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One other thing to consider: if your S corp is doing really well and has accumulated earnings from previous years, you might want to talk to your accountant about a "dividend" versus a regular distribution. These are treated differently for basis calculations. Also, make sure you're taking distributions AFTER paying yourself that reasonable salary. The IRS looks closely at S corps that take large distributions without adequate salary payments. The rule of thumb I've been told is that your salary should be at least 40-50% of what you take out of the business total.
Great question! I went through this same confusion when I started taking distributions from my S corp last year. The actual transfer is indeed as simple as moving money between accounts, but I learned there are a few key things to keep in mind: 1. **Timing matters** - Make sure you're current on your reasonable salary payments first. I made the mistake of taking a large distribution early in the year before I'd paid myself enough salary, and my accountant had to help me correct it. 2. **Keep detailed records** - I created a simple spreadsheet tracking each distribution with the date, amount, and purpose. This has been invaluable for tax prep and basis calculations. 3. **Don't forget about estimated taxes** - Unlike salary where taxes are withheld, you'll need to account for the tax impact of distributions when making quarterly estimated payments. 4. **Consider cash flow** - I learned to leave a buffer in the business account for unexpected expenses rather than taking out every dollar of profit. The mechanical part is easy, but the tax and record-keeping aspects require some attention. Once you get into a routine, it becomes second nature!
I had this exact situation with a $15k bonus I had to repay. One important tip: get WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION from your former employer confirming the repayment amount and date. I had a nightmare scenario where the IRS questioned my claim because I didn't have proper documentation. Just an email confirmation from HR or a receipt would have saved me months of stress. Also, depending on how much you paid back, Section 1341 can be really beneficial, but I found most tax software doesn't handle it well. Worth consulting a tax pro if the amount is significant.
This is such a frustrating situation, but the good news is you absolutely can recover those taxes! Since you had to repay more than $3,000 in a different tax year, you qualify for Section 1341 "claim of right" treatment, which is specifically designed for situations like yours. You'll have two options when filing your 2024 return: take an itemized deduction for the $9,500 repayment, or calculate a tax credit based on the extra taxes you paid in 2023. The credit option is usually more beneficial because it directly reduces your tax liability rather than just reducing taxable income. To calculate this, you'll need to figure out what your 2023 taxes would have been without the bonus income, then compare that to what you actually paid. The difference becomes your credit. Make sure to keep all documentation from your former employer showing the repayment amount and date - this is crucial if you ever get questioned about it. One thing to watch out for: some employers will only issue a corrected W-2 if the repayment happens in the same tax year. Since yours crossed years, you'll likely need to handle this through the Section 1341 process rather than getting a corrected W-2. Don't forget about state taxes too - you may need to handle those separately depending on your state's rules.
Make sure to double check your state tax return too! I had the exact same issue with inherited stocks last year. Got my federal return sorted out with the lower capital gains rate, but completely missed that my state was still taxing the gains as regular income. Most states follow federal rules for capital gains, but some have their own calculations.
Great point about state taxes. Some states like California don't give preferential treatment to capital gains and tax them as ordinary income regardless of how they're treated federally. Worth checking your specific state's rules.
Just want to add one more thing that might help others dealing with inherited investments - make sure you understand the "stepped-up basis" rules too. When you inherit stocks, the cost basis is "stepped up" to the fair market value on the date of death, which means you only pay capital gains tax on appreciation that happens after you inherited them. This is different from if someone had gifted you the stocks while alive (where you'd use their original cost basis). The K1 you received should already reflect this stepped-up basis, but it's worth understanding so you can verify the numbers look correct. Also, if the estate held the stocks for more than a year before distributing them to you, they automatically qualify for long-term capital gains treatment regardless of how long you personally held them. This is another inheritance tax benefit that many people don't realize exists.
Just a heads up for anyone preparing 2022 returns with NOLs carried forward from 2018-2020 - remember those aren't subject to the 80% limitation due to the CARES Act provisions. Only NOLs from 2021 forward have the 80% limitation. I've seen several colleagues mistakenly apply the 80% limitation to all NOLs.
Thanks for that critical reminder! You're absolutely right. I should have specified in my original post that I'm dealing specifically with 2021-generated NOLs carried forward to 2022. The pre-2021 NOLs from CARES Act years do indeed get more favorable treatment without the 80% limitation. This is partly why this client's situation is so complex - they have some NOLs from different years with different rules. Definitely something everyone needs to keep straight!
This is exactly the kind of complex scenario that highlights why NOL calculations can be so tricky! I've dealt with similar situations and want to add a few practical tips that have helped me: First, when you're doing the iterative calculations that others mentioned, I found it helpful to set up a simple Excel worksheet with columns for: Iteration #, AGI before NOL, Social Security taxable amount, Taxable income before NOL, 80% limitation amount, and Final taxable income after NOL. This makes it easy to see the convergence pattern and provides documentation for your files. Second, I've noticed that the circular calculation usually stabilizes within 3-4 iterations, but occasionally with very specific income ranges near the Social Security benefit thresholds, it can take 5-6 iterations. Don't panic if the first few rounds seem off - just keep going until the numbers stop changing. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is to double-check your state return if applicable. Some states don't conform to the federal 80% limitation or have their own NOL rules that could create additional complications. California, for example, has suspended NOL deductions entirely for certain tax years. Great discussion everyone - this is exactly the kind of real-world problem-solving that makes this community so valuable!
Margot Quinn
Quick question - I have a settlement coming up for a car accident. I'm getting about $31k for my injuries and the insurance is paying my lawyer directly (about $12k). My lawyer said I won't owe taxes, but the insurance company mentioned something about sending a 1099. Should I be worried?
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Evelyn Kim
ā¢You probably won't need to worry. Personal injury settlements for physical injuries are non-taxable. Sometimes insurance companies issue 1099s erroneously in these situations. If you get one, your tax preparer can help you explain on your return why that amount isn't taxable income. Just make sure to keep all your settlement documents showing it was for physical injuries.
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Sergio Neal
Based on what you've described, you're in a good position tax-wise. Since your settlement is specifically for physical injuries and the attorney fees are being paid separately and directly to your lawyer (not through you), you likely won't owe taxes on either portion. The key factors working in your favor are: 1) Physical injury settlements are generally tax-free under IRC Section 104(a)(2), and 2) Attorney fees paid directly by the defendant to your attorney aren't considered income to you. However, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of everything - the settlement agreement showing the separate payment structure, any documentation showing the attorney fees went directly to your lawyer's firm, and confirmation that this was purely for physical injuries with no punitive damages or other taxable components. If you want absolute certainty, consider having a tax professional review your specific settlement documents before filing. Every case has unique details that could affect the tax treatment.
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