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I got behind on taxes for about 4 years while dealing with severe depression. What really helped me was contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service - it's a free, independent organization within the IRS that helps people resolve tax problems. They assigned me an advocate who helped me through the whole process. For the ADHD aspect, bring documentation from your doctor when you speak with tax professionals. While there's no specific program for neurodivergent folks, medical issues (including mental health) can sometimes qualify for penalty abatement under "reasonable cause" if you can show it directly impacted your ability to comply with tax obligations.
I've never heard of the Taxpayer Advocate Service. Do they help with complicated situations involving multiple years and different income sources? Also, do they help negotiate payment plans or is that a separate process?
Yes, they absolutely help with complicated multi-year situations - that's actually their specialty. My case involved W2 income, freelance work, and some investment income across several years. They're particularly helpful when your case has special circumstances or when you've tried to resolve issues through normal IRS channels without success. The advocate can help with the entire process including setting up payment plans and exploring options like Offers in Compromise if you can't pay the full amount. They'll look at your financial situation holistically and recommend the best approach. They can even request holds on collection activities while you're working with them. To contact them, call 1-877-777-4778 or find your local office on the IRS website.
One thing nobody's mentioned is that you might actually be owed refunds for some of those years! I was in a similar boat (5 years unfiled) and when I finally did my taxes, I discovered I was due refunds for 2 of those years because of over-withholding from my W2 job. The catch is you only have 3 years to claim refunds, so some might be gone forever, but it's worth checking. Also look into IRS Free File if your income is under $73,000 - you can file current and some prior year returns for free with guided software.
This is a really good point. My brother thought he'd owe thousands, but ended up getting about $1,500 back because his W2 withholding more than covered what he owed from his side gig. Don't assume you'll owe until you run the numbers!
I went through this last year. Check if your employer did a "gross-up" for the relocation expenses. Mine did, and it confused me at first. A gross-up means they gave you extra money to cover the taxes you'll owe on the relocation benefits. For example, if your actual moving expenses were $10,000, they might have given you $13,000 so that after taxes, you'd have enough to cover the $10,000 in expenses. In TurboTax, you don't need to do anything special other than entering your W-2 correctly. If the relocation expenses were grossed up, your W-2 will already include both the relocation benefits AND the additional money they gave you to cover taxes. Your company's relocation tax report should indicate if they did a gross-up calculation.
Thanks, this is helpful! My relocation paperwork does mention a "tax gross-up" for some of the benefits, but not all of them. So for the ones that weren't grossed-up, I'll end up owing taxes on those out of pocket, right?
That's exactly right. For the benefits that weren't grossed-up, you'll need to pay taxes on that amount out of your own pocket. For example, if you received a $3,000 lump sum that wasn't grossed-up, you might owe roughly $750 in taxes (depending on your tax bracket) that comes out of your pocket. The ones that were grossed-up should be fine - the extra amount your employer added should cover the tax liability for those specific benefits. Just be prepared for your W-2 to look higher than you might expect, since it includes both your regular salary and all these additional taxable benefits.
Has anyone had issues with TurboTax not accepting relocation expenses correctly? Last year I entered my W-2 which included relocation, but TurboTax kept flagging it as "unusually high income" compared to my previous year. I'm worried about using TurboTax again this year for my recent relocation.
I got that same warning last year but just ignored it. TurboTax throws up caution flags for any significant changes year-over-year. As long as your W-2 accurately reflects everything (including the relocation benefits), you're fine to proceed past that warning. It's just an automated check, not an actual problem with your return.
Everyone's giving great advice about the tools, but just to directly answer your question: You should be fine as long as the total between the three returns adds up to 100%. The IRS does check that the total allocation for a policy doesn't exceed 100%, but they understand that people use different tax software. The main thing that would cause problems is if between you, your brother, and your mom, you collectively claim more than 100% of the policy. As long as you've coordinated so that doesn't happen (which it sounds like you did), you should be good.
Thanks, that's reassuring but quick follow-up question - what if my brother ends up not filing at all? Would that mean we only claimed 80% of the policy (my 20% + parents 60%)? Would that cause issues?
If your brother doesn't file at all, that wouldn't necessarily create problems regarding the Premium Tax Credit. The IRS is primarily concerned with making sure no more than 100% of a policy is claimed. Claiming less than 100% might mean some of the credit goes unclaimed, but it's not a compliance issue. However, if your brother was required to file a tax return (based on his income and situation) and received advance premium tax credits, he actually must file a return to reconcile those credits even if he otherwise wouldn't be required to file. Failure to file in this case could result in him being ineligible for advance premium tax credits in future years.
Does anyone know if CashApp Taxes actually generates the Form 8962 Part IV correctly behind the scenes? I've been using TaxAct and it shows the actual form with the allocation percentages, but when I helped my daughter with CashApp I couldn't tell if it was doing it right.
Yes, CashApp Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) does generate Form 8962 correctly including Part IV allocations, even though the user interface doesn't explicitly show this section. I was worried about this too, so I actually downloaded the PDF of my complete return after filing and checked - the allocation was there on the generated 8962.
Just to add another perspective - I was in your exact situation (finished undergrad in 3 years, went straight to grad school). I did a ton of research and found that the AOTC is explicitly tied to pursuing an undergraduate degree. The IRS clarifies this in Publication 970 where it states that once you've completed the requirements for your first 4-year degree, you're no longer eligible. The "first 4 years" language is a bit misleading because it's not actually counting calendar years - it's counting academic years of undergraduate study. So unfortunately, that 4th year doesn't transfer to graduate studies.
Do you have the exact section in Pub 970 that says this? I'm looking at it now and can't find where it specifically says undergraduate only.
It's in the section about AOTC eligibility requirements. The publication states that the credit is available "for the first 4 years of postsecondary education" and then further clarifies that a student who has completed "the first 4 years of postsecondary education before the beginning of the tax year" isn't eligible. The key is in how they define "completed the first 4 years" - there's a part that explains that a student who has already completed an undergraduate degree program is considered to have completed their first 4 years of postsecondary education, regardless of how long it actually took. So by graduating with your bachelor's degree, you've "used up" your AOTC eligibility even though it only took 3 years.
Has anyone actually tried claiming AOTC for grad school after finishing undergrad in 3 years? Would the IRS system automatically flag this or would it only come up in an audit? Asking for... reasons...
Don't do it. The IRS systems are pretty good at catching this now. They get information from your school about what degree program you're in, and universities report whether you're an undergraduate or graduate student on the 1098-T form. It's not worth risking an audit and penalties over this.
Diego Chavez
I think everyone is overreacting to this news. I'm a small business attorney who works with dozens of clients affected by the CTA. Here's the real deal: this enforcement pause is almost certainly temporary. The Treasury Department is likely responding to legal challenges, but once those are resolved, enforcement will resume. My advice to clients remains unchanged: prepare your beneficial ownership information now so you're ready to file when needed. The requirements themselves haven't been eliminated, just the enforcement mechanism. For most legitimate small businesses, the reporting isn't actually that burdensome - it's identifying the beneficial owners (those with 25%+ ownership or substantial control) and providing basic information about them. Don't use this pause as an excuse to ignore your obligations completely, or you might find yourself scrambling when enforcement suddenly resumes.
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NeonNebula
ā¢What about companies formed in 2023? I thought we had different deadlines than older companies. Does this pause affect all businesses the same way?
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Diego Chavez
ā¢Companies formed in 2023 fall under the "existing entities" category, which originally had until January 1, 2025 to file their initial reports. Companies formed in 2024 have 90 days from formation to file. The enforcement pause affects all businesses subject to the CTA equally - regardless of when they were formed. However, it's important to note that the technical legal requirement still exists for all applicable businesses, even though there's no enforcement mechanism currently in place. My recommendation remains to prepare your information so you're ready when enforcement resumes, which it almost certainly will.
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Anastasia Kozlov
Does anyone know if this affects companies that already filed their beneficial ownership information? I submitted mine in January when the requirements first went into effect. Did I waste my time? Should I be worried about the information being in their system now that they're not enforcing the rule?
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Sean Kelly
ā¢You didn't waste your time. If anything, you're ahead of the game. The database still exists and your information is properly recorded. When enforcement resumes (which most experts think it will), you won't have to scramble like everyone else.
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