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IRS Account Shows $0.00 Balance for 2023-2024 Tax Years - Changed Suddenly, What Does This Mean for My Refund?

My IRS account balance just updated and now shows $0.00 for both 2023 and 2024 tax years. When I check my Account Balance page, it displays "Total Amount Owed: $0.00" for both years in the Details By Year section. This literally happened within a few hours. I'm looking at my account right now at 12:37, and the balance shows absolutely nothing owed. I'm staring at my IRS Account Balance page which shows: Account Balance Total Amount Owed $0.00 The information provided is based on our current data. The numbers here may not reflect: - Recently filed or processing returns - Pending payments or adjustments - Information on your business account - Installment agreement fees Under the "Details By Year" section, it clearly shows: Tax Year: 2024 You Owe: $0.00 Tax Year: 2023 You Owe: $0.00 There's also a "Make a payment" option and "Frequently Asked Questions About Balances" link visible on the page, but that seems irrelevant since I don't owe anything. Just a few hours ago, this information was completely different. I'm confused about what this sudden change means - does a zero balance indicate my refund is processing? Does it mean my return was accepted and I'll be getting my refund soon? Or could it just be a system update that doesn't actually mean anything? I've been anxiously checking my account multiple times daily, and seeing this sudden change to $0.00 across both tax years has me both hopeful and confused. Does anyone know if this typically happens right before a refund is issued? The timing seems significant since it changed so abruptly.

This is exactly what you want to see! The sudden change to $0.00 across both tax years is a really positive sign - it typically means the IRS has finished processing your return and cleared any outstanding balances from your account. I went through something similar last tax season where my balance showed amounts owed one morning, then by afternoon it had dropped to zero. My refund was deposited exactly 4 days later. The fact that yours changed so quickly (within hours) suggests active processing rather than your return just sitting in queue. Your next step is to check your account transcript for transaction code 846 - that's the definitive "refund issued" code that will show the actual date your refund is scheduled to be sent. Most people see this appear within 24-48 hours after the balance goes to zero. The IRS disclaimer about recently filed returns and pending adjustments is standard language, but when you see such a dramatic change like this across multiple years, it's usually legitimate movement in your case. Keep checking both your transcript and bank account over the next few days. Based on the timing and pattern you're describing, you should see your refund very soon. You're definitely in the home stretch now!

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Gianna Scott

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This is such a relief to read! I've been so anxious about this whole process and seeing everyone's experiences with the same pattern gives me hope. 4 days is totally manageable - I was worried it might take weeks longer. I'll definitely check my transcript tomorrow for that 846 code. Thanks for explaining what the IRS disclaimer means too, I wasn't sure if that was something to worry about. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience! šŸ™

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Jayden Hill

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This is absolutely excellent news! That sudden change to $0.00 across both tax years is one of the strongest indicators that your refund is imminent. I've been through this exact scenario and it's such a relief when you finally see those zeros. The timing you mentioned - changing within just a few hours and checking at 12:37 - is actually really significant. The IRS typically makes these balance updates during active processing periods, not as routine maintenance. This suggests your return moved through their final review stages and got approved. What you're seeing is essentially the IRS clearing your account slate before issuing your refund. The fact that both 2023 and 2024 show $0.00 means they've reconciled everything and you're good to go. Your next milestone will be checking your account transcript tomorrow morning (around 6-7am is when they usually post overnight updates) for transaction code 846 with a deposit date. Once you see that code, you'll have your official refund timeline. Based on typical patterns I've observed here, you're looking at roughly 3-6 business days from when the balance went to zero to when you'll see the deposit in your account. The anxiety of constant checking will be over very soon! Definitely set up account alerts with your bank if you haven't already - you don't want to miss that deposit notification! šŸŽ‰

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This is so encouraging to hear from someone who's been through the exact same thing! The part about the timing being significant really makes sense - I was wondering if it was just a random system update, but hearing that it indicates active processing makes me feel so much better. I'm definitely going to check my transcript first thing tomorrow morning for that 846 code. Setting up bank alerts is a great idea too - I don't want to miss it when it finally hits! Thanks for the detailed explanation and timeline, this community has been such a lifesaver during this stressful waiting period! šŸ™

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One thing to consider is audit support! I used Free Tax USA last year and got a letter from the IRS questioning some of my deductions. Free Tax USA's help section had exactly what I needed to respond correctly, but they don't provide direct representation if you get audited unless you pay extra for their "Audit Defense" add-on when you file. Not sure about Tax Slayer's audit support, but worth looking into if that's a concern for you!

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I can answer about Tax Slayer - their basic package doesn't include audit support either. You have to upgrade to their Premium or Self-Employed tiers to get that (~$45-70 range). Honestly though, for simple returns like what OP described, the chance of a serious audit is pretty low.

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I switched from TurboTax to Free Tax USA two years ago and haven't looked back! For your situation (W2, mortgage interest, student loan interest), Free Tax USA will handle everything perfectly. The interface is clean and straightforward - maybe not as hand-holdy as TurboTax, but honestly that's a good thing because you can see exactly what's happening with your return. One tip: make sure to take advantage of their free review feature before filing. It caught a small error I made entering my mortgage interest that could have delayed my refund. The state return fee ($14.99 in most states) is totally worth it compared to what you'd pay elsewhere. I've recommended it to several friends and family members, and everyone has been happy with the switch. The money you save can go toward something much more enjoyable than tax software!

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That's really helpful to hear from someone who made the same switch! How was the transition in terms of importing last year's data? I'm worried about having to re-enter everything from scratch since I used TurboTax last year. Does Free Tax USA make it easy to pull in prior year info or do you basically start fresh?

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Amina Diop

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As someone who's also new to the U.S. tax system, I really feel your frustration! Coming from a country where tax processing was more straightforward and predictable, the IRS system has been quite an adjustment for me too. Based on all the helpful responses here, it's clear that Tuesday night into Wednesday morning (3-6am Eastern) is your most reliable window for transcript updates. I love how @Benjamin Carter actually tracked the data - 72% on Tuesday nights is pretty convincing evidence! What I've learned from this community is to stop the random checking (which I was definitely guilty of) and stick to a schedule. I'm going to adopt the approach several people mentioned: check Wednesday mornings around 7-8am, then Saturday mornings as a backup if needed. The batch processing concept was completely foreign to me at first - in my previous country, updates happened much more quickly. But understanding that the IRS runs on these weekly cycles rather than real-time processing has helped me adjust my expectations and reduce stress. Don't worry about that 4am checking session last year - sounds like we've all been there! The transcript will update when it updates, and checking at reasonable hours when you're actually awake to interpret the information makes much more sense. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's so helpful to know others have navigated this same learning curve!

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Lucas Adams

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Thank you for sharing this perspective! As another newcomer to the U.S. tax system, it's really comforting to know I'm not alone in finding this whole process confusing at first. The batch processing concept has been the biggest adjustment for me too - coming from a system where things updated much more frequently, having to wait for these specific weekly windows felt so strange initially. I really appreciate everyone in this thread taking the time to explain the Tuesday night/Wednesday morning pattern (3-6am Eastern) so clearly. The data @Benjamin Carter shared about 72% of updates happening during this timeframe is exactly the kind of concrete information that helps me feel more confident about when to check. I m'definitely going to stop my random checking habit and switch to the Wednesday morning/Saturday morning schedule that so many people have recommended. It s'such a relief to have a clear plan instead of constantly wondering if I should be refreshing the page!

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NebulaNova

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As someone who's also adjusting to the U.S. tax system from another country, I completely understand your confusion! The difference in predictability compared to other tax systems is really jarring at first. From all the excellent advice shared here, Tuesday night into Wednesday morning (3-6am Eastern) is definitely your most reliable window. The data @Benjamin Carter provided showing 72% of updates happen during this timeframe really solidifies what everyone has experienced. What's helped me most is switching from constant checking to a structured approach: I now check Wednesday mornings around 7am, and if nothing's updated, I check again Saturday morning. This has saved me so much stress compared to my first year when I was refreshing at random times throughout the week. The concept of weekly batch processing cycles was completely foreign to me coming from a system where tax updates happened much more immediately. But once you understand that the IRS operates on these set weekly schedules rather than real-time processing, it becomes much easier to work with their rhythm instead of fighting against it. Don't feel bad about staying up until 4am last year - we've all made that mistake! The key is learning the pattern so you can check efficiently without sacrificing sleep. Your transcript will be there at 7am if it updated overnight, and you'll actually be alert enough to understand what you're looking at.

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I'm confused about one thing. If you have foreign tax credit carryover from multiple years, how do you determine which year's credits get used first? Is it FIFO (first in, first out) or can you choose?

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Kylo Ren

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It's always FIFO (first in, first out). The IRS requires you to use the oldest credits first. This is actually beneficial since the credits expire after 10 years - using the oldest ones first ensures you don't lose credits due to expiration. Form 1116 Part III has a section for this calculation. You list the current year credits, then add carryovers from previous years (oldest first), and then apply them against your current year limitation. Any excess becomes your new carryover.

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Ava Thompson

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This is exactly the situation I found myself in last year! I had been working in Singapore from 2018-2020 and accumulated about $2,800 in unused foreign tax credits in the general category. When I returned to the US in 2021, I made the mistake of not filing Form 1116 for general income since I had no new foreign employment income that year. I discovered my error when preparing my 2022 taxes and panicked thinking I'd lost those credits permanently. After doing some research and consulting with a tax professional, I learned I could still recover them by filing an amended return (Form 1040X) for 2021. The key thing I learned is that you MUST file Form 1116 every single year if you have carryover credits, regardless of whether you have new foreign income in that category. Even if it means filing a form that shows zero current year income, it's the only way to preserve your carryover rights. I ended up manually adding the Form 1116 in my tax software by searching for it specifically and forcing it to stay even when the software wanted to remove it due to zero income. The amended return was approved without any issues, and I was able to use those credits against my 2022 and 2023 tax liability. Don't make the same mistake I did - always document those carryovers!

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StarSailor

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Thanks for sharing your experience with the amended return process! I'm curious - how long did it take for the IRS to process your Form 1040X when you filed it to recover those carryover credits? I'm in a similar situation and worried about timing, especially since I need to file my current year return soon. Did you have to wait for the amended return to be processed before you could use those credits on your next year's filing?

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Leila Haddad

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Has anyone had experience with hybrid policies? My financial advisor keeps pushing this combo life insurance/LTC policy that supposedly has tax advantages, but I'm having trouble finding clear info on how to report the premiums.

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Emma Johnson

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I have a hybrid policy. Only the portion that's specifically designated for LTC coverage can be counted as a medical expense. Your insurance company should provide a breakdown that shows what percentage of your premium is for LTC vs life insurance. In my case, about 65% of my premium qualified as an LTC expense.

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Great question about LTC premiums! Just to add to what others have shared - make sure you keep detailed records of your premium payments throughout the year. The IRS may want to see documentation that your policy is indeed qualified LTC insurance if you're audited. Also, don't forget that if either of you becomes self-employed in the future (even part-time consulting), the rules change significantly in your favor. Self-employed individuals can deduct LTC premiums as an above-the-line deduction (on Schedule 1) up to the age-based limits, which means you don't have to meet the 7.5% AGI threshold or itemize to get the benefit. One more tip: if you're planning any major medical expenses this year (dental work, surgery, etc.), it might push you over that 7.5% threshold where your LTC premiums would actually provide a tax benefit. Worth running the numbers to see if timing any elective procedures could help maximize your deductions.

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This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm new to LTC insurance and hadn't thought about the documentation aspect. Quick question - when you mention "above-the-line deduction" for self-employed individuals, does that apply even if the self-employment income is relatively small? Like if I do some freelance work on the side that only brings in a few thousand dollars a year, would I still qualify for that better treatment of the LTC premiums? Also, your point about timing medical expenses is smart. We've been putting off some dental work, so maybe we should look at our total medical expenses for the year and see if it makes sense to bunch them together.

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