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Omar Farouk

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16 I'm in the exact same situation and my accountant advised something different than what others are saying here. He told me that since I own more than 2% of the S-Corp, health insurance has to be handled as additional compensation on my W-2, then I deduct it as self-employed health insurance on my personal taxes. He said S-Corps can't use QSEHRA for owners with >2% ownership. Is this right??

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Omar Farouk

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17 Your accountant is correct about the >2% owner treatment. As a more-than-2% S corporation shareholder, you cannot participate in a QSEHRA tax-free. Any health insurance premiums paid or reimbursed by your S-Corp must be included in your W-2 wages. The good news is you can then deduct those premiums on your personal tax return using the self-employed health insurance deduction, which essentially gives you the same tax benefit. Just make sure the arrangement is formally established by the corporation before any reimbursements are made.

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Amara Nwosu

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As someone who's been through this exact scenario, I can confirm what others have mentioned about the >2% shareholder rules. The key thing to remember is that even though the reimbursements have to go through your W-2 as taxable wages, you still get the tax benefit through the self-employed health insurance deduction on Line 16 of Schedule 1. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned - make sure you keep detailed records of the actual premium amounts your spouse's employer deducts from their paychecks. The IRS may want to see that the reimbursements from your S-Corp don't exceed the actual premiums paid. Also, the reimbursement timing matters - you generally need to reimburse in the same tax year the premiums were paid. The formal plan documentation is absolutely critical. I learned this when helping a friend who got audited - the IRS disallowed all their health insurance deductions because they couldn't produce the required corporate resolutions and plan documents, even though they had been reporting everything correctly on their tax returns.

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This is really helpful context about the documentation requirements! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned - if my spouse's premiums are deducted monthly from their paycheck, should I be doing monthly reimbursements from my S-Corp, or can I do it quarterly or even annually as long as it's within the same tax year? Also, do you know if there are any restrictions on reimbursing premiums that were paid before I officially established the health insurance plan with my S-Corp?

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Zainab Ahmed

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The 846 code with a 2/10 date is definitely a good sign! That's your official refund issued date. Since you mentioned having to amend paperwork earlier, I totally understand the extra anxiety - I went through something similar last year when I had to correct my filing status. A few things that might help ease your mind: • The 846 code is one of the most reliable indicators in the whole process • Most banks process IRS direct deposits overnight, so you'll likely see it early morning on 2/10 • Since your transcript already updated for cycle 3, you're past the major processing hurdles • Amended returns can cause delays, but once you see that 846 code, those delays are behind you I'd recommend setting up account alerts with your bank so you get notified the moment it hits. The waiting game is brutal, but you're basically at the finish line now. Keep an eye on your transcript for any new codes, but honestly, once you have that 846 with a date, it's pretty much a done deal!

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The 846 code with 2/10 date is great news! That's your official refund issued date from the IRS. Since you filed on 1/31 and had to amend paperwork (which can definitely add stress), seeing that 846 code means you've cleared all the processing hurdles. Here's what to expect: • Your refund will be released by the IRS on 2/10 • Most banks process IRS deposits overnight, so you'll likely see it early morning on 2/10 • Some banks may hold it 1-2 business days, but many make IRS refunds available immediately • Keep checking your transcript until the money hits - just to be safe I totally get the anxiety after having to amend things! I went through something similar and was constantly second-guessing everything. But once you see that 846 code with a specific date, you're basically home free. The IRS is pretty reliable with those dates once they commit to them. Set up mobile alerts with your bank if you can - there's nothing like getting that notification that your refund has arrived! You're almost there!

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This is really helpful! I'm new to understanding all these transcript codes and was getting overwhelmed trying to figure out what everything means. The 846 code explanation makes so much sense now. I've been checking WMR obsessively but sounds like the transcript is more reliable. Quick question - if the 846 shows 2/10 but it's a weekend, would the deposit still happen or would it get pushed to the next business day?

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Omar Zaki

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This is exactly the kind of strategic thinking that can save thousands in taxes! Based on your timeline, I'd strongly recommend setting your fiscal year to end July 31st. This would capture that May expense and July income in the same tax year, then you can handle the post-October expenses in the following fiscal year. One additional consideration - since you're expecting more income after October, you might want to plan distributions to beneficiaries before your fiscal year ends (July 31st in this scenario) to shift the tax burden to their likely lower individual tax rates. Remember, estates hit the top 37% bracket at just $14,450 of income, while individuals don't reach that rate until much higher income levels. Also, don't forget to consider any state-specific estate tax requirements in addition to federal. Some states have their own rules that might affect your timing decisions. Have you calculated roughly how much taxable income the estate will have? That might help determine the optimal distribution strategy alongside your fiscal year choice.

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Jean Claude

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This is really helpful strategic advice! I'm just getting started with understanding estate taxation as a newcomer to this whole process. The July 31st fiscal year end makes a lot of sense given the timeline you laid out. One question - when you mention planning distributions before the fiscal year ends, does that mean I need to have the actual money transferred to beneficiaries by July 31st? Or is there some flexibility with that 65-day rule that was mentioned earlier in the thread? I want to make sure I understand the timing requirements correctly since this seems like a critical detail for tax planning. Also, regarding calculating the taxable income - should I be looking at gross income or net income after estate expenses when determining how much to potentially distribute?

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Great questions! For the distribution timing, you have two options: either have the actual money transferred to beneficiaries by July 31st (your fiscal year end), OR you can make the distribution within the first 65 days of the next fiscal year (so by October 4th in your case) and elect to treat it as if it was made on the last day of the previous fiscal year. You make this election on Form 1041 when you file. The 65-day rule gives you valuable flexibility - you can see exactly how much income the estate had for the fiscal year, calculate the optimal distribution amount, and still have those extra 65 days to actually get the money to beneficiaries while having it count for the previous tax year. Regarding taxable income calculation - you'll want to look at the estate's distributable net income (DNI), which is essentially the estate's taxable income before the distribution deduction, adjusted for certain items. The estate gets a deduction for amounts distributed to beneficiaries (up to the DNI amount), and the beneficiaries report their share of the income on their personal returns. Estate expenses like executor fees, legal costs, and administrative expenses reduce the taxable income before you calculate distributions. This is definitely complex stuff - consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in estates to make sure you're optimizing everything correctly!

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As someone who just went through estate administration myself, I can't stress enough how important it is to get this fiscal year decision right from the start. You're absolutely on the right track thinking strategically about this. One thing I learned the hard way - document everything meticulously when you make your fiscal year election. Keep records of when each income item was received and when expenses were incurred. The IRS can be very particular about the timing, especially if they ever audit the estate return. Also, since you mentioned expecting more income after October, consider whether any of that income might be recurring (like rental income, dividend payments, etc.). If so, you'll want to factor that into your long-term tax planning strategy beyond just this first fiscal year. Have you considered consulting with a CPA who specializes in estate taxation? Given the complexity of balancing the fiscal year choice with distribution timing and the relatively compressed estate tax brackets, the cost of professional advice often pays for itself in tax savings. Plus, they can help ensure you're not missing any deductions that estates are entitled to claim.

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This is excellent advice about documentation! As someone new to estate administration, I'm finding there are so many details to track. Could you elaborate on what specific documentation you wish you had kept better records of? I'm currently using spreadsheets to track income and expenses by date, but I'm wondering if there's a particular format or level of detail that would be most helpful if the IRS ever has questions about the fiscal year election or timing of distributions. Also, regarding the CPA recommendation - at what point in the process did you decide to bring in professional help? I'm trying to balance doing my due diligence with knowing when I'm in over my head. The estate isn't huge, but the tax implications seem complex enough that professional guidance might be worth the investment.

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Chloe Harris

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I just went through this exact situation this past tax season and wanted to share my experience. Like you, I received several W-2Gs throughout the year but was net negative overall from my casino visits. The most important thing I learned is that the win/loss statement is NOT what determines your tax liability - it's purely supporting documentation. You must report every dollar from your W-2Gs as income, period. The IRS already has copies of those forms, so there's no way around it. Here's what really helped me: I calculated whether itemizing my deductions (including gambling losses) would be more beneficial than taking the standard deduction. In my case, I had mortgage interest and charitable donations that, combined with my gambling losses, pushed me well over the standard deduction threshold. This allowed me to offset my gambling winnings with my losses. However, if you don't have enough other itemized deductions, you could end up in the unfortunate situation of paying taxes on winnings while being unable to deduct your losses. This is why keeping detailed session logs throughout the year is crucial - not just for substantiating your losses, but for making informed decisions about your gambling activity from a tax perspective. My advice: Start keeping meticulous records now for next year, and definitely consult with a tax professional who understands gambling taxes. The rules are more complex than most people realize.

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Chloe Davis

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This is really helpful - thank you for sharing your actual experience! I'm in a similar boat where I have some W-2Gs but am down overall for the year. Your point about calculating whether itemizing makes sense is crucial. I do have a mortgage and make some charitable donations, so it sounds like I should add up all my potential itemized deductions to see if they exceed the standard deduction. If they do, then I can actually benefit from deducting my gambling losses against the W-2G income. One question - when you kept your session logs, did you track every single bet/spin, or just your net win/loss for each casino visit? I'm trying to figure out the right level of detail without making it overly complicated. Also, did your tax professional charge extra for dealing with gambling taxes, or was it part of their normal service? I'm wondering if I need to find someone who specializes in this area.

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Cass Green

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For session logs, I tracked net win/loss per casino visit rather than individual bets - that would be way too detailed and impractical. I recorded the date, casino name, games played (like "slots" or "blackjack"), time spent, and my net result for that session. The IRS isn't expecting you to log every single spin. What matters is having contemporaneous records that show your gambling activity and losses. I used my phone to jot down notes during or right after each visit, then transferred them to a spreadsheet at home. The key is consistency and making entries close to when the gambling actually happened. Regarding tax professionals - most CPAs can handle basic gambling taxes, but if you have complex situations (like professional gambling or issues with prior years), it's worth finding someone with specific experience. My regular CPA handled it as part of normal tax prep, no extra charge, but she did spend extra time walking me through the gambling loss deduction rules since I was new to it. The most important thing is getting your itemized vs standard deduction calculation right - that determines whether you can actually benefit from deducting your losses or if you're stuck paying tax on winnings with no offset.

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Harold Oh

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I went through this exact same confusion when I started gambling more frequently and getting W-2Gs. The biggest misconception I had was thinking the win/loss statement somehow "netted out" my taxes - it doesn't work that way at all. Here's the reality: Every W-2G you received must be reported as income on your tax return, even if you're down overall for the year. The IRS already has copies of those forms, so they know about every jackpot you hit. Your win/loss statement showing you're down $3,800 doesn't change the fact that you still have taxable income from those W-2Gs. The good news is you can potentially deduct your gambling losses, but only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A, and only up to the amount of your gambling winnings. So if your W-2Gs total $2,000 and you lost $3,800 overall, you can deduct up to $2,000 in losses - but only if itemizing makes sense for your overall tax situation. This is where it gets tricky for casual gamblers. If your total itemized deductions (including gambling losses, mortgage interest, charitable donations, etc.) don't exceed the standard deduction, you're better off taking the standard deduction. But that means you pay tax on your gambling winnings with no offset for losses. My advice: Add up all your potential itemized deductions first to see if it's worth it, and definitely start keeping detailed session logs going forward. The win/loss statement helps, but the IRS wants to see your own contemporaneous records of each gambling session.

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Lilah Brooks

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This is such a clear explanation of how the gambling tax system actually works! I had no idea that W-2Gs create taxable income regardless of your overall losses. The way you broke down the itemized vs standard deduction decision is really helpful. I'm curious about something - you mentioned keeping detailed session logs, but what happens if you've already been gambling this year without keeping proper records? Is it too late to start now, or can you reconstruct some of the information from bank statements and the casino win/loss statement to create a reasonable log for this tax year? Also, when you calculate whether itemizing makes sense, do you include the full amount of gambling losses up to your winnings, or do you need to factor in any limitations? I want to make sure I'm doing the math correctly when comparing to the standard deduction.

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This is an incredibly useful guide! As someone who's relatively new to dealing with IRS issues, I really appreciate having these step-by-step navigation instructions laid out so clearly. I've been putting off calling about a question regarding my tax withholdings because the thought of getting lost in their phone system was so intimidating. One quick question - for the main customer service line, after you enter your SSN, does the system typically ask for any additional verification information like your filing status or AGI from your last return? I want to make sure I have all my documents ready before I call. Also, does anyone know if there are particular days of the week that tend to have shorter wait times, or is it pretty much always going to be a long hold regardless of when you call during tax season?

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Carmen Ortiz

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Great questions! From my experience calling the IRS, after entering your SSN they usually ask for your filing status (single, married filing jointly, etc.) and sometimes your AGI from your most recent return for verification. I'd definitely have your last tax return handy just in case. As for timing, I've found Tuesday through Thursday mornings (especially around 7:15-7:30 AM) tend to have slightly shorter wait times than Mondays or Fridays. Tax season is brutal regardless, but mid-week seems to be your best bet. Also, avoid calling right after major tax deadlines when everyone who missed the deadline is trying to call at once!

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Darren Brooks

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This is exactly what I needed! I've been struggling to reach the IRS about my 2023 tax return that shows a processing delay. The step-by-step navigation for the main customer service line is incredibly helpful - I've been making the mistake of not knowing which prompts to select and ending up in the wrong department. One thing I'd add is to have your Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) ready if you don't have an SSN, as they'll accept that for verification too. Also, for anyone dealing with tax transcript requests, you can sometimes get faster service by calling 800-908-9946 directly rather than going through the main line. The automated system there can often provide transcript information without needing to speak to a representative, which saves time during peak season. Thanks for compiling this resource - it's going to save me so much frustration!

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Thanks for the additional tips about ITIN and the transcript line! I'm pretty new to all this tax stuff and didn't realize there were so many different numbers for specific issues. The transcript request line sounds really useful - I've been trying to get a copy of my 2022 transcript for weeks and keep getting transferred around when I call the main number. Quick question: when you call 800-908-9946, do you need to have specific information ready beyond just your SSN/ITIN, like previous addresses or anything like that? I want to make sure I'm fully prepared before calling so I don't waste time scrambling for documents. Also, does anyone know if that automated transcript system works 24/7 or does it have the same limited hours as the customer service lines?

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