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Just be careful about doing this too often. My cousin was doing something similar and his bank eventually flagged his account for suspicious activity. They thought he was running an unlicensed check cashing business. Nothing major happened, but he had to explain himself to the bank and it was a hassle.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Do you know approximately how many checks he was cashing before the bank said something? I'm only planning to do this occasionally when my friend is really in a bind for cash.
He was doing it about 3-4 times a month for several friends, and the bank noticed the pattern after about 6 months. The amounts were also larger, usually between $500-1000 each time. If you're just doing it occasionally for one friend with smaller amounts like $210, you're probably not going to trigger any red flags. Just keep it infrequent and you should be fine. Banks are mainly looking for patterns that suggest an unauthorized business, not one-off favors for a friend.
Another option is to have your friend open an account at your bank. My credit union gives me access to the first $500 of any check immediately, and the rest clears in 1-2 days max. Much better than dealing with this tax confusion.
Not all banks have the same policies though. Some online banks are great about quick funds availability while others are terrible. Probably depends on your account history and credit score too.
5 Just want to add that there's another consideration here: Even if you were eligible for the AOTC (which you're not for grad school), there are income limitations. For 2024, the AOTC begins to phase out at $80,000 modified AGI for single filers ($160,000 for married filing jointly) and completely phases out at $90,000 ($180,000 for MFJ). The Lifetime Learning Credit also has income limitations but they're a bit higher. It begins to phase out at $80,000 for single filers ($160,000 for MFJ) and completely phases out at $90,000 ($180,000 for MFJ). Make sure you're under these thresholds before counting on either credit!
1 Thank you for mentioning the income limits! I forgot to include that in my original post, but thankfully I'm well under those thresholds as a grad student. My stipend and part-time work put me around $35,000 for the year, so I should be eligible for the full Lifetime Learning Credit amount. Do you know if qualified expenses for LLC include the same things as AOTC? Like textbooks, supplies, etc., or is it more limited?
5 The Lifetime Learning Credit is a bit more restrictive on qualified expenses compared to the AOTC. For the LLC, qualified expenses generally include tuition and fees required for enrollment. AOTC is more generous and explicitly includes course-related books, supplies, and equipment that aren't necessarily paid to the educational institution. For the LLC, these additional expenses typically only count if they're paid directly to the school as a condition of enrollment. So if you bought textbooks from the campus bookstore or Amazon, those would likely qualify under AOTC but not LLC. However, if your course fees include a required materials fee paid to the school, that would count for LLC.
14 Has anyone had experience with claiming both credits in the same tax year but for different students? I'm paying for both my grad school (me) and my daughter's first year of college. Can I claim LLC for myself and AOTC for her?
22 Yes, you absolutely can claim different education credits for different eligible students in the same tax year. You could claim the Lifetime Learning Credit for your graduate expenses and the AOTC for your daughter's undergraduate expenses on the same tax return. Just make sure you fill out a separate Form 8863 for each student and credit. The main restriction is that you can't claim both credits for the same student in the same tax year.
One important thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet: liability protection. The whole point of an LLC is to protect your personal assets if something goes wrong with the business. If you combine medical courier work (which involves vehicles, time sensitivity, and possibly valuable/sensitive items) with game development in one LLC, a problem in one area could potentially expose the assets of the entire business. For example, if you get in an accident while doing courier work and get sued, your game development assets (expensive computers, software licenses, etc.) could be at risk since they're part of the same business entity. Something to think about beyond just the tax implications.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered at all. So would it be better to have two separate LLCs in that case? Would that substantially increase my paperwork/costs?
Yes, from a liability protection standpoint, two separate LLCs would offer better protection. If something happens in your courier business, the game development assets would be sheltered in the separate LLC. It does increase some paperwork and costs. You'd pay two state filing fees (usually $50-$150 per LLC depending on your state), potentially two annual report fees, and would need to maintain separate books, bank accounts, and records for each entity. If you're a single-member LLC filing as a pass-through entity, the tax filing isn't substantially more complicated - you'd just have two Schedule Cs instead of one. A middle ground some people choose is starting with one LLC, then separating into two once the second business (game development) actually starts generating some revenue or when the assets become valuable enough to justify the extra protection.
Just my two cents, but I've been running a multi-focus LLC for years (web design + online courses). The biggest practical issue isn't really tax related but MARKETING related. When customers look up your business, what will they find? A medical courier service or a game development studio? Having these under one brand/LLC can confuse customers and dilute your marketing efforts. I ended up creating two separate "DBA" names (Doing Business As) under my single LLC. This let me market two distinct brands while keeping the legal/tax structure simplified. Might be something to consider!
One thing nobody's mentioned is that you should create a consistent filing system for due diligence documents. I separate files by year and credit type (EITC, CTC, HOH, etc). For long-term clients, I keep permanent documents (birth certificates, etc.) in a separate section and just reference them each year. Then for annual verification, I mostly use school records since they're dated and show both the child and parent's address. I note in their file that I've verified these documents and when.
That's a great system. Do you have clients sign anything acknowledging that you've reviewed these documents with them? I'm trying to create a good paper trail in case of audits.
Yes, I have clients sign a due diligence checklist that lists all documents I've reviewed and questions I've asked. It includes statements confirming eligibility for each credit they're claiming. I also take notes during the interview process showing any follow-up questions I asked when something seemed unusual or inconsistent. These interview notes have been extremely valuable during IRS reviews to demonstrate I did proper due diligence beyond just collecting documents.
Does anybody else find it crazy that we need to collect all this documentation but the big tax prep chains seem to get away with just asking questions and having the client sign a form? I have friends who work at [popular tax chain] and they almost never collect actual residency documentation. How are they not getting hit with penalties?
They're definitely getting penalties! The IRS has been cracking down on the big chains. One of them was hit with over $2 million in penalties last year for EITC due diligence failures. They just build expected penalties into their business model.
Yara Sayegh
If you're operating as an LLC partnership with payroll tax issues, you need to determine if you're a "responsible person" under IRC Section 6672. The key is whether you had authority over financial decisions, specifically who got paid and when taxes were remitted. Keep in mind that the IRS can go after ANY responsible person for 100% of the trust fund portion of payroll taxes, regardless of ownership percentage. I've seen cases where minority owners got stuck with the entire bill because they were the ones signing checks. Document your role in the business - who had signing authority on bank accounts? Who made payroll decisions? Who communicated with the accountant? Get your operating agreement and any management documentation organized now.
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Sofia Ramirez
ā¢This is really scaring me. I did sign checks but my partner handled the accountant communications. I trusted him to manage that part while I focused on operations. Are you saying I could be on the hook for the entire amount?
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Yara Sayegh
ā¢Unfortunately, yes - having check signing authority is one of the major factors the IRS considers when determining who is a "responsible person" for payroll taxes. The IRS doesn't care about your internal agreements regarding who was supposed to handle what - they look at who had the ability to ensure the taxes were paid. That said, this doesn't mean all hope is lost. You should immediately gather documentation showing your partner's role in financial decisions. Emails, texts, meeting notes - anything showing he was primarily responsible for tax matters. While this won't necessarily eliminate your liability, it might help distribute the burden appropriately between partners.
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NebulaNova
Just to add something that helped me with a similar situation - get a transcript of your business tax account from the IRS immediately. You can request this online through the IRS website or have your tax pro do it. The transcript will show exactly what tax periods the assessment covers, what forms were or weren't filed, and any payments that have been applied. Sometimes the IRS systems don't properly credit payments that were made, especially if there were any changes to your business name, EIN, or address. My restaurant got hit with a $72k bill that turned out to be largely due to payments being applied to the wrong quarters. The transcript was crucial evidence in getting this sorted out.
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Keisha Williams
ā¢This 100%. I spent months arguing with the IRS before getting a transcript that showed they had applied our Q4 payment to the wrong tax year. The notice amounts don't always tell the full story.
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