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For anyone who's curious about Glacier Tax Prep that OP mentioned - I used it last year and would NOT recommend it for tax residents filing jointly. It's designed specifically for nonresident aliens (F-1/J-1 visa holders in their first 5 years). When I tried to use it as a resident alien filing jointly with my spouse, it was super limited. Couldn't handle our HSA contributions properly, our investment income was a mess, and it didn't have options for many common tax credits and deductions available to residents. Stick with regular tax software like FreeTaxUSA/TurboTax and follow the advice above about entering the 1042-S as "other income" if you're a tax resident. Glacier is really only useful if you're a nonresident for tax purposes.
Do you have any experience with SprinTax? My international student office recommends either Glacier or SprinTax, but I'm also a tax resident now and need to file jointly with my spouse.
I haven't personally used SprinTax, but from what I've heard from colleagues, it's similar to Glacier in that it's primarily designed for nonresident aliens. While it might be slightly better at handling some resident situations, it still has limitations for joint filing and more complex tax situations that residents encounter. If you're officially a tax resident and filing jointly, you're generally better off using mainstream tax software that's designed for US citizens/residents. You'll have full access to all the tax benefits and forms that apply to residents.
Has anyone actually gotten FreeTaxUSA to correctly calculate the tax credit for income tax withheld on 1042-S? I tried reporting it as suggested here but my refund calculation seems off.
Make sure you're entering the withholding in the Federal Payments section specifically as "Other Federal Withholding" rather than with your W-2 withholding. I made that mistake last year and had to file an amendment because FreeTaxUSA didn't apply the credit properly.
Are both loans actually mortgages? Or is one a home equity line of credit? Also, is the employer loan being reported as some kind of benefit on your W-2? Sometimes employer loans come with benefits that might be taxable which could offset the interest deduction.
Both are definitely mortgages - we used them simultaneously to purchase the home (one conventional loan and one through the employer's first-time homebuyer assistance program). The employer loan doesn't show up anywhere on the W-2, it's a completely separate arrangement with its own 1098. I'm wondering if it's because the employer loan has a much lower interest rate (2.5% compared to 3.25% on the main mortgage), and that's somehow affecting the overall calculation? Could a lower rate on the second mortgage somehow reduce the total benefit?
That's interesting. Even with the lower rate, more interest should still be more deduction. The fact that it's an employer loan makes me think there might be some fringe benefit taxation going on behind the scenes. Check if the interest rate on the employer loan is below market rate. If it is (which 2.5% would likely qualify as), the IRS can consider the difference between your rate and the market rate as taxable income - essentially treating the below-market rate as a benefit from your employer. This "imputed income" might be what's reducing your refund when you add the second 1098.
Has anyone checked if the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) is getting triggered? I had something similar happen where adding more deductions actually increased my AMT liability which offset the benefit. Worth checking that section of your return.
This is a really good point. AMT can definitely cause this kind of counterintuitive result. The software should tell you if AMT is being applied though - there's usually an AMT worksheet or form that appears.
Has anyone had success with using the IP PIN method that was mentioned earlier? I'm having the same error code but I'm worried about mailing my return because I really need my refund soon.
I used the IP PIN option last year when I had this same issue. You can request one through the IRS website, but it takes about 2-3 weeks to arrive by mail. Once you have it though, it bypasses the AGI verification completely. Worked perfect for me!
Another option - if you still have an account with the tax software you used last year, log in and check if they show the "IRS accepted AGI" rather than just what you entered. Sometimes there's a difference. In my case, I thought my AGI was $63,240 based on my return, but when I checked my TaxAct account from last year, they had a note saying "IRS processed AGI: $63,140" - a $100 difference due to some adjustment. Used that number and it worked right away.
19 Be careful about the pro-rata rule! Everyone keeps saying your backdoor Roth conversion isn't taxable, but that's only completely true if you don't have any other pre-tax IRA money anywhere (Traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRAs). If you have other IRA accounts with pre-tax money, the conversion gets taxed proportionally. For example, if you have $95,000 in pre-tax IRA funds and do a $5,000 non-deductible contribution followed by a conversion, about 95% of your conversion would actually be taxable. The IRS looks at all your IRAs together when calculating this (called the pro-rata rule). Form 8606 handles this calculation. This trips up a lot of people and some tax preparers too.
7 This is super important info - I had no idea! If you have existing Traditional IRA money, is there any way to still do a backdoor Roth without triggering this pro-rata rule? I've got about $30k in an old Traditional IRA.
19 Yes, there's a workaround! If your employer's 401(k) plan accepts rollovers from IRAs, you can roll your existing pre-tax IRA funds into your 401(k) before doing the backdoor Roth. Since 401(k)s don't count in the pro-rata calculation, this effectively zeroes out your pre-tax IRA balance. This only works if your 401(k) plan allows for incoming rollovers from IRAs, so you'll need to check with your plan administrator. If this is possible, you could roll the $30k into your 401(k), then do a clean backdoor Roth conversion without pro-rata tax consequences. Timing matters though - you'd need to complete the rollover to the 401(k) before December 31 of the tax year you're doing the conversion.
21 Has anyone successfully gotten the IRS to correct this issue AFTER filing returns where the CPA incorrectly taxed the entire backdoor Roth conversion? I just realized my returns from 2021-2023 all have this same mistake.
4 You can file amended returns (Form 1040-X) for the previous years where this mistake was made. You'll also need to include Form 8606 for each of those years to establish your non-deductible basis. The statute of limitations for amending returns and claiming refunds is generally 3 years from the original filing date, so your 2021-2023 returns should all still be eligible for amendment.
Evelyn Kelly
Don't forget that when you take the Standard Deduction, you CANNOT also itemize deductions on the same return. It's either/or, not both. I learned this after trying to claim both my $12,400 standard deduction AND my mortgage interest and charitable donations. Tax software flagged it as an error. You have to pick whichever gives you the bigger tax break. For most people, the Standard Deduction is higher than their itemized deductions would be, which is why like 90% of taxpayers take the Standard Deduction now.
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Paloma Clark
ā¢There are some exceptions to this though! Even if you take the standard deduction, you can still deduct things like student loan interest, IRA contributions, self-employment taxes, and health insurance premiums if you're self-employed. These are called "above-the-line" deductions and they work differently.
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Evelyn Kelly
ā¢Absolutely right! Those "above-the-line" deductions reduce your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) directly and you can claim them regardless of whether you take the Standard Deduction or itemize. This is why tax terminology is so confusing for beginners - there are "deductions" that aren't affected by the Standard Deduction vs. itemizing choice. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Victoria Brown
Honestly I didn't understand the standard deduction until I actually did my taxes for the first time. TaxAct software asked if I wanted to "itemize" and showed me what items would qualify. My donations were like $600, and I had some small work expenses maybe $1000, and the software straight up told me "these don't add up to more than the standard deduction so you should take the standard deduction." Made the decision super easy.
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Samuel Robinson
ā¢Yeah but tax software can mess this up sometimes. I had a friend who had major medical expenses that would have pushed him over the threshold to itemize, but his software didn't properly explain this to him. Always worth double-checking if you have unusual expenses.
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