have triggered an audit, while also ensuring I got every legitimate deduction I was entitled to.

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I call BS on this. Nobody gets through to the IRS in 20 minutes, even with some magical service. I've tried calling dozens of times this year with tax questions and the shortest wait was 1.5 hours. Most times I just got the "we're too busy, call back later" message and they hung up on me.

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Just wanted to follow up about my Claimyr skepticism. I decided to try it despite my doubts, and I honestly can't believe how well it worked. Got connected to an IRS representative in about 25 minutes when I'd previously wasted entire afternoons trying. The IRS agent confirmed everything about the work expense situation but also told me about a special form I could have my employer fill out that would make these transportation costs part of a qualified transportation fringe benefit program. This could potentially save both me and my company money compared to the current arrangement. Definitely changed my mind about both the service and the possibility of finding solutions to this transportation expense issue. Sometimes it really helps to talk to an actual IRS person rather than just reading online.

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Have you considered asking your employer to reimburse these costs? At my company, we had a similar situation where managers were driving to pick up employees, and they implemented a mileage reimbursement program at the standard IRS rate (currently 67 cents per mile). Since it's legitimately helping the business, they saw it as a justified expense. If your employer reimburses you, then you don't have to worry about deductions at all. The reimbursement would be tax-free to you, and the company gets to deduct it as a business expense. Win-win.

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I actually tried that route first, but my company has a strict policy against reimbursing anything beyond required work travel (like between job sites). They consider the employee transportation as "optional" even though our staffing would collapse without it. Is there any specific language or business case I could make to them that might help? Like could I frame it as a retention cost that's cheaper than constant rehiring?

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Framing it as a retention and productivity issue is exactly the right approach. Calculate how much it would cost them to replace these workers (recruiting, training, lost productivity) compared to reimbursing your mileage. Another angle is to point out that if these employees can't get to work, the company loses their labor entirely. So paying $67 per 100 miles (about $67/day in your case) is likely much cheaper than losing two productive workers or having to provide company-paid transportation like a shuttle service. Some companies also offer transportation stipends that are added to paychecks. While this would be taxable income to you, it's still better than nothing.

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Why not just get the two workers to chip in for gas? I know several carpooling arrangements at my workplace where passengers pay the driver a small amount to cover gas and wear on the vehicle. It's not a tax deduction, but it's a practical solution.

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This is what we do at my warehouse! We have a few reliable employees who don't have transportation, so we created an informal carpool system. Drivers get $5-10 per person per day depending on distance. Not perfect but it helps offset costs without getting into tax complications.

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I work in HR and have dealt with this exact situation before. One thing that might help is proposing a "qualified transportation fringe benefit" program to your employer. Under IRS Code Section 132, employers can provide up to $315 per month (2024 limit) in tax-free transportation benefits to employees. This could cover things like transit passes, parking, or even vanpooling arrangements. If your company set up a formal vanpool program where you're the designated driver, they could potentially reimburse your vehicle costs tax-free up to that monthly limit. The key is making it a formal company program rather than just you driving people around. Your employer would need to document it properly, but it could solve both the tax issue and get you reimbursed. Worth bringing up when you make your business case about retention costs!

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