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Yara Abboud

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Just wanna say that the accountant should pay for this mess if they screwed up! If they submitted incorrect forms or calculations, they should at least help fix it for free or compensate for any penalties. Accountants carry professional liability insurance for exactly this reason. Don't let them off the hook if they made a serious error that's costing your parents $135k!

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PixelPioneer

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Totally agree! But also maybe check if the parents gave the accountant all the correct info in the first place? Sometimes it's not entirely the accountant's fault if they were working with incomplete information.

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As a different perspective, gift tax and life estates are extremely complicated areas of tax law. Many general accountants don't specialize in this area. While the accountant should definitely help fix the issue, they might not have the expertise needed. This is why tax attorneys who specifically deal with estate planning are often better for these complex gift situations.

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This is a really complex situation, and I feel for your parents dealing with such a massive assessment. Based on what you've described, there are definitely red flags with how this was handled. The single 709 form issue you mentioned is huge - when couples elect gift splitting for life estate transfers, each spouse absolutely needs to file their own Form 709 with proper consent elections. This isn't optional. A few immediate steps I'd recommend: 1) Don't wait to respond - CP105 notices typically have 30-day deadlines 2) Get the exact language from the notice about what the IRS thinks was miscalculated 3) Gather all documentation about the original property purchase, current appraisal, and the life estate deed 4) Find out what actuarial factors and interest rates were used in the original calculation Life estate valuations are incredibly technical and use specific IRS tables that change regularly. The $220k increase in property value isn't necessarily the taxable gift amount - it depends on your parents' ages, current interest rates, and whether they properly retained life estate rights. Given the amount involved, I'd strongly suggest getting a second opinion from an estate planning attorney who specializes in gift tax, not just another accountant. This is way too much money to leave to chance, and the original accountant clearly made some serious errors.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with something similar right now - my grandmother transferred property to us through a life estate deed last year, and I'm worried our tax preparer might have made similar mistakes. Quick question - when you mention the actuarial factors and interest rates, are those the Section 7520 rates that the IRS publishes monthly? And do you know if there's a grace period if the accountant used the wrong month's rates when calculating the remainder interest value? Also, totally agree about getting an estate planning attorney. Regular accountants just don't have the specialized knowledge for these complex gift tax situations. The stakes are way too high to mess around with general tax preparers when dealing with life estates and large property transfers.

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Olivia Clark

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Be careful about state taxes too! The federal capital gains rates get all the attention, but most states also tax capital gains as regular income. I got hit with a surprise state tax bill last year after focusing only on federal.

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Not all states though! I moved from California to Washington before selling my stocks and saved thousands in state taxes since Washington doesn't have income tax. Something to consider for anyone planning big sales.

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Olivia Clark

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Good point! Tax planning around state residency can make a huge difference. Just be careful about establishing proper residency before making big sales - states like California are notorious for challenging former residents' moves if they suspect you're just trying to avoid taxes. For anyone who can't change states, remember that some states do offer their own deductions or exclusions for certain types of capital gains. Worth checking your specific state's rules or talking to a tax professional if you're looking at a significant tax bill.

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Fiona Sand

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The good news is that $8,200 in profits isn't a huge amount, so even if you owe taxes, it shouldn't be overwhelming. If these were long-term gains (stocks held over a year), you might qualify for the 0% capital gains rate if your total income is under $47,025 for single filers or $94,050 for married filing jointly in 2024. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're accounting for any trading fees or commissions you paid when buying and selling. These can be added to your cost basis or subtracted from your proceeds, which reduces your taxable gain. Every little bit helps! Also, if you have any losing positions still in your portfolio, you might consider tax-loss harvesting before the end of the year. You can use capital losses to offset your gains dollar-for-dollar, and if you have more losses than gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 against your ordinary income.

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2022 Tax Return Stuck with 810 Freeze Code Since March 10th - IRS Transcript Shows "Return Not Present" Despite Filing

My transcript has been frozen since March 10th, 2023 with code 810 (refund freeze) and I've had absolutely no movement at all. Looking at my 2022 transcript that I pulled on April 5th, 2023 (tracking number 104330040402), everything is showing zeros. I'm at my wit's end with this situation. Let me share exactly what my transcript shows: ``` Internal Revenue Service United States Department of the Treasury This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data Request Date: 04-05-2023 Response Date: 04-05-2023 Tracking Number: 104330040402 Account Transcript FORM NUMBER: 1040 TAX PERIOD: Dec. 31. 2022 TAXPAYER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER: [redacted] ANY MINUS SIGN SHOWN BELOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT ... ACCOUNT BALANCE: 0.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 27, 2023 ACCRUED PENALTY: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 27, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): 0.00 ** INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED ** EXEMPTIONS: 00 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: TAXABLE INCOME: TAX PER RETURN: SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT No tax return filed 810 Refund freeze 03-10-2023 $0.00 ``` As you can see, it's showing $0.00 account balance, $0.00 accrued interest, and $0.00 accrued penalty as of March 27, 2023. The system clearly shows "RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT" and "No tax return filed" even though I definitely filed as Single, which is correctly reflected in the filing status section. What's extremely frustrating is that there's not even any AGI or taxable income showing up - all those fields are completely blank. The only transaction showing is code 810 "Refund freeze" dated March 10th, 2023 with $0.00 amount. I'm getting really frustrated with this wait. My transcript has been stuck in this exact same state since early March with no changes whatsoever. The freeze is just sitting there with no explanation or movement. I check the transcript regularly but it's just the same freeze code staring back at me every time. Anyone else dealing with this specific 810 freeze code or know what's going on? Has anyone successfully resolved this situation where it shows "RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT" despite clearly having filed?

GalaxyGlider

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bruh the IRS is so behind these days... still processing 2021 returns and now messing up 2022 smh

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I feel your pain! I've been dealing with a similar 810 freeze since February and it's absolutely maddening. The "RETURN NOT PRESENT" message while knowing you filed is the worst part - makes you question everything. Have you tried requesting a wage and income transcript to see if your W-2/1099 info is showing up correctly in their system? Sometimes the freeze happens when there's a mismatch between what you reported and what employers submitted to the IRS. Also, if you haven't already, try calling the main IRS line (1-800-829-1040) early in the morning around 7am when they open - I've had better luck getting through then. Ask specifically about the 810 freeze and if there's any additional documentation they need from you. Sometimes they can at least tell you what triggered it even if they can't remove it immediately. Hang in there - I know it's frustrating but these do eventually get resolved! šŸ¤ž

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NebulaNova

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Thanks for the advice! I haven't tried pulling the wage and income transcript yet - that's a really good point about checking for mismatches. Did you find any discrepancies when you pulled yours? The early morning call tip is gold too, I've been trying to call during lunch breaks and obviously that's peak time. Will definitely try the 7am approach this week. Did they give you any insight into what specifically triggered your 810 freeze when you called? This waiting game is brutal but good to know others are getting through it eventually! šŸ™

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Refund Status: Multiple 766 Credits and 810 Freeze from March on My Transcript - Will April 16 Credits Process Despite March Freeze?

I filed my taxes and looking at my transcript I'm seeing multiple codes that have me confused. Below is my transcript data that's worrying me: PROCESSING DATE A TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE 150 Tax return filed 20241105 04-01-2024 76211-437-89449-4 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-16-2024 810 Refund freeze 03-08-2024 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 768 Earned income credit 04-16-2024 960 Appointed representative 10-02-2024 This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data I see code 150 showing my tax return was filed with cycle code 20241105 dated 04-01-2024, but there's also a refund freeze code 810 from 03-08-2024 that's concerning me. I'm seeing multiple 766 credits all dated 04-16-2024, along with a 768 EIC (Earned Income Credit) code also dated 04-16-2024. There's also an 806 code for W-2/1099 withholding dated 04-16-2024, and interestingly a 960 code for appointed representative dated 10-02-2024. I pulled this directly from sa.www4.irs.gov and I'm not sure what to make of it. Why would I have a refund freeze from March when I filed in April? And what's with the appointed representative code in October (which hasn't even happened yet)? I don't recall appointing anyone. Can anyone help me understand what all these codes mean for my refund timeline? I'm particularly worried about that 810 freeze code from March. Will these credits (766 and 768) be released with my refund once the freeze is lifted? Is this a typical processing pattern or should I be contacting the IRS about the freeze?

Looks like your getting a decent refund with all those credits! Worth the wait ig šŸ¤‘

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The 810 freeze code from March is likely because the IRS flagged your return for review before you even filed in April - this can happen when they're cross-referencing data or if there are discrepancies they want to verify. Don't panic about the future dates either, the IRS system sometimes uses projected processing cycles. Your multiple 766 credits from April 16th look substantial, so once that freeze lifts you should see a nice refund. The 960 code for appointed representative is concerning though - if you didn't authorize anyone, you might want to call the IRS to verify no one has fraudulently gained access to your account. That could actually be related to why you have the 810 freeze in the first place. I'd suggest checking your online IRS account to see if there are any letters or notices waiting for you that might explain the review. Sometimes they just need you to verify your identity or provide additional documentation.

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Diego Chavez

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This 1099-K threshold confusion is so annoying. From what I understand: - For 2023 tax year, threshold remained at $20k and 200 transactions - For 2024 tax year, the $600 threshold WILL apply - Some companies sent out 1099-Ks at $600 anyway for 2023 The most important thing: even if you get a 1099-K for ticket sales that resulted in a loss, you still need to report it, but you can offset it with your purchase cost. I recommend using tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block that specifically handles these situations. They'll walk you through reporting both the 1099-K income and your original purchase price.

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Does anyone know if CashApp is sending 1099Ks at the $600 threshold for 2023? I sold some stuff to friends but well under $20k.

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Diego Chavez

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From what I've heard, CashApp largely followed the IRS guidance and stuck with the $20,000/200 transaction threshold for 2023. However, some users reported getting 1099-Ks at much lower amounts. It seems to vary by platform - some companies had already updated their systems for the $600 threshold before the IRS announced the delay, and they decided to just go ahead with the lower threshold anyway. If you're worried, you can contact CashApp support directly to ask about their specific policy for 2023 tax forms.

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Sean O'Brien

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Quick clarification for everyone confused about the 1099-K threshold: The American Rescue Plan originally lowered the reporting threshold to $600 starting in 2022, but the IRS has delayed implementation TWICE now: - First delay: 2022 tax year (announced Dec 2022) - Second delay: 2023 tax year (announced Nov 2023) Current plan is for the $600 threshold to take effect for 2024 tax year (filing in 2025). But some payment processors and platforms got confused or didn't update their systems, which is why some people are still getting 1099-Ks for amounts over $600 even though they weren't required for 2023.

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Zara Shah

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So will the $600 threshold definitely happen for 2024 or might they delay it again? I do a little side business selling crafts and I'm trying to plan ahead.

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