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Quick tip about Schedule B that might help: If you're using tax software (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.), you usually don't need to worry about this level of detail. When you enter the 1099-DIV information, the software automatically creates Schedule B if your dividends exceed $1,500. Just input "Vanguard Brokerage Account" and the total from Box 1a, and you're good to go. The software handles all the form creation and filing for you. I've been doing this for years with my Vanguard brokerage account with no issues.
Does this apply to FreeTaxUSA too? I switched from TurboTax this year to save money, but I'm worried the cheaper software might not handle these details correctly.
Yes, FreeTaxUSA handles Schedule B the same way. I actually switched to FreeTaxUSA two years ago after using TurboTax for over a decade. Their interface for entering 1099-DIV information is straightforward - you just enter "Vanguard Brokerage Account" as the payer name and the total amount from Box 1a. The software will automatically generate Schedule B if you're over the $1,500 threshold. FreeTaxUSA is actually quite robust for most tax situations, especially for investments. The only real difference I've noticed is that the interface is a bit more streamlined, but all the functionality is there.
Just wanted to add that this is a common "issue" with most brokerage accounts, not just Vanguard. My Fidelity and Schwab accounts both provide consolidated 1099-DIVs for brokerage accounts. It's actually a feature, not a problem - imagine if you had 25+ holdings and had to list each one separately on Schedule B! The IRS only cares that the total matches what the brokerage reported. They don't need or want an itemized list of every single mutual fund or stock that paid you dividends within a single brokerage account.
That makes sense! My sister has about 8 different funds, so I can see how that would get unwieldy. Sounds like this is standard practice and not something unique to Vanguard. Appreciate everyone's helpful responses - this has been really educational for both of us!
Exactly! And if your sister has multiple brokerage accounts, she would list each brokerage separately on Schedule B. For example, if she has Vanguard and Fidelity, she would have two entries - one for each brokerage with their respective totals from Box 1a of each 1099-DIV. The IRS matches these totals with what each institution reports, not the individual holdings within each account.
We're actually using a combination of solutions that works well for us. For document storage and management, we use ShareFile with a standardized folder structure for each client. For workpaper preparation and review, we use CCH Engagement. The key for us wasn't really the software itself, but creating standardized processes and enforcing them. We have templates for every type of return with standard workpapers already set up. Each workpaper is numbered according to the tax form line item it supports (for example, Schedule C workpapers all start with C-). Our review process requires reviewers to sign off on each workpaper electronically, which has dramatically improved our quality control.
How did you handle the transition to CCH Engagement? Did you have to convert a lot of existing documents? We're currently using a hodgepodge of Excel workpapers and I'm worried about the time investment to switch.
The transition did take significant effort, but we did it gradually over about a year. We didn't try to convert historical workpapers - instead, we started using the new system with new clients first, then gradually transitioned existing clients as they came in for the next tax season. We created a core set of templates and standard workpapers before we rolled it out to the team. This upfront investment paid off tremendously as it ensured consistency from the beginning. We did need training from CCH to get everyone up to speed, but that was worth the investment.
Has anyone tried Canopy for workpaper management? We're considering it but not sure if it's worth the investment.
We used Canopy for about a year but ultimately switched to SmartVault. Canopy has some nice features for client communication and task management, but we found the document management aspects to be less robust than we needed for complex business returns. The interface is clean and user-friendly, but it was missing some advanced referencing features that we wanted. If your practice is primarily individual returns with some simple business returns, it might be sufficient. For a practice with complex business clients, you might find it limiting.
Don't forget to check if you have any earnings that accumulated between your original contributions and the recharacterization/conversion. Those earnings ARE taxable in the year of conversion (2023 for you). The 1099-R total might be slightly higher than your contribution amounts because of those earnings. For example, if you contributed $6,000 but the 1099-R shows $6,150, that extra $150 would be taxable earnings. Since both recharacterizations happened in 2023, all taxable earnings would be reported on your 2023 return.
That's a good point! I did notice the 1099-R amounts were slightly higher than my contribution amounts. So if I understand correctly, I need to: 1. File Form 8606 for 2022 to establish non-deductible basis 2. On my 2023 return, report both 1099-Rs 3. Make sure Form 8606 for 2023 shows my total non-deductible basis 4. Pay tax only on the earnings portion (the difference between contributions and distribution amounts) Does that sound right?
That's exactly right! You've got the process down perfectly. Just to emphasize: make sure your non-deductible basis on Form 8606 for 2023 includes BOTH years' contribution amounts, not just 2023's contribution. The only taxable portion should be those earnings (the difference between your total contributions and the total distribution amounts on the 1099-Rs). TurboTax should calculate this correctly once you have all the non-deductible basis entered properly.
Just wanted to add one more point of confusion to watch for - the recharacterization process itself doesn't generate a 1099-R. The 1099-Rs you received are for the conversion from Traditional to Roth that happened after the recharacterization. Some tax software gets confused when you enter code '2' because it thinks you're taking a qualified distribution rather than doing a conversion. Double-check that TurboTax is treating these as conversions, not distributions.
This is such an important detail! I got caught by this exact issue with H&R Block software. It kept trying to treat my recharacterization/conversion as a distribution I was cashing out. I had to go through some special screens to mark it properly as a conversion.
OP I'm in the exact same boat! I owed $2,700 this year after always getting refunds, and it was because of my side gig photography business. What tax software are you using? I found TurboTax Self-Employed was pretty good at walking me through all the possible deductions for my business, even stuff I hadn't thought of.
For the stock sale, hope you held them for more than a year! Long-term capital gains are taxed at a lower rate (0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your income) than short-term gains, which are taxed as ordinary income. That could be part of why your tax bill is high if they were short-term.
Is there any way to offset capital gains? I'm going to sell some stocks this year that will give me a big gain and I'm dreading the tax hit.
Yes, you can offset capital gains with capital losses. If you have investments that have gone down in value, selling them in the same tax year will create capital losses that directly offset your gains. You can also contribute to tax-advantaged accounts like 401(k)s or traditional IRAs to lower your overall taxable income, which can help reduce the impact of the capital gains. For example, if contributing more to your 401(k) drops you into a lower tax bracket, your capital gains rate might also decrease.
Haley Stokes
One important thing to consider that nobody has mentioned yet: when you're selling those ABC shares, think about WHICH specific shares you're selling. If you acquired them at different times/prices, you can choose which tax lots to sell to maximize your tax benefits. Most brokerages now let you specify which lots you want to sell rather than using the default FIFO (first in, first out) method. This could make a significant difference in your total realized losses depending on your specific situation.
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Lourdes Fox
β’That's a great point I hadn't considered. I acquired the shares in three different grants over about 2 years, with different purchase prices. Would I need to specifically tell my broker which lots to sell, or is that something I can handle when I file my taxes?
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Haley Stokes
β’You need to specify which lots you want to sell at the time of the sale - you can't decide later when filing taxes. Most online brokerages have this option during the trade execution process, usually called "tax lot selection" or something similar. If your broker's online platform doesn't make this obvious, call their customer service before placing the trade. Once the trade settles, you typically can't change which lots were sold, so it's important to get this right the first time. This kind of specific lot identification can make a substantial difference in your tax situation.
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Asher Levin
Have you considered not selling all at once? Maybe do a portion this year and more next year? Especially with that ABC stock, since you're thinking it could recover somewhat. That way you spread out the tax benefits over multiple years and don't have to realize all those losses if you still believe in the company long-term. Just a thought.
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Serene Snow
β’This is good advice. You can offset up to $3k of ordinary income per year with capital losses beyond what you use to offset gains. So if OP doesn't need to offset all $87k in gains this year, they could realize some losses now and carry the rest forward.
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