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Has anyone tried OnPay? My brother uses it for his contracting business and says it's cheaper than Gusto but still does everything automatically. I'm looking at options for my pet grooming shop with 5 employees.
Do they handle multi-state employees? I have people working remotely from different states now and it's becoming a nightmare with my current system.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone using it long-term. Does it handle tip reporting well? That's something we need to manage for our groomers. OnPay does handle multi-state employees really well according to their website. My brother mentioned they actually specialize in that since they work with a lot of construction companies that cross state lines. You can apparently set up unlimited state tax accounts without extra fees.
Just wanna say, as someone who tried to DIY payroll for a year with spreadsheets, PLEASE use actual payroll software regardless of which one you pick!!! I messed up our quarterly filings so badly we ended up with $2300 in penalties and had to hire a tax pro to fix everything. The money you spend on proper software is worth every penny.
Oh man, I feel this comment in my SOUL. Did the same thing with my first business and ended up with a similar mess. Tax agencies have zero sense of humor about payroll mistakes.
That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid! I've been doing contract-only up until now, but as we're growing I'm bringing on more permanent staff. Did you end up with a software solution you liked after your spreadsheet disaster?
One thing no one has mentioned yet is the Backdoor Roth IRA contribution method for people who earn too much to directly contribute to a Roth IRA. If your income is above the Roth IRA limits ($161,000 for single filers and $240,000 for married filing jointly in 2025), you can still contribute to a Roth IRA through the backdoor method: 1. Contribute to a Traditional IRA (non-deductible) 2. Convert that Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA The conversion might trigger taxes if you have existing pre-tax money in any Traditional IRA accounts due to the pro-rata rule. But if you don't, it's a great way to still get money into a Roth IRA.
Isn't the backdoor Roth thing a loophole that Congress keeps threatening to close? I was thinking about doing this but I'm worried they'll change the rules and I'll get stuck with taxes or penalties.
It's not technically a loophole - it's a completely legal strategy that's been explicitly acknowledged by the IRS. Congress has discussed limiting it in various tax proposals, but so far it remains unchanged in 2025. Even if they did change the rules going forward, it would be very unlikely to affect conversions you've already done. Typically tax changes aren't retroactive in that way. If you qualify for a backdoor Roth contribution based on your income, it's still a valid strategy to consider. Just make sure you understand the pro-rata rule if you have existing Traditional IRA balances.
Don't forget that there are income limits for contributing to a Roth IRA directly! For 2025, if you're single and your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) is above $146,000, your contribution limit starts to phase out. Above $161,000, you can't contribute at all. For married filing jointly, the phase-out range is $230,000-$240,000. This is what confused me at first about Roth IRAs - I thought the already-taxed part meant anyone could contribute, but there are still income restrictions.
Yeah but if your income is too high you can just do the backdoor Roth like someone mentioned above. I've been doing it for years since my income is above the limit. My accountant says its totally legit.
Here's what I learned after dealing with this exact issue: SBTPG (Santa Barbara Tax Products Group) is Intuit/TurboTax's bank partner. When you choose to pay TurboTax fees from your refund, they basically set up a temporary bank account with SBTPG, your refund goes there first, they take their cut, then send the rest to you. The fee breakdown is usually: - Your TurboTax package fee (sounds like Premium was $89) - Refund processing fee ($39-$45 depending on options) - Sometimes a state refund processing fee if you also paid state taxes For future reference, if you pay TurboTax directly when filing (with a credit card), your full refund comes straight from the IRS to your bank account with no middleman and no extra fees.
Do other tax filing services do this too? Or is this just a TurboTax thing? I'm trying to decide which service to use next year.
Most of the major tax filing services do something similar if you choose to pay your filing fees from your refund. H&R Block, TaxAct, and TaxSlayer all use a similar bank transfer system and charge an additional fee ($35-$45 range). The only way to avoid these fees completely is to pay for the tax software upfront when you file. Some completely free options like FreeTaxUSA charge much less for their premium versions ($15-$20), so even paying upfront is more affordable than those refund transfer fees. Credit Karma Tax (now called Cash App Taxes) is completely free for federal and state, but it doesn't offer the option to pay from your refund since there's no fee to begin with.
Whaaaat? TurboTax charges me extra to take their money from MY refund?? That's insane! I've been using them for years and always picked that option without realizing there was an additional fee. So lemme get this straight: I pay $89 for Premium + $39 for them to take the $89 from my refund, so actually $128 total? That's almost 50% more than advertised!!! This feels super shady, like they're hiding the true cost.
Don't forget to also review if you made any energy-efficient improvements to the house during ownership - some of those can be included in your basis calculation! We added solar panels, better insulation, and energy-efficient windows over the years we owned our home, and those all counted toward increasing our basis (which reduces the taxable gain). When we sold our primary residence, I created a detailed spreadsheet of all improvements with approximate dates and costs. The IRS accepted it without requiring additional documentation, though I did have photos of before/after for most projects just in case.
That's great advice! We did replace all the windows with energy-efficient ones about 10 years ago, and the roof was replaced with better insulation. Would normal home maintenance like painting or fixing broken things count too? Or just improvements that increase the home's value?
You can only include capital improvements that add value to your home, prolong its useful life, or adapt it to new uses. The energy-efficient windows and better insulation definitely count! However, regular maintenance like painting, fixing leaks, or general repairs don't count since they just maintain the home's condition rather than improving it. Keep in mind that some projects have elements of both - for example, if you replaced a broken water heater with a standard new one, that's maintenance. But if you upgraded to a high-efficiency model that added value beyond just fixing what was broken, the difference in cost could be considered an improvement.
Doesn't this all depend on how the original tax return was filed? Did you actually report the home sale on the 2023 return in the first place? If not, that might be why the IRS is questioning it. When I sold my primary residence, I reported it on Form 8949 with code "H" to show it was my primary residence and excluded under Section 121, then carried that to Schedule D. If you just didn't report the sale at all (thinking you didn't need to because of the exclusion), that might be your problem.
This is exactly what happened to me! I didn't report the sale at all because I knew I qualified for the exclusion. Then got a letter from the IRS saying I owed taxes on the full amount. Once I filed an amended return properly showing the sale and applying the exclusion, everything was resolved.
Omg I think that's exactly what happened. My mom used one of those tax software programs and I don't think she ever entered anything about the house sale because she assumed she wouldn't owe taxes on it. So the IRS probably just got the 1099-S reporting the sale proceeds with no corresponding explanation on her return. This makes so much sense now!
Vincent Bimbach
Don't forget to check if any portion of either HOA fee goes toward things that should be capitalized rather than deducted immediately! For example, if part of your fees went toward a new roof for the building or major renovations, those portions might need to be depreciated over the useful life of the improvement rather than deducted fully in the current year.
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Brooklyn Knight
ā¢That's a good point I hadn't considered. How would I know which parts of the fees might need to be capitalized? The HOA sends financial statements but they don't break down exactly how every dollar is spent.
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Vincent Bimbach
ā¢You should request the detailed financial statements from your HOA, which they're usually required to provide to owners. Look for line items labeled as "reserves," "capital improvements," or "replacement funds." These are the portions that might need to be capitalized. If your HOA isn't transparent about this, you could reasonably estimate based on your monthly statements and any announcements about major projects. For example, if they announced a $100,000 roof replacement and there are 50 units, you might allocate $2,000 of your annual fees toward a capital expense that would be depreciated over the roof's useful life (typically 27.5 years for residential rental property) rather than deducted immediately.
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Kelsey Chin
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting these HOA fees for rental properties? I'm trying to figure out where exactly to enter the community fees vs regular HOA fees in their system.
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Norah Quay
ā¢In TurboTax, when you get to the rental property section, there's an "Expenses" category. Look for "Homeowner Association Dues" as a specific line item - that's where you can put both types of fees combined. If you want to separate them, you can use the "Other Expenses" category and create two separate line items.
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